Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Bills

saintfan · 11-26-2021, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Sorry, I personally don't think that's an excuse. They're NFL players. They are paid to play football. Specifically WR.

Definitely not an excuse. But its still accurate. These guys clearly don't know how to play the position at a level that would make any of them more than anybody's #3, #4 WR. And we're starting them.

1. We clearly overrated our WR room, injuries notwithstanding. That has to be on SOMEbody.

2. OR, the team knew exactly that the room, overall, was not good, and simply had to sell the players to the fans cause we don't have the cap to fix it.

I am not convinced Sean went into this season, with THESE WRs, and seriously thought he'd have a chance.

K Major · 11-26-2021, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Definitely not an excuse. But its still accurate. These guys clearly don't know how to play the position at a level that would make any of them more than anybody's #3, #4 WR. And we're starting them.

1. We clearly overrated our WR room, injuries notwithstanding. That has to be on SOMEbody.

2. OR, the team knew exactly that the room, overall, was not good, and simply had to sell the players to the fans cause we don't have the cap to fix it.

I am not convinced Sean went into this season, with THESE WRs, and seriously thought he'd have a chance.

+1.

I've said this countless times but this is the result when you ignore drafting at the skill position for 3+ seasons. 0 route runners on tap. This should be a wake-up call for CSP.

It's time to draft some legit, high-quality WR's. No more hoping to turn a lump of coal into a diamond.

The Great Marques Colston's of the world are rare breeds.

Lord_Saint83 · 11-26-2021, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

+1.

I've said this countless times but this is the result when you ignore drafting at the skill position for 3+ seasons. 0 route runners on tap. This should be a wake-up call for CSP.

It's time to draft some legit, high-quality WR's. No more hoping to turn a lump of coal into a diamond.

The Great Marques Colston's of the world are rare breeds.

Also them drafting guys you never heard of out these small schools in the first few rounds too. I’m getting tired of “Sam Wilson” from the university of Montana at Missoula sh*t. These guys got a huge learning curve to over come in the pros. It’s like they are trying to prove people wrong instead of going for surer things.

Boston Saint · 11-26-2021, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Definitely not an excuse. But its still accurate. These guys clearly don't know how to play the position at a level that would make any of them more than anybody's #3, #4 WR. And we're starting them.

1. We clearly overrated our WR room, injuries notwithstanding. That has to be on SOMEbody.

2. OR, the team knew exactly that the room, overall, was not good, and simply had to sell the players to the fans cause we don't have the cap to fix it.

I am not convinced Sean went into this season, with THESE WRs, and seriously thought he'd have a chance.

I think your 2 point is the biggest factor. And even then they were competitive until injuries struck. Having Lutz out alone has cost 2 games.

papz · 11-26-2021, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Definitely not an excuse. But its still accurate. These guys clearly don't know how to play the position at a level that would make any of them more than anybody's #3, #4 WR. And we're starting them.

1. We clearly overrated our WR room, injuries notwithstanding. That has to be on SOMEbody.

2. OR, the team knew exactly that the room, overall, was not good, and simply had to sell the players to the fans cause we don't have the cap to fix it.

I am not convinced Sean went into this season, with THESE WRs, and seriously thought he'd have a chance.

I think he did and that's a big problem.

We have a personnel problem that needs to be addressed. Whether it's Payton who needs to take a step back or getting the right GM/team together to evaluate talent. I get Loomis is "a cap guru", but he needs to be more than that.

RailBoss · 11-26-2021, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Definitely not an excuse. But its still accurate. These guys clearly don't know how to play the position at a level that would make any of them more than anybody's #3, #4 WR. And we're starting them.

1. We clearly overrated our WR room, injuries notwithstanding. That has to be on SOMEbody.

2. OR, the team knew exactly that the room, overall, was not good, and simply had to sell the players to the fans cause we don't have the cap to fix it.

I am not convinced Sean went into this season, with THESE WRs, and seriously thought he'd have a chance.

For #2 and yet they came out of the blue with that crazy Taysom contract.

11-26-2021, 10:51 AM	#1
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Bills Originally Posted by jnormand Sorry, I personally don't think that's an excuse. They're NFL players. They are paid to play football. Specifically WR. Definitely not an excuse. But its still accurate. These guys clearly don't know how to play the position at a level that would make any of them more than anybody's #3, #4 WR. And we're starting them. 1. We clearly overrated our WR room, injuries notwithstanding. That has to be on SOMEbody. 2. OR, the team knew exactly that the room, overall, was not good, and simply had to sell the players to the fans cause we don't have the cap to fix it. I am not convinced Sean went into this season, with THESE WRs, and seriously thought he'd have a chance. jnormand, K Major and Boston Saint like this.
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11-26-2021, 11:32 AM	#5
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,768	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Bills Originally Posted by saintfan Definitely not an excuse. But its still accurate. These guys clearly don't know how to play the position at a level that would make any of them more than anybody's #3, #4 WR. And we're starting them. 1. We clearly overrated our WR room, injuries notwithstanding. That has to be on SOMEbody. 2. OR, the team knew exactly that the room, overall, was not good, and simply had to sell the players to the fans cause we don't have the cap to fix it. I am not convinced Sean went into this season, with THESE WRs, and seriously thought he'd have a chance. I think he did and that's a big problem. We have a personnel problem that needs to be addressed. Whether it's Payton who needs to take a step back or getting the right GM/team together to evaluate talent. I get Loomis is "a cap guru", but he needs to be more than that.

11-26-2021, 01:11 PM	#6
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Bills Originally Posted by saintfan Definitely not an excuse. But its still accurate. These guys clearly don't know how to play the position at a level that would make any of them more than anybody's #3, #4 WR. And we're starting them. 1. We clearly overrated our WR room, injuries notwithstanding. That has to be on SOMEbody. 2. OR, the team knew exactly that the room, overall, was not good, and simply had to sell the players to the fans cause we don't have the cap to fix it. I am not convinced Sean went into this season, with THESE WRs, and seriously thought he'd have a chance. For #2 and yet they came out of the blue with that crazy Taysom contract.

11-26-2021, 11:12 AM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Bills Originally Posted by saintfan Definitely not an excuse. But its still accurate. These guys clearly don't know how to play the position at a level that would make any of them more than anybody's #3, #4 WR. And we're starting them. 1. We clearly overrated our WR room, injuries notwithstanding. That has to be on SOMEbody. 2. OR, the team knew exactly that the room, overall, was not good, and simply had to sell the players to the fans cause we don't have the cap to fix it. I am not convinced Sean went into this season, with THESE WRs, and seriously thought he'd have a chance. +1. I've said this countless times but this is the result when you ignore drafting at the skill position for 3+ seasons. 0 route runners on tap. This should be a wake-up call for CSP. It's time to draft some legit, high-quality WR's. No more hoping to turn a lump of coal into a diamond. The Great Marques Colston's of the world are rare breeds. saintfan, Rugby Saint II and Lord_Saint83 like this.

11-26-2021, 11:25 AM	#3
Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Bills Originally Posted by K Major +1. I've said this countless times but this is the result when you ignore drafting at the skill position for 3+ seasons. 0 route runners on tap. This should be a wake-up call for CSP. It's time to draft some legit, high-quality WR's. No more hoping to turn a lump of coal into a diamond. The Great Marques Colston's of the world are rare breeds. Also them drafting guys you never heard of out these small schools in the first few rounds too. I’m getting tired of “Sam Wilson” from the university of Montana at Missoula sh*t. These guys got a huge learning curve to over come in the pros. It’s like they are trying to prove people wrong instead of going for surer things. saintfan and K Major like this.

11-26-2021, 11:16 AM	#4
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Bills Originally Posted by saintfan Definitely not an excuse. But its still accurate. These guys clearly don't know how to play the position at a level that would make any of them more than anybody's #3, #4 WR. And we're starting them. 1. We clearly overrated our WR room, injuries notwithstanding. That has to be on SOMEbody. 2. OR, the team knew exactly that the room, overall, was not good, and simply had to sell the players to the fans cause we don't have the cap to fix it. I am not convinced Sean went into this season, with THESE WRs, and seriously thought he'd have a chance. I think your 2 point is the biggest factor. And even then they were competitive until injuries struck. Having Lutz out alone has cost 2 games. saintfan and Rugby Saint II like this.