Why Book is the man for the job

AsylumGuido · 11-26-2021, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I wouldn't mind seeing him put in. He could have at least get mop up duties when a game gets out of hand, case in point (Buffalo) couldn't hurt one bit. Give him a taste to get his feet wet. I got big questions with this 0 line with little to nothing protection and no run game to boot. Any qb will have a hard time until they both get fixed. Trial by fire, good or bad.

The Bills were loading the box against the run because Siemian was no threat with the pass or his scrambling.

halloween 65 · 11-26-2021, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The Bills were loading the box against the run because Siemian was no threat with the pass or his scrambling.

Don't matter what they did, this O line got it's a$$ handed to it in the trenches no run game, and wr's that did little to nothing against their db's. We were overmatched. If the O could have in the least showed up, we could have had a run game with play action, kind of beat them up in the box, we couldn't even do that.

K Major · 11-26-2021, 03:34 PM

Yep.

O line play was low energy. Tony Jones Jr had no shot.

AsylumGuido · 11-26-2021, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Don't matter what they did, this O line got it's a$$ handed to it in the trenches no run game, and wr's that did little to nothing against their db's. We were overmatched. If the O could have in the least showed up, we could have had a run game with play action, kind of beat them up in the box, we couldn't even do that.

No kidding. We're playing with backups on the o-line and a 3rd string QB. They should get their asses handed to them. What else do you expect?

halloween 65 · 11-26-2021, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

No kidding. We're playing with backups on the o-line and a 3rd string QB. They should get their asses handed to them. What else do you expect?

The D to step up. Everyone already knows our O isn't running. That's no secret.

AsylumGuido · 11-26-2021, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

The D to step up. Everyone already knows our O isn't running. That's no secret.

The defense can only do so much. Just saying they need do more doesn't make it happen. I feel the defense IS stepping up, but they can't win a game with zero offense. This is all on the offense and the offense is playing with most of their starters missing. Once again, it all comes down to injuries. No amount of heart can overcome massive injuries.

K Major · 11-27-2021, 10:01 AM

As far as Ian Book goes ... I think it will depend on how much fight this team shows over the next two games before CSP decides to see what he has from the rookie.

99.9 % of us on the forum can agree Trevor ain't it.

K Major · 11-27-2021, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

And some have been mentally broken, which is my fear for Book. I'm good with giving him a few games if we are well out of contention so that we see better what Book has to offer. He is a fourth round pick who needs seasoning before throwing NFL defenses against him. He doesn't need trial by fire. That may work for first round draft picks. I'm guessing that Brady didn't get the start until there were no other options and even then probably not in his first year.

I'm starting to accept the fact that we are out of contention.

If we show little to nothing on next Thursday vs Cows, I'd be all for inserting Ian. The last thing we need to do is go into 2022 with more question marks & possibly another season looking for a QB. We kinda know what we have in Taysom & Winston. I'd like to see if Mr. Notre Dame has a platform to build on. If not, draft another one.

Up my way, I remember Dallas deciding to start Dak as a rookie & now he's a franchise QB. What does Dak and Ian have in common?

Both are former 4th rounders

...

At this point, I'm not understanding why CSP and Carmichael are holding Ian back unless they see him as a career clipboard holder.

saintfan · 11-27-2021, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'm starting to accept the fact that we are out of contention.

If we show little to nothing on next Thursday vs Cows, I'd be all for inserting Ian. The last thing we need to do is go into 2022 with more question marks & possibly another season looking for a QB. We kinda know what we have in Taysom & Winston. I'd like to see if Mr. Notre Dame has a platform to build on. If not, draft another one.

Up my way, I remember Dallas deciding to start Dak as a rookie & now he's a franchise QB. What does Dak and Ian have in common?

Both are former 4th rounders ...

At this point, I'm not understanding why CSP and Carmichael are holding Ian back unless they see him as a career clipboard holder.

AsylumGuido · 11-27-2021, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'm starting to accept the fact that we are out of contention.

If we show little to nothing on next Thursday vs Cows, I'd be all for inserting Ian. The last thing we need to do is go into 2022 with more question marks & possibly another season looking for a QB. We kinda know what we have in Taysom & Winston. I'd like to see if Mr. Notre Dame has a platform to build on. If not, draft another one.

Up my way, I remember Dallas deciding to start Dak as a rookie & now he's a franchise QB. What does Dak and Ian have in common?

Both are former 4th rounders ...

At this point, I'm not understanding why CSP and Carmichael are holding Ian back unless they see him as a career clipboard holder.

This is the absolute upside of 90% of QB's coming out of college into the NFL. Holding a clipboard is a pretty good living if you can hang in there.

11-26-2021, 02:51 PM	#41
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,392	Re: Why Book is the man for the job Originally Posted by halloween 65 I wouldn't mind seeing him put in. He could have at least get mop up duties when a game gets out of hand, case in point (Buffalo) couldn't hurt one bit. Give him a taste to get his feet wet. I got big questions with this 0 line with little to nothing protection and no run game to boot. Any qb will have a hard time until they both get fixed. Trial by fire, good or bad. The Bills were loading the box against the run because Siemian was no threat with the pass or his scrambling. neugey and jeanpierre like this.

11-26-2021, 03:19 PM	#42
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Why Book is the man for the job Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The Bills were loading the box against the run because Siemian was no threat with the pass or his scrambling. Don't matter what they did, this O line got it's a$$ handed to it in the trenches no run game, and wr's that did little to nothing against their db's. We were overmatched. If the O could have in the least showed up, we could have had a run game with play action, kind of beat them up in the box, we couldn't even do that. K Major likes this.

11-26-2021, 03:34 PM	#43
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,030 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Why Book is the man for the job Yep. O line play was low energy. Tony Jones Jr had no shot. halloween 65 likes this.

11-26-2021, 03:47 PM	#44
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,392	Re: Why Book is the man for the job Originally Posted by halloween 65 Don't matter what they did, this O line got it's a$$ handed to it in the trenches no run game, and wr's that did little to nothing against their db's. We were overmatched. If the O could have in the least showed up, we could have had a run game with play action, kind of beat them up in the box, we couldn't even do that. No kidding. We're playing with backups on the o-line and a 3rd string QB. They should get their asses handed to them. What else do you expect?

11-26-2021, 04:45 PM	#45
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Why Book is the man for the job Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No kidding. We're playing with backups on the o-line and a 3rd string QB. They should get their asses handed to them. What else do you expect? The D to step up. Everyone already knows our O isn't running. That's no secret.

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11-26-2021, 05:21 PM	#46
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,392	Re: Why Book is the man for the job Originally Posted by halloween 65 The D to step up. Everyone already knows our O isn't running. That's no secret. The defense can only do so much. Just saying they need do more doesn't make it happen. I feel the defense IS stepping up, but they can't win a game with zero offense. This is all on the offense and the offense is playing with most of their starters missing. Once again, it all comes down to injuries. No amount of heart can overcome massive injuries.

11-27-2021, 10:01 AM	#47
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,030 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Why Book is the man for the job As far as Ian Book goes ... I think it will depend on how much fight this team shows over the next two games before CSP decides to see what he has from the rookie. 99.9 % of us on the forum can agree Trevor ain't it. saintfan and neugey like this.

11-27-2021, 10:44 AM	#48
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,030 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Why Book is the man for the job Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II And some have been mentally broken, which is my fear for Book. I'm good with giving him a few games if we are well out of contention so that we see better what Book has to offer. He is a fourth round pick who needs seasoning before throwing NFL defenses against him. He doesn't need trial by fire. That may work for first round draft picks. I'm guessing that Brady didn't get the start until there were no other options and even then probably not in his first year. I'm starting to accept the fact that we are out of contention. If we show little to nothing on next Thursday vs Cows, I'd be all for inserting Ian. The last thing we need to do is go into 2022 with more question marks & possibly another season looking for a QB. We kinda know what we have in Taysom & Winston. I'd like to see if Mr. Notre Dame has a platform to build on. If not, draft another one. Up my way, I remember Dallas deciding to start Dak as a rookie & now he's a franchise QB. What does Dak and Ian have in common? Both are former 4th rounders ... At this point, I'm not understanding why CSP and Carmichael are holding Ian back unless they see him as a career clipboard holder. saintfan, jnormand and neugey like this.
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11-27-2021, 11:48 AM	#49
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Why Book is the man for the job Originally Posted by K Major I'm starting to accept the fact that we are out of contention. If we show little to nothing on next Thursday vs Cows, I'd be all for inserting Ian. The last thing we need to do is go into 2022 with more question marks & possibly another season looking for a QB. We kinda know what we have in Taysom & Winston. I'd like to see if Mr. Notre Dame has a platform to build on. If not, draft another one. Up my way, I remember Dallas deciding to start Dak as a rookie & now he's a franchise QB. What does Dak and Ian have in common? Both are former 4th rounders ... At this point, I'm not understanding why CSP and Carmichael are holding Ian back unless they see him as a career clipboard holder.

11-27-2021, 12:19 PM	#50
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,392	Re: Why Book is the man for the job Originally Posted by K Major I'm starting to accept the fact that we are out of contention. If we show little to nothing on next Thursday vs Cows, I'd be all for inserting Ian. The last thing we need to do is go into 2022 with more question marks & possibly another season looking for a QB. We kinda know what we have in Taysom & Winston. I'd like to see if Mr. Notre Dame has a platform to build on. If not, draft another one. Up my way, I remember Dallas deciding to start Dak as a rookie & now he's a franchise QB. What does Dak and Ian have in common? Both are former 4th rounders ... At this point, I'm not understanding why CSP and Carmichael are holding Ian back unless they see him as a career clipboard holder. This is the absolute upside of 90% of QB's coming out of college into the NFL. Holding a clipboard is a pretty good living if you can hang in there.