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K Major 06-27-2021 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922438)

Brees had been inconsistent at that point, even being benched for poor play; San Diego had a prototype in mind at QB, and Brees at 6' 0" wasn't it...[/B]
Never knew that.

Getting benched may have worked in his favor. Made him work smarter, faster, stronger. Not to mention a HC that believed in his ability. DB is just built different.

Now he's headed to Canton :bng:.

AsylumGuido 06-27-2021 12:46 PM
Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 922441)
Never knew that.

Getting benched may have worked in his favor. Made him work smarter, faster, stronger. Not to mention a HC that believed in his ability. DB is just built different.

Now he's headed to Canton :bng:.
Yup. In his third season, 2003. He started the first eight games at 1-7 and was benched for Doug Flutie. He came back in week 15 (game 14) and started every game other than the last game of the 2004 season when they had already clinched for the rest of his time there.

gosaints1 06-27-2021 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 922441)
Never knew that.

Getting benched may have worked in his favor. Made him work smarter, faster, stronger. Not to mention a HC that believed in his ability. DB is just built different.

Now he's headed to Canton :bng:.
Headed to Canton…, built on a Black & Gold Legacy. Here’s my McDonald’s quote for the world: “I’m loving it”. The fact that I can needle Nick Saban about his failed NFL experiment, regardless of whether picking DB#9 up was his call or not, only makes me smile more. Seriously…, loving it.

Good day for the B&G when the first ballot HOF’er is enshrined!

Thirty3 06-27-2021 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 922423)
Not as smart? The Wonderlic measures a person's ability to process information quickly. Winston scored a 27 on the test. Drew Brees and Peyton Manning both scored 28's.

Everything I've ever heard about Winston is how intelligent he is.

"Florida State coach Jimbo Fisher is not surprised by reports that quarterback Jameis Winston impressed NFL teams with the intelligence he demonstrated in interviews at the Combine.

Fisher, who has been a quarterbacks coach, offensive coordinator or head coach for 27 years, said he has never coached a player with the level of football intelligence that Winston possesses.

“Jameis, in football intellect, intelligence level, is as smart as anybody I’ve ever been around,” Fisher said on NFL Network. “You can do so many different things with him and he grasps it. He just doesn’t memorize plays, he understands the concepts of how to attack the coverage, how a play works, where his one-on-one matchups are. He just has a tremendous football intellect that way.”"
TESTS??? The REAL tests are the games. 5 years NFL experience. Looking at the resume' I'd give the new guy (Hill) a shot instead of a failed Winston.

Thirty3 06-27-2021 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 922423)
Not as smart? The Wonderlic measures a person's ability to process information quickly. Winston scored a 27 on the test. Drew Brees and Peyton Manning both scored 28's.

Everything I've ever heard about Winston is how intelligent he is.

"Florida State coach Jimbo Fisher is not surprised by reports that quarterback Jameis Winston impressed NFL teams with the intelligence he demonstrated in interviews at the Combine.

Fisher, who has been a quarterbacks coach, offensive coordinator or head coach for 27 years, said he has never coached a player with the level of football intelligence that Winston possesses.

“Jameis, in football intellect, intelligence level, is as smart as anybody I’ve ever been around,” Fisher said on NFL Network. “You can do so many different things with him and he grasps it. He just doesn’t memorize plays, he understands the concepts of how to attack the coverage, how a play works, where his one-on-one matchups are. He just has a tremendous football intellect that way.”"
And yet you said he didn't know the playbook by week 11. ho-hum

iceshack149 06-27-2021 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 922437)
Actually, the Chargers did pass on Philip Rivers in the 2004 draft. They selected Eli Manning, instead.

https://cdnph.upi.com/svc/sv/upi/884...-NFL-Draft.jpg
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922438)
Mannings were up front they didn't want Eli playing in San Diego because of the way that franchise was run - Lessons from Archie Manning's career ruined by John Mecom...

San Diego knew this and were looking at Rivers also; still selected Manning knowing they'd get Rivers and picks to boot - Saving face, Salvaging a Disadvantaged Hand...

Brees had been inconsistent at that point, even being benched for poor play; San Diego had a prototype in mind at QB, and Brees at 6' 0" wasn't it...
Exactly.

AsylumGuido 06-27-2021 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Thirty3 (Post 922453)
And yet you said he didn't know the playbook by week 11. ho-hum
No. I said Hill had two more years of experience with the playbook with Winston having no off-season and limited COVID practices in season at all. Keep trying. You are failing left and right.

AsylumGuido 06-27-2021 05:35 PM
Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints
 
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Originally Posted by Thirty3 (Post 922452)
TESTS??? The REAL tests are the games. 5 years NFL experience. Looking at the resume' I'd give the new guy (Hill) a shot instead of a failed Winston.
Failed? You seriously do not know football. :rolleyes:

And thank God you don't have any say.

jeanpierre 06-27-2021 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 922440)
Mismanagement and an inconsistent QB that hadn't reached his potential. Sounds a lot like Tampa Bay and Winston, doesn't it?
Mismanagement? #WTF?!?

Are you that detached from reality that you do not realize Tampa Bay just jettisoned Jameis Winston, signed Tom Brady, and won a Super Bowl?

jnormand 06-27-2021 07:35 PM
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You guys are arguing with someone that refuses to see anyone's logic except his own. Which most of the time is based on popular opinion or what makes him look smart. Lol


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