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AsylumGuido 06-28-2021 03:52 PM

Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922462)
Mismanagement? #WTF?!?

Are you that detached from reality that you do not realize Tampa Bay just jettisoned Jameis Winston, signed Tom Brady, and won a Super Bowl?

Yes, mismanagement. They had just come off of an eleven year stretch with NINE losing seasons! They were going through staff changes left and right. I don't blame Winston for wanting to get out of there.

That IS reality, JP.

Yes, they signed Brady, but they also signed a ton of other free agents. They went all in. Winston wasn't trash. He just wasn't as good as his replacement. Who is, right?

saintsfan1976 06-28-2021 04:02 PM

Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922462)
Mismanagement? #WTF?!?

Are you that detached from reality that you do not realize Tampa Bay just jettisoned Jameis Winston, signed Tom Brady, and won a Super Bowl?

To be fair there was much more at play than simply swapping QBs

AsylumGuido 06-28-2021 06:07 PM

Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 922493)
To be fair there was much more at play than simply swapping QBs

Reality is escaping JP in this case.

;)

saintsfan1976 06-29-2021 05:55 AM

Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 922498)
Reality is escaping JP in this case.

;)

I count on JP's opinion to challenge my own, sometimes "rosy view" of the team. He's changed my mind on more than one occasion.

gosaints1 06-29-2021 06:48 AM

Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 922509)
I count on JP's opinion to challenge my own, sometimes "rosy view" of the team. He's changed my mind on more than one occasion.

Agreed…, I understand his logic most of the time, even wrt this topic, although I may not agree with those beliefs, they aren’t poorly formed arguments, imvho.

Rugby Saint II 06-29-2021 11:24 AM

Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints
 
All we can do is wait and see what Payton can do with whoever wins the job.

Boston Saint 06-29-2021 11:30 AM

Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 922522)
All we can do is wait and see what Payton can do with whoever wins the job.

And complain about it before hand! 🤪

The Dude 06-29-2021 12:41 PM

Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints
 
Winston may turn out great but we have problems that go way beyond Qb. Even if Winston is spectacular it may not be enough to get us into the playoffs.
Look at all those 7-9 seasons we had when Drew was still in his prime.
I think that’s about where we are.

AsylumGuido 06-29-2021 12:55 PM

Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 922528)
Winston may turn out great but we have problems that go way beyond Qb. Even if Winston is spectacular it may not be enough to get us into the playoffs.
Look at all those 7-9 seasons we had when Drew was still in his prime.
I think that’s about where we are.

The defense was horrible in those years. The current defensive squad is light years better than those teams. Both Atlanta and Carolina were also much better than they are today.

Rugby Saint II 06-29-2021 01:22 PM

Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints
 
Winston needs tight reigns and a game plan from Payton's son's play book. I believe Payton can get him ready if he starts simple and adds the wrinkles. Keep it simple stupid. KISS.:dunce:


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