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Boston Saint 10-04-2021 04:46 PM
Re: Observation From the Saints' Loss to the Giants
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 930541)
I think you are underestimating Tre'Quan Smith's absence. His return will kick things up a notch, as well. Thomas, Smith, Callaway, Harris, and Stills can be very formidable.

But agree completely on Taysom.
How were the seats for the first official game Guido ?

K Major 10-04-2021 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 930541)
I think you are underestimating Tre'Quan Smith's absence.
Not me. Good blocker, experienced in this offense however Smith hasn't contributed to this team in a while.

Thank goodness Stills is now on the roster.

dizzle88 10-04-2021 04:54 PM
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Taysom is a fantastic runner and can really set the tone with some hard hitting runs.

I think Payton needs to take a long look in the mirror and realise that Taysom is most valuable as a HB / TE hybrid player. Strong willing blocker, good speed and excellent power with decent hands.

As The Dude said, keep Taysom in as a starter on offense, just not as the QB. I think he would really be a good player if he focused on RB and TE, split a few carries with Kamara to give the D a power threat to have to deal with.

Paytons ego forces Hills arm into the game.

AsylumGuido 10-04-2021 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 930542)
How were the seats for the first official game Guido ?
Sweet! I didn't realize we had access to the Loge Club and had our own entrance into the Dome. Section 229 is the first three rows of the second level and have 60 total seats. They span from the goal line to the 10 yard line or so. I'll post pictures later. We split a prime rib sandwich that honestly had to have had a full pound of rare red beef on it with a mound of Zapp's chips from the club in the lounge area. They had a frickin' champagne bar, for christ's sake. I can get used to this. LOL!

Boston Saint 10-04-2021 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 930545)
Sweet! I didn't realize we had access to the Loge Club and had our own entrance into the Dome. Section 229 is the first three rows of the second level and have 60 total seats. They span from the goal line to the 10 yard line or so. I'll post pictures later. We split a prime rib sandwich that honestly had to have had a full pound of rare red beef on it with a mound of Zapp's chips from the club in the lounge area. They had a frickin' champagne bar, for christ's sake. I can get used to this. LOL!
Glad it worked out...course it would have been better to eat a W!!

AsylumGuido 10-04-2021 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 930546)
Glad it worked out...course it would have been better to eat a W!!
No crap. We had fun and will enjoy it going forward.

AsylumGuido 10-04-2021 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 930544)
Taysom is a fantastic runner and can really set the tone with some hard hitting runs.

I think Payton needs to take a long look in the mirror and realise that Taysom is most valuable as a HB / TE hybrid player. Strong willing blocker, good speed and excellent power with decent hands.

As The Dude said, keep Taysom in as a starter on offense, just not as the QB. I think he would really be a good player if he focused on RB and TE, split a few carries with Kamara to give the D a power threat to have to deal with.

Paytons ego forces Hills arm into the game.
Yup. Couldn't agree more.

AsylumGuido 10-04-2021 05:12 PM
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I'd post pictures from Facebook, but ... yeah, it's in crash zone. LOL

neugey 10-04-2021 05:13 PM
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Saints wore all black yesterday
Falcons wore all black yesterday

Gold pants solve this problem.

rezburna 10-04-2021 05:16 PM
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I like the idea of Taysom being in a HB/FB role and running the QB Power in near the goal line.

AsylumGuido 10-04-2021 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 930551)
I like the idea of Taysom being in a HB/FB role and running the QB Power in near the goal line.
That's his obvious role. Let him eat where the eaten is right.

The Dude 10-04-2021 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 930541)
I think you are underestimating Tre'Quan Smith's absence. His return will kick things up a notch, as well. Thomas, Smith, Callaway, Harris, and Stills can be very formidable.

But agree completely on Taysom.
I’m sure Smith will help for the game or two he plays before he’s hurt again. Maybe we get lucky and get to see him AND Thomas together for those two games.

Thirty3 10-04-2021 06:01 PM
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Compare Winston’s first 4 games and Hill’s first 4. First of all Hill won 3 to Winston’s 2. Second Hill completed 72% of passes to Winston’s 62%. It’s hard to believe there are guys on here ragging on Hills passing. When he gets his opportunity to start again there will be another thread about eating crow concerning opinions of Hill.

darksoul35 10-04-2021 06:13 PM
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sorry but Traught sucks balls

AsylumGuido 10-04-2021 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 930553)
I’m sure Smith will help for the game or two he plays before he’s hurt again. Maybe we get lucky and get to see him AND Thomas together for those two games.
Your positivity, or lack there of, is well documented. Maybe your negative aura is causing the injuries! No ... at least I hope it isn't. No way ... but, this is New Orleans and negative juju is a real thing.

AsylumGuido 10-04-2021 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by darksoul35 (Post 930555)
sorry but Trought sucks balls
Sure glad we have no player with that name. Whew!!

AsylumGuido 10-04-2021 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Thirty3 (Post 930554)
Compare Winston’s first 4 games and Hill’s first 4. First of all Hill won 3 to Winston’s 2. Second Hill completed 72% of passes to Winston’s 62%. It’s hard to believe there are guys on here ragging on Hills passing. When he gets his opportunity to start again there will be another thread about eating crow concerning opinions of Hill.
Keep dreaming. LOL!

Once again, Hill faced the worst defense in the NFL in the Atlanta Falcons TWICE when we had a great defense! Then he faced a team without a QB (Denver Broncos), and he also faced the last place finishing team (Eagles) in the worst division in the NFL whose champion had a losing record and lost.

Just being real.

darksoul35 10-04-2021 06:24 PM
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I cant believe people are putting this on Winston. His first few passes where in the dirt but I think thats all nerves. He played well after that. I think we need to let him go a little more to at least keep everyone out of the box.

darksoul35 10-04-2021 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 930557)
Sure glad we have no player with that name. Whew!!
Who the hell cares how his name is spelled he is horrible.

AsylumGuido 10-04-2021 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by darksoul35 (Post 930560)
Who the hell cares how his name is spelled he is horrible.
He is? How so. Give the details of your analysis for us. Looking forward to this. Thanks in advance!

SmashMouth 10-04-2021 06:31 PM
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Lord_Saint83 10-04-2021 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Thirty3 (Post 930554)
Compare Winston’s first 4 games and Hill’s first 4. First of all Hill won 3 to Winston’s 2. Second Hill completed 72% of passes to Winston’s 62%. It’s hard to believe there are guys on here ragging on Hills passing. When he gets his opportunity to start again there will be another thread about eating crow concerning opinions of Hill.



Look at the QB ratings Hill 98.8 Winston 106.2, TDS Hill 4 Winston 8, and my favorite turnovers fumbles Hill 7 lost 4 Winston 0, Ints Hill 2 Winston 2. Clear winner here, man and it ain’t Hill. And why not rag on his arm which also caused a turnover? Some of y’all have ragged on Jameis for far less.

rezburna 10-04-2021 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 930563)
Look at the QB ratings Hill 98.8 Winston 106.2, TDS Hill 4 Winston 8, and my favorite turnovers fumbles Hill 7 lost 4 Winston 0, Ints Hill 2 Winston 2. Clear winner here, man and it ain’t Hill. And why not rag on his arm which also caused a turnover? Some of y’all have ragged on Jameis for far less.
Preach. Did the same to Teddy 2 Gloves.

Lord_Saint83 10-04-2021 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 930565)
Preach. Did the same to Teddy 2 Gloves.


Yea, they called him Checkdown Teddy til he balled out against Tampa.

SmashMouth 10-04-2021 06:57 PM
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SmashMouth 10-04-2021 07:11 PM
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K Major 10-04-2021 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 930567)
The Jedi yo-yo stuff ain’t working coach.

WFT is a better ball club than the Giants.

Gotta do better.

SmashMouth 10-04-2021 07:38 PM
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K Major 10-04-2021 07:52 PM
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Worth mentioning Pete Werner.

Had a total of 10 tackles (6 solo/4 assisted) & a tfl vs Giants.

Confidence building.

cmike 10-04-2021 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 930551)
I like the idea of Taysom being in a HB/FB role and running the QB Power in near the goal line.
I hope Payton is reading your comment Rez. The game yesterday would resulted in a W if Hill played 90% of the snaps in that role. It’ll also limit the snaps Trautman gets.

Lord_Saint83 10-04-2021 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 930571)
Worth mentioning Pete Werner.

Had a total of 10 tackles (6 solo/4 assisted) & a tfl vs Giants.

Confidence building.



I like what I see from him. Looks like another solid pick

The Dude 10-04-2021 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by darksoul35 (Post 930559)
I cant believe people are putting this on Winston. His first few passes where in the dirt but I think thats all nerves. He played well after that. I think we need to let him go a little more to at least keep everyone out of the box.
He had a great game all things considered. People need to lay off Winston until Thomas gets back. It’s not like he has a ton of options out there.

Thirty3 10-04-2021 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 930558)
Keep dreaming. LOL!

Once again, Hill faced the worst defense in the NFL in the Atlanta Falcons TWICE when we had a great defense! Then he faced a team without a QB (Denver Broncos), and he also faced the last place finishing team (Eagles) in the worst division in the NFL whose champion had a losing record and lost.

Just being real.
What? Vs a bummed out, no preseason games QB drama infused Green Bay, Carolina, Patriots and Giants ??? Of the four only Carolina was a serious contender.

jeanpierre 10-04-2021 10:43 PM
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RailBoss 10-04-2021 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 930515)
It's as if Payton thinks Winston is so fragile, that if he opens the offense up and he throws a few picks, his confidence will crumble. If that's the case, then Winston shouldn't be starting, but until proven otherwise, you have to take the Training Wheels off Winston and let him play.

This game manager scenario is putting too much pressure on Kamara and a young defense.

Open the freaking playbook up and see if Winston can actually succeed.
Kind of a shame Joe Lombardi isn't still here, he would have helped Jameis and Company tremendously.

jeanpierre 10-04-2021 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 930584)
Kind of a shame Joe Lombardi isn't still here, he would have helped Jameis and Company tremendously.
With regards to play-calling? It's Sean's world and we're all here to watch...

RailBoss 10-05-2021 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 930586)
With regards to play-calling? It's Sean's world and we're all here to watch...
You can say that again.. and again and again...

AsylumGuido 10-05-2021 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Thirty3 (Post 930578)
What? Vs a bummed out, no preseason games QB drama infused Green Bay, Carolina, Patriots and Giants ??? Of the four only Carolina was a serious contender.
All four of them are better than what Hill faced last year by a large margin. Not even close. Your hatred of Winston is blinding you to that fact. And Hill is NOT a QB. At least not at this level. And I love him as a Saint and a player. I am just honest in my assessment.

Boston Saint 10-05-2021 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 930591)
All four of them are better than what Hill faced last year by a large margin. Not even close. Your hatred of Winston is blinding you to that fact. And Hill is NOT a QB. At least not at this level. And I love him as a Saint and a player. I am just honest in my assessment.
IMO Hill’s first 4 opponents were “easier” than Winston’s, but there are many variables involved. I will, however, say that If you had told fans before the season started that he would have 8 TDs and 2 Ints with a 64 completion% and no fumbles lost with no Michael Thomas that 8 of every 10 fans would have taken that in a heartbeat. If you can’t win with that type of QB performance, then you have bigger problems.

mapcow 10-05-2021 09:52 AM
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get rid of that terrible kicker....whatever his name is. Put him and thomas on the same bus. Later:doh:


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