Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints
 

Yes, mismanagement. They had just come off of an eleven year stretch with NINE losing seasons! They were going through staff changes left and right. I don't blame Winston for wanting to get out of there.

That IS reality, JP.

Yes, they signed Brady, but they also signed a ton of other free agents. They went all in. Winston wasn't trash. He just wasn't as good as his replacement. Who is, right?

Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints
 

To be fair there was much more at play than simply swapping QBs

Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints
 

Reality is escaping JP in this case.

;)

Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints
 

I count on JP's opinion to challenge my own, sometimes "rosy view" of the team. He's changed my mind on more than one occasion.

Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints
 

Agreed…, I understand his logic most of the time, even wrt this topic, although I may not agree with those beliefs, they aren’t poorly formed arguments, imvho.

Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints
 

All we can do is wait and see what Payton can do with whoever wins the job.

Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints
 

And complain about it before hand! 🤪

Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints
 

Winston may turn out great but we have problems that go way beyond Qb. Even if Winston is spectacular it may not be enough to get us into the playoffs.
Look at all those 7-9 seasons we had when Drew was still in his prime.
I think that’s about where we are.

Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints
 

The defense was horrible in those years. The current defensive squad is light years better than those teams. Both Atlanta and Carolina were also much better than they are today.

Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints
 

Winston needs tight reigns and a game plan from Payton's son's play book. I believe Payton can get him ready if he starts simple and adds the wrinkles. Keep it simple stupid. KISS.:dunce: