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Boston Saint 10-05-2021 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 930593)
get rid of that terrible kicker....whatever his name is. Put him and thomas on the same bus. Later:doh:
How’s the cow map?

AsylumGuido 10-05-2021 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 930592)
IMO Hill’s first 4 opponents were “easier” than Winston’s, but there are many variables involved. I will, however, say that If you had told fans before the season started that he would have 8 TDs and 2 Ints with a 64 completion% and no fumbles lost with no Michael Thomas that 8 of every 10 fans would have taken that in a heartbeat. If you can’t win with that type of QB performance, then you have bigger problems.
Hill also had an intact defense that was capable of winning those games on their own last year.

jeanpierre 10-05-2021 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 930596)
Hill also had an intact defense that was capable of winning those games on their own last year.
What is an intact defense?

SmashMouth 10-05-2021 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 930598)
What is an intact defense?
in·tact
/inˈtakt/
Learn to pronounce
adjective
not damaged or impaired in any way; complete.
"the church was almost in ruins but its tower remained intact"

Depends I guess?!?

Boston Saint 10-05-2021 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 930599)
in·tact
/inˈtakt/
Learn to pronounce
adjective
not damaged or impaired in any way; complete.
"the church was almost in ruins but its tower remained intact"

Depends I guess?!?
Well, T-rex was doing well and Jenkins was a good CB2. David O was playing and Davenport was healthy for those rare games.

jeanpierre 10-05-2021 11:39 AM
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blackangold 10-05-2021 12:49 PM
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I still don't understand why we let Teddy walk. Teddy would have this team 4-0 right now and in my opinion would have been the best option after Drew. Winston might do well, but he needs the handcuffs taken off along with weapons back.

RailBoss 10-05-2021 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 930603)
I still don't understand why we let Teddy walk. Teddy would have this team 4-0 right now and in my opinion would have been the best option after Drew. Winston might do well, but he needs the handcuffs taken off along with weapons back.
Unfortunately we couldn't hold a good man down. Things were shaky when he went to Carolina but when he got to Denver he's lighting the field up. Unfortunate that he took that questionable hit during the Ravens game.

TheOak 10-05-2021 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 930603)
I still don't understand why we let Teddy walk. Teddy would have this team 4-0 right now and in my opinion would have been the best option after Drew. Winston might do well, but he needs the handcuffs taken off along with weapons back.
Teddy walked because Teddy is a grown man and wanted to walk, he wanted to start. So that and throwing money at a back up QB when you against the cap every year isn't a luxury many teams can afford.

Teddy's contract is $11.5mm WInston's is $2.5mm

TheOak 10-05-2021 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 930602)
Best comment off that tweet LOL.

"The Rams and Chargers built a $5 billion indoor stadium that is susceptible to lightning delays."

RailBoss 10-05-2021 01:34 PM
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Thought the guy got hit by lightening trying to shake the electricity out of his arms.

Rugby Saint II 10-05-2021 03:18 PM
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I'm not lying awake at night worrying about it anymore. I bet Payton is still losing sleep though.

Rugby Saint II 10-05-2021 03:36 PM
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corect

AsylumGuido 10-05-2021 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 930598)
What is an intact defense?
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 930599)
in·tact
/inˈtakt/
Learn to pronounce
adjective
not damaged or impaired in any way; complete.
"the church was almost in ruins but its tower remained intact"

Depends I guess?!?
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 930601)
Well, T-rex was doing well and Jenkins was a good CB2. David O was playing and Davenport was healthy for those rare games.
This, JP. The defense wasn't missing key pieces as we have experienced thus far this season. Not damaged or impaired as Smash pointed out in the definition. That why I used that word.

darksoul35 10-05-2021 04:54 PM
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He is? How so. Give the details of your analysis for us. Looking forward to this. Thanks in advance!
How about four games, four receptions and 21 yards?. I know he was outmatched against the D-lineman but you cant hold that blatantly. That was a huge momentum swing. I really thought he was going to show out. I was excited to see him this year.

SmashMouth 10-06-2021 08:06 AM
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Crazy engrish from a Stanford graduate.

K Major 10-06-2021 08:12 AM
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Cam is a Cal Bear.

SmashMouth 10-06-2021 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 930666)
https://twitter.com/camjordan94/stat...79800791588866

Crazy engrish from a Stanford graduate.
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 930670)
Cam is a Cal Bear.
:cheers: You IS Right!

:bng:

mapcow 10-06-2021 09:08 AM
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she good.... found a bull for her

K Major 10-06-2021 09:33 AM
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Juwan Johnson - 6/64 yards & 3 TDs thus far. JJ has definitely been a bright spot on offense thus far.

SmashMouth 10-06-2021 01:53 PM
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AsylumGuido 10-07-2021 10:25 AM
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The one stat that really stood out to me was the fact that Kamara was not targeted a single time in the passing game. Kamara averages 85 receptions a year and is always one of our best players in the passing game.

K Major 10-07-2021 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 930749)
Completely agree with Mike D. 9-8 on the outside looking in is probable.

This will be a roller coaster ride. Suspensions, injuries at key positions, and a new QB throwing to a bunch of undrafted guys who can’t separate.

Bobby H was backtracking in this clip :(.

AsylumGuido 10-07-2021 10:52 AM
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One more observation from the game. There were patches of empty seats all around the stadium. I know every season ticket eligible seat has been sold, therefore there were groups of season ticket holders that did not show up. These are not cheap seats. My guess is that the ticket holders were not vaccinated and didn't want the hassle of getting tested, yet also didn't want to give up their season tickets.

Rugby Saint II 10-07-2021 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 930810)
Completely agree with Mike D. 9-8 on the outside looking in is probable.

This will be a roller coaster ride. Suspensions, injuries at key positions, and a new QB throwing to a bunch of undrafted guys who can’t separate.

Bobby H was backtracking in this clip :(.
It doesn't feel like 9-8 is probable. It's possible but not probable.jmho

AsylumGuido 10-07-2021 01:05 PM
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dizzle88 10-07-2021 01:34 PM
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Nick should love those narratives, his pay-to-read company thrives off being able to argue about it.

SmashMouth 10-07-2021 04:59 PM
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The Meat Guy 10-08-2021 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 930811)
One more observation from the game. There were patches of empty seats all around the stadium. I know every season ticket eligible seat has been sold, therefore there were groups of season ticket holders that did not show up. These are not cheap seats. My guess is that the ticket holders were not vaccinated and didn't want the hassle of getting tested, yet also didn't want to give up their season tickets.
...or didn't wanna use the stairs, which are the only option now... no more ramps. They're gone. People are packed like ground meat now entering and exiting the Superdome. Do masks help with that?

Rugby Saint II 10-08-2021 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by The Meat Guy (Post 930863)
...or didn't wanna use the stairs, which are the only option now... no more ramps. They're gone. People are packed like ground meat now entering and exiting the Superdome. Do masks help with that?
I read that the ramps will go back up after the construction is completed. Don't quote me though.

AsylumGuido 10-08-2021 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 930876)
I read that the ramps will go back up after the construction is completed. Don't quote me though.
That's why I pointed out the current setup is temporary due to the current round of upgrades.

AsylumGuido 10-09-2021 09:26 AM
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The old cleat in the turf excuse.

dizzle88 10-09-2021 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 930917)
Lol that underthrow vs Falcons last year, he said the ball slipped out of his hands.

Drew didn't make this many excuses in 15 years.

Unfortunately though, we may have to endure this if Payton doesn't see the detriment it's having.

I'd love Hill to be in the game full time, just at RB / FB or TE.

dizzle88 10-09-2021 09:34 AM
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What's more, how can you blame a cleat being stuck for making the decision to throw to a 5"6 receiver that was double covered?

stickman 10-09-2021 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 930920)
What's more, how can you blame a cleat being stuck for making the decision to throw to a 5"6 receiver that was double covered?
He ran the play Sean Payton called. I understand he probably had a check down, but they were looking for the big play.

K Major 10-09-2021 10:39 AM
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Simply stop taking your QB out when they (Brees, now Winston) are in rhythm. Red-zone or goal line Taysom I understand.

All it’s doing is disrupting timing & killing scoring drives.

Old school, smash mouth football is still king.

Lord_Saint83 10-09-2021 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 930926)
Simply stop taking your QB out when they (Brees, now Winston) are in rhythm. Red-zone or goal line Taysom I understand.

All it’s doing is disrupting timing & killing scoring drives.

Old school, smash mouth football is still king.


Yep, just as winning in the trenches is a sure fire way to a W in any era

Rugby Saint II 10-09-2021 11:23 AM
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I do love the big uglies.


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