Observation From the Saints' Loss to the Giants

Lord_Saint83 · 10-04-2021, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Worth mentioning Pete Werner.

Had a total of 10 tackles (6 solo/4 assisted) & a tfl vs Giants.

Confidence building.

I like what I see from him. Looks like another solid pick

The Dude · 10-04-2021, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by darksoul35

I cant believe people are putting this on Winston. His first few passes where in the dirt but I think thats all nerves. He played well after that. I think we need to let him go a little more to at least keep everyone out of the box.

He had a great game all things considered. People need to lay off Winston until Thomas gets back. It’s not like he has a ton of options out there.

Thirty3 · 10-04-2021, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Keep dreaming. LOL!

Once again, Hill faced the worst defense in the NFL in the Atlanta Falcons TWICE when we had a great defense! Then he faced a team without a QB (Denver Broncos), and he also faced the last place finishing team (Eagles) in the worst division in the NFL whose champion had a losing record and lost.

Just being real.

What? Vs a bummed out, no preseason games QB drama infused Green Bay, Carolina, Patriots and Giants ??? Of the four only Carolina was a serious contender.

jeanpierre · 10-04-2021, 10:43 PM

RailBoss · 10-04-2021, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

It's as if Payton thinks Winston is so fragile, that if he opens the offense up and he throws a few picks, his confidence will crumble. If that's the case, then Winston shouldn't be starting, but until proven otherwise, you have to take the Training Wheels off Winston and let him play.

This game manager scenario is putting too much pressure on Kamara and a young defense.

Open the freaking playbook up and see if Winston can actually succeed.

Kind of a shame Joe Lombardi isn't still here, he would have helped Jameis and Company tremendously.

jeanpierre · 10-04-2021, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by RailBoss

Kind of a shame Joe Lombardi isn't still here, he would have helped Jameis and Company tremendously.

With regards to play-calling? It's Sean's world and we're all here to watch...

RailBoss · 10-05-2021, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

With regards to play-calling? It's Sean's world and we're all here to watch...

You can say that again.. and again and again...

AsylumGuido · 10-05-2021, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by Thirty3

What? Vs a bummed out, no preseason games QB drama infused Green Bay, Carolina, Patriots and Giants ??? Of the four only Carolina was a serious contender.

All four of them are better than what Hill faced last year by a large margin. Not even close. Your hatred of Winston is blinding you to that fact. And Hill is NOT a QB. At least not at this level. And I love him as a Saint and a player. I am just honest in my assessment.

Boston Saint · 10-05-2021, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

All four of them are better than what Hill faced last year by a large margin. Not even close. Your hatred of Winston is blinding you to that fact. And Hill is NOT a QB. At least not at this level. And I love him as a Saint and a player. I am just honest in my assessment.

IMO Hill’s first 4 opponents were “easier” than Winston’s, but there are many variables involved. I will, however, say that If you had told fans before the season started that he would have 8 TDs and 2 Ints with a 64 completion% and no fumbles lost with no Michael Thomas that 8 of every 10 fans would have taken that in a heartbeat. If you can’t win with that type of QB performance, then you have bigger problems.

mapcow · 10-05-2021, 09:52 AM

get rid of that terrible kicker....whatever his name is. Put him and thomas on the same bus. Later

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Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Observation From the Saints' Loss to the Giants Originally Posted by K Major Worth mentioning Pete Werner. Had a total of 10 tackles (6 solo/4 assisted) & a tfl vs Giants. Confidence building. I like what I see from him. Looks like another solid pick

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Observation From the Saints' Loss to the Giants Originally Posted by darksoul35 I cant believe people are putting this on Winston. His first few passes where in the dirt but I think thats all nerves. He played well after that. I think we need to let him go a little more to at least keep everyone out of the box. He had a great game all things considered. People need to lay off Winston until Thomas gets back. It’s not like he has a ton of options out there. Rugby Saint II, darksoul35 and Boston Saint like this.
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Thirty3 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 1,255	Re: Observation From the Saints' Loss to the Giants Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Keep dreaming. LOL! Once again, Hill faced the worst defense in the NFL in the Atlanta Falcons TWICE when we had a great defense! Then he faced a team without a QB (Denver Broncos), and he also faced the last place finishing team (Eagles) in the worst division in the NFL whose champion had a losing record and lost. Just being real. What? Vs a bummed out, no preseason games QB drama infused Green Bay, Carolina, Patriots and Giants ??? Of the four only Carolina was a serious contender. jnormand likes this.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Observation From the Saints' Loss to the Giants Originally Posted by Thirty3 What? Vs a bummed out, no preseason games QB drama infused Green Bay, Carolina, Patriots and Giants ??? Of the four only Carolina was a serious contender. All four of them are better than what Hill faced last year by a large margin. Not even close. Your hatred of Winston is blinding you to that fact. And Hill is NOT a QB. At least not at this level. And I love him as a Saint and a player. I am just honest in my assessment. cmike and Boston Saint like this.

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Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Observation From the Saints' Loss to the Giants Originally Posted by AsylumGuido All four of them are better than what Hill faced last year by a large margin. Not even close. Your hatred of Winston is blinding you to that fact. And Hill is NOT a QB. At least not at this level. And I love him as a Saint and a player. I am just honest in my assessment. IMO Hill’s first 4 opponents were “easier” than Winston’s, but there are many variables involved. I will, however, say that If you had told fans before the season started that he would have 8 TDs and 2 Ints with a 64 completion% and no fumbles lost with no Michael Thomas that 8 of every 10 fans would have taken that in a heartbeat. If you can’t win with that type of QB performance, then you have bigger problems. AsylumGuido and cmike like this.

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