Which would you want? Win Out or Lose Out?

shawnkytonk · 12-07-2021, 02:52 AM

I could never want my team to lose, but we aren't going anywhere this year. This is a double edged sword.

AsylumGuido · 12-07-2021, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Here's the thing, while I'm usually the realist and not blinded by fandom that I don't withhold criticism of the team, coaches, or players, this season is different...

We've an extra game this year and there's gonna be a lot of dangerous teams make the playoffs the last week of the season...

As much of a tailspin as our season has taken with injuries and some occisional bone-head play calling, we've beaten some pretty good teams this season...

If the playoffs were today, those teams would be the AFC No. 1 seed (Pats), NFC No. 2 seed (Packers), NFC No. 3 seed (Bucs), NFC No. 6 seed (Redskins)...

In fact, the Saints have the best record in the NFL vs strongest teams - Imagine That; and it may work against us in draft seeding...

And I truly believe the table was set against us vs the Cowboys; considering Saints unavailable, Taysom's brave, injured performance, we had those MoFos at full strength...

But if we lose another game, don't think we make the playoffs even if we get Kamara, Ramczyk, Davenport, Tanoh, Gardner, Cam Jordan, and Trautman back this season...

However, if we can squeak it out, get those names back, Taysom can tough it out through the tournament, well, as the saying goes, any given Sunday...

But if we lose one more game, say the Jets, I'd tank all games except ATL, so we could move up in the draft and get the best possible roster reinforcements...

So that's my reply, AG...

I get that, JP. But, between the two options, which would you prefer? As I explained, neither would be my preference, but given the choice between the two every loss takes a piece of my heart. I went with #2.

Budsdrinker · 12-07-2021, 08:58 AM

I'm a Die-Hard Saints Fan. Both options suck reindeer balls just to keep it in the Christmas Spirit. Heaux Heaux Heaux

WW_Who_Dat · 12-07-2021, 09:27 AM

Take what comes our way and appreciate the job that the coaching staff has accomplished in spite of the unprecedented injuries, suspensions and Goodall awful officiating.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 12-07-2021, 10:12 AM

I reject your pessimistic premise and take Option #3:

Saints win out in regular season, the defense balls out in the postseason and rides that wave all the way to a SuperBowl win in the most improbably NFL run ever.

Keep fighting until mathematical elimination each season. That's my motto for the team.

SFIAH

mapcow · 12-07-2021, 10:14 AM

Lose of course.....cuz that's what the Saints are this year....LOSERS

AsylumGuido · 12-07-2021, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I reject your pessimistic premise and take Option #3:

Saints win out in regular season, the defense balls out in the postseason and rides that wave all the way to a SuperBowl win in the most improbably NFL run ever.

Keep fighting until mathematical elimination each season. That's my motto for the team.

SFIAH

Oh, that is absolutely my option. I would think that would be a slam dunk for everyone. But, I've been seeing on Saints social media a debate between those saying no way we win a playoff game even if we make it and others wanting us to lose out so we have a shot at a top five draft pick. Thus the two choices. I sounds like you would be in favor of option #2 between just the two. Am I right?

AsylumGuido · 12-07-2021, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

I'm a Die-Hard Saints Fan. Both options suck reindeer balls just to keep it in the Christmas Spirit. Heaux Heaux Heaux

Yes they do.

jeanpierre · 12-07-2021, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Here's the thing, while I'm usually the realist and not blinded by fandom that I don't withhold criticism of the team, coaches, or players, this season is different...

We've an extra game this year and there's gonna be a lot of dangerous teams make the playoffs the last week of the season...

As much of a tailspin as our season has taken with injuries and some occisional bone-head play calling, we've beaten some pretty good teams this season...

If the playoffs were today, those teams would be the AFC No. 1 seed (Pats), NFC No. 2 seed (Packers), NFC No. 3 seed (Bucs), NFC No. 6 seed (Redskins)...

In fact, the Saints have the best record in the NFL vs strongest teams - Imagine That; and it may work against us in draft seeding...

And I truly believe the table was set against us vs the Cowboys; considering Saints unavailable, Taysom's brave, injured performance, we had those MoFos at full strength...

But if we lose another game, don't think we make the playoffs even if we get Kamara, Ramczyk, Davenport, Tanoh, Gardner, Cam Jordan, and Trautman back this season...

However, if we can squeak it out, get those names back, Taysom can tough it out through the tournament, well, as the saying goes, any given Sunday...

But if we lose one more game, say the Jets, I'd tank all games except ATL, so we could move up in the draft and get the best possible roster reinforcements...

So that's my reply, AG...

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I get that, JP. But, between the two options, which would you prefer? As I explained, neither would be my preference, but given the choice between the two every loss takes a piece of my heart. I went with #2.

AG, gave that answer in my conclusion statement Brother - but, I can't agree with losing to the ATL...

AsylumGuido · 12-07-2021, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

AG, gave that answer in my conclusion statement Brother - but, I can't agree with losing to the ATL...

So your choice between 1.) losing the last five and 2.) winning the last five is ?.) winning all unless losing to the Jets, then lose all except for Atlanta.

Okay.

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12-07-2021, 02:52 AM	#11
shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: Which would you want? Win Out or Lose Out? I could never want my team to lose, but we aren't going anywhere this year. This is a double edged sword. Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-07-2021, 08:30 AM	#12
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,216	Re: Which would you want? Win Out or Lose Out? Originally Posted by jeanpierre Here's the thing, while I'm usually the realist and not blinded by fandom that I don't withhold criticism of the team, coaches, or players, this season is different... We've an extra game this year and there's gonna be a lot of dangerous teams make the playoffs the last week of the season... As much of a tailspin as our season has taken with injuries and some occisional bone-head play calling, we've beaten some pretty good teams this season... If the playoffs were today, those teams would be the AFC No. 1 seed (Pats), NFC No. 2 seed (Packers), NFC No. 3 seed (Bucs), NFC No. 6 seed (Redskins)... In fact, the Saints have the best record in the NFL vs strongest teams - Imagine That; and it may work against us in draft seeding... And I truly believe the table was set against us vs the Cowboys; considering Saints unavailable, Taysom's brave, injured performance, we had those MoFos at full strength... But if we lose another game, don't think we make the playoffs even if we get Kamara, Ramczyk, Davenport, Tanoh, Gardner, Cam Jordan, and Trautman back this season... However, if we can squeak it out, get those names back, Taysom can tough it out through the tournament, well, as the saying goes, any given Sunday... But if we lose one more game, say the Jets, I'd tank all games except ATL, so we could move up in the draft and get the best possible roster reinforcements... So that's my reply, AG... I get that, JP. But, between the two options, which would you prefer? As I explained, neither would be my preference, but given the choice between the two every loss takes a piece of my heart. I went with #2.

12-07-2021, 08:58 AM	#13
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12-07-2021, 09:27 AM	#14
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12-07-2021, 10:12 AM	#15
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12-07-2021, 10:14 AM	#16
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12-07-2021, 10:21 AM	#17
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,216	Re: Which would you want? Win Out or Lose Out? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I reject your pessimistic premise and take Option #3: Saints win out in regular season, the defense balls out in the postseason and rides that wave all the way to a SuperBowl win in the most improbably NFL run ever. Keep fighting until mathematical elimination each season. That's my motto for the team. SFIAH Oh, that is absolutely my option. I would think that would be a slam dunk for everyone. But, I've been seeing on Saints social media a debate between those saying no way we win a playoff game even if we make it and others wanting us to lose out so we have a shot at a top five draft pick. Thus the two choices. I sounds like you would be in favor of option #2 between just the two. Am I right?

12-07-2021, 10:22 AM	#18
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,216	Re: Which would you want? Win Out or Lose Out? Originally Posted by Budsdrinker I'm a Die-Hard Saints Fan. Both options suck reindeer balls just to keep it in the Christmas Spirit. Heaux Heaux Heaux Yes they do.

12-07-2021, 11:44 AM	#19
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Which would you want? Win Out or Lose Out? Originally Posted by jeanpierre Here's the thing, while I'm usually the realist and not blinded by fandom that I don't withhold criticism of the team, coaches, or players, this season is different... We've an extra game this year and there's gonna be a lot of dangerous teams make the playoffs the last week of the season... As much of a tailspin as our season has taken with injuries and some occisional bone-head play calling, we've beaten some pretty good teams this season... If the playoffs were today, those teams would be the AFC No. 1 seed (Pats), NFC No. 2 seed (Packers), NFC No. 3 seed (Bucs), NFC No. 6 seed (Redskins)... In fact, the Saints have the best record in the NFL vs strongest teams - Imagine That; and it may work against us in draft seeding... And I truly believe the table was set against us vs the Cowboys; considering Saints unavailable, Taysom's brave, injured performance, we had those MoFos at full strength... But if we lose another game, don't think we make the playoffs even if we get Kamara, Ramczyk, Davenport, Tanoh, Gardner, Cam Jordan, and Trautman back this season... However, if we can squeak it out, get those names back, Taysom can tough it out through the tournament, well, as the saying goes, any given Sunday... But if we lose one more game, say the Jets, I'd tank all games except ATL, so we could move up in the draft and get the best possible roster reinforcements... So that's my reply, AG... Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I get that, JP. But, between the two options, which would you prefer? As I explained, neither would be my preference, but given the choice between the two every loss takes a piece of my heart. I went with #2. AG, gave that answer in my conclusion statement Brother - but, I can't agree with losing to the ATL...

12-07-2021, 12:59 PM	#20
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,216	Re: Which would you want? Win Out or Lose Out? Originally Posted by jeanpierre AG, gave that answer in my conclusion statement Brother - but, I can't agree with losing to the ATL... So your choice between 1.) losing the last five and 2.) winning the last five is ?.) winning all unless losing to the Jets, then lose all except for Atlanta. Okay. Rell&Gold likes this.