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Old 11-26-2021, 02:51 PM   #21
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Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Bills

All of our money is tied up in huge unimaginable contracts for undeperforming players and our roster is loaded with dirt cheap contracts to offset that. I'm talking UDFA's loaded. Some of our late picks are finally developing on the team though and they look to have potential. When you tie up all your money in a large group of overpaid starters you can't afford to pay for quality replacements. In NO when they go down the next man up needs to be developing on the practice squad not being eaten alive by high draft picks with years of training and development.

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Old 11-26-2021, 03:33 PM   #22
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- The defense stood up well in the first half for the most part. The Bills first drive was mostly likely their best scripted plays which should have given them their best chance for success. We were still in the game at the half. The ineptitude of the Siemian led offense kept the defense on the field far too long for them to remain effective.

- As poorly as Siemian played in each of his first three starts he is regressing even further. The opposition knows he is not threat to pass accurately or escape even minimal pressure. This allowed the Bills the opportunity to continuously load the box against the run and send minimal pressure on passing downs. Every Saints possession started out with a 2nd and 8 or worse. The Bills were shredded by the Colts the previous week for 264 yards on the ground because Wentz was an actual threat in the pass game and the defense had to play honest.

- As outclassed as our receivers are they were still getting open, but Siemian was not finding them. When he did target them he missed the throw more times than not. There were times when it wasn't even apparent who his target actually was.

- Bills fans had a huge presence in the Dome. I suppose ticket holders moved their tickets in favor of turkey and dressing early in the season. That many opposing fans cannot fly in under current conditions with the pandemic requirements. To their credit they were extremely vocal and were enjoying 70 degree weather instead of the normal Buffalo fare.
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Defense knows it has had to carry this O, there not!! I don't think they can or will. Not the greatest front overall. Not a contenders D, more like a complimentary D, one that has to rely on the O for at least 25 a game. I have a had time with our O able to score 25.
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Old 11-26-2021, 05:02 PM   #24
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The D never really stood a chance with the offense never giving them a break, HOWEVER....Marcus Williams, I have to say is one of the worst tackling safeties I've ever seen. The first Bills Touchdown to Knox, he reads the flare pass, runs up to Knox, strokes his Jersey a little, Touchdown.
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Old 11-26-2021, 05:12 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 View Post
Defense knows it has had to carry this O, there not!! I don't think they can or will. Not the greatest front overall. Not a contenders D, more like a complimentary D, one that has to rely on the O for at least 25 a game. I have a had time with our O able to score 25.
You do realize we were missing our best lineman on that front, right? And they did a commendable job with the offense falling flat on their faces every possession.
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Old 11-26-2021, 05:13 PM   #26
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Now that I think about it… where the hell was Kenny Stills last night??
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Now that I think about it… where the hell was Kenny Stills last night??
He was in there on the opening play and then 20 more snaps according to the boxscore. Never targeted.
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Old 11-26-2021, 07:20 PM   #28
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Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Bills

Glad to hear Guido's feedback. You can always observe more live at the game than you can on TV.

At 5-6 it feels like we have reached a "break glass" situation on offense. Over the last two games Siemian has been well below replacement level, even for a backup QB. I bet less than 5% of fans let alone the general public think Siemian still should be starting. It's Payton team though and we have to live with his choice - just know his approval rating will fall off a cliff if he persists with the Siemian delusion.
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Glad to hear Guido's feedback. You can always observe more live at the game than you can on TV.

At 5-6 it feels like we have reached a "break glass" situation on offense. Over the last two games Siemian has been well below replacement level, even for a backup QB. I bet less than 5% of fans let alone the general public think Siemian still should be starting. It's Payton team though and we have to live with his choice - just know his approval rating will fall off a cliff if he persists with the Siemian delusion.
I really think Payton had no choice so far. Taysom was hurt and I'm sure he knows that Book simply isn't ready. They see Book in practice every day. They know what he can, and more importantly, cannot do. I don't think he wants Siemian out there anymore than the rest of us but his options are limited until Hill can actually take snaps.

As for approval rating, do you really think Payton gives a crap? LOL!
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Old 11-26-2021, 10:29 PM   #30
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Sean doesn't want to reveal to much to the opponents and limit Hill's, Saints' success...

Sean simply leaves it as Hill is reported injured, compliant with NFL, but is not physically ready to play QB...


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