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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Boston Saint It seems crazy, but It’s a little misleading Voodoo. The contract could be for as “little” as around 11 mill a year. I’m not saying I’m in favor of it, but he only gets 96 ...

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Old 11-23-2021, 09:35 AM   #1
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It seems crazy, but It’s a little misleading Voodoo. The contract could be for as “little” as around 11 mill a year. I’m not saying I’m in favor of it, but he only gets 96 if he indeed becomes the QB.
At $96 million for four years it wuld be a steal for a QB contract opening up all types of possibilities for higher prices free agent additions.
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Old 11-23-2021, 09:46 AM   #2
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At $96 million for four years it wuld be a steal for a QB contract opening up all types of possibilities for higher prices free agent additions.
IDK about a steal. 96 mill would be 24/ season. The franchise tag value for a QB for 2021 according to spotrac is just under 25. So you are paying him close to a top 5 QB. Unless my math is wrong.
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IDK about a steal. 96 mill would be 24/ season. The franchise tag value for a QB for 2021 according to spotrac is just under 25. So you are paying him close to a top 5 QB. Unless my math is wrong.
That is if he starts all four years. You have to factor in QB salaries with the expanded cap in years 2022 through 2025. Some projections have average QB salaries being over $30 million in the very near future.

According to overthecap.com the top 13 2022 QB cap numbers are $23 million or more. Of those nine are more than $30 million and four are over $40 million! It's just going to keep climbing every year. Locking in a potential starting QB at $23 million per year for four years is absolutely a steal.
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That is if he starts all four years. You have to factor in QB salaries with the expanded cap in years 2022 through 2025. Some projections have average QB salaries being over $30 million in the very near future.

According to overthecap.com the top 13 2022 QB cap numbers are $23 million or more. Of those nine are more than $30 million and four are over $40 million! It's just going to keep climbing every year. Locking in a potential starting QB at $23 million per year for four years is absolutely a steal.
And projections had Michael Thomas playing this year. Bottom line is even with your projections, signing a guy to a 24 million a year deal to be your QB at best puts you in the middle of the pack salary wise. That’s hardly a steal. It’s par for the course at best.
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And projections had Michael Thomas playing this year. Bottom line is even with your projections, signing a guy to a 24 million a year deal to be your QB at best puts you in the middle of the pack salary wise. That’s hardly a steal. It’s par for the course at best.
It's par for 2021. Not for the future. Projecting an injured player playing and projecting salaries are vastly different in nature. Apples and oranges, Boston.
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It's par for 2021. Not for the future. Projecting an injured player playing and projecting salaries are vastly different in nature. Apples and oranges, Boston.
It is apples and oranges. My apples of the reality of 24 million a year contract which is almost top 5 pay as QB vs your made up oranges speculating 24 million will be a steal in 3-4 years because QB salaries would have risen so high.
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It is apples and oranges. My apples of the reality of 24 million a year contract which is almost top 5 pay as QB vs your made up oranges speculating 24 million will be a steal in 3-4 years because QB salaries would have risen so high.
Forget it. Whatever you say. You argue over the stupidest ****.

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Old 11-23-2021, 11:08 AM   #8
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At $96 million for four years it wuld be a steal for a QB contract opening up all types of possibilities for higher prices free agent additions.
Then why not offer 4 years and $96 million to a slightly better QB Trevor Simien, opening up all that free agent money to get him the receivers he needs.? Not a great solution, but at least he is not one concussion away from retirement.
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Then why not offer 4 years and $96 million to a slightly better QB Trevor Simien, opening up all that free agent money to get him the receivers he needs.? Not a great solution, but at least he is not one concussion away from retirement.
Siemian is not an NFL starter. He's proven that. And the new Hill contract does open up cap money. That's part of the reason for doing it.
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