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halloween 65 06-29-2021 01:27 PM

Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints
 
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Originally Posted by gosaints1 (Post 922513)
Agreed…, I understand his logic most of the time, even wrt this topic, although I may not agree with those beliefs, they aren’t poorly formed arguments, imvho.

JP smart. We definitely agree with the eyeball test, running the ball and D.

AsylumGuido 06-29-2021 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 922534)
Winston needs tight reigns and a game plan from Payton's son's play book. I believe Payton can get him ready if he starts simple and adds the wrinkles. Keep it simple stupid. KISS.:dunce:

Why keep it simple? Winston has a reputation for being extremely intelligent when it comes to digesting football information. There's every reason to believe that by now he should be able to handle anything Payton throws at him. And he definitely can't be as slow as Hill at making reads once the ball is snapped.

jeanpierre 06-29-2021 02:27 PM

Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 922498)
Reality is escaping JP in this case.

;)

You're the last user on this sight that should comment on #reality...

jeanpierre 06-29-2021 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 922493)
To be fair there was much more at play than simply swapping QBs

Then ask that anyone name the other positions that were swapped that had as much an impact...

Other key moves, pieces had been made or were already in place...

Boston Saint 06-29-2021 02:38 PM

Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922539)
Then ask that anyone name the other positions that were swapped that had as much an impact...

Other key moves, pieces had been made or were already in place...

I’ll give you another swap JP...the ref treatment. Tampa went from last in the league in penalties per game in 2019 to 4th fewest in 2020. Refs let them play more aggressively on both sides of the ball with Brady.

AsylumGuido 06-29-2021 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922539)
Then ask that anyone name the other positions that were swapped that had as much an impact...

Other key moves, pieces had been made or were already in place...

If Brady was the only addition they would not have won it all. Gronkowski, Antonio Brown, and Leonard Fournette all played a big role especially in the playoff run, and rookies Tristan Werfs (RT) and Antoine Winfield, Jr. were additions in the 2020 that played major roles, as well.

AsylumGuido 06-29-2021 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922538)
You're the last user on this sight that should comment on #reality...

I'm more seated in reality than you will ever realize.

jeanpierre 06-30-2021 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 922546)
I'm more seated in reality than you will ever realize.

No, you really are detached because of your #fanatacism...

Several here have clearly demonstrated you were wrong and you're refusal to admit same is pathological...

jeanpierre 06-30-2021 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 922542)
I’ll give you another swap JP...the ref treatment. Tampa went from last in the league in penalties per game in 2019 to 4th fewest in 2020. Refs let them play more aggressively on both sides of the ball with Brady.

Brady treatment? He's been on the wrong side of the officials and league with a few scandals, so that'd be a hard sell...

K Major 06-30-2021 10:56 AM

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