we can not win with brooks as our qb.

SapperSaint · 09-21-2005, 06:50 AM

Why should I NOT defend Brooks when he's being unjustly criticized?

WHY? WHY? UNJUSTLY CRITICIZED? AB has had one, ONE good year. We should be asking why anyone would defend this "Hasbeen". How many times do you see Tom Brady, McNabb, Peyton, or any other QB, F*#KING SMILE when HE F*#KED UP???? AB is not a leader, never has been never will be. Why does the QB get blamed?????? BECAUSE HE IS THE LEADER OF THE DAMN TEAM! When any other team gets the crap beat out them, the QB is there talking to the media. I am sick and tired of "It's not Brooks' fault", B.S.! Here are the people we can blame...HAZ, Venturi, and BROOKS! I don't care if the guy does give us a winning season. He needs to be kicked to the curb. We have wasted far too much time in him and he won't be worth anything in a trade. We got rid of J.T. and that was a mistake, and if we keep on with AB we will, "MARK MY WORDS", we will get rid of A MAC before his time. Bump the bum and lets start over. No one here wants to wear a hat with SB Champ hat with our Saints on it more than anyone else. Hell, I've been waiting 33 years! I do think we need some kind of rebuilding year. The city will get rebuild, how about the team? Come on guys we have got to quit wishing about a SB. Buddy D., God Bless Him, I'm not too sure he ever thought they would make it to the SB. We need to start over.

4saintspirit · 09-21-2005, 08:20 AM

I would be known in these circles as a Brooks Basher (although I rather believe I am more like an unbiased critic). In standing with my beliefs I must say I though AB played a decent game. Sure he had his once a game blooper highlight play -- but for the most part I liked the way he played. His passes were sharp (sometimes too sharp because Conwell would have caught that TD in the endzone prior to the missed FG had the ball not been a rocket).

I guess I finally saw the improvement in his game that I have been waiting for the last 4 years. The Giants D stuffed the run and it was all on AB's shoulders -- I think he was up to the challenge. We consistently started deep in our own territory and he consistently moved the ball across mid field. If he play like Monday night the rest of the season we will be okay.

BrooksMustGo · 09-21-2005, 11:08 AM

I would be known in these circles as a Brooks Basher (although I rather believe I am more like an unbiased critic). In standing with my beliefs I must say I though AB played a decent game. Sure he had his once a game blooper highlight play -- but for the most part I liked the way he played. His passes were sharp (sometimes too sharp because Conwell would have caught that TD in the endzone prior to the missed FG had the ball not been a rocket).

4saint has a very good point here. I'm probably the furthest thing from a "basher" on this board. Seemed to me that Brooks wasn't dreadful in this game, just in over his head. The giants took away the run and Brooks couldn't beat them with his arm. This isn't news, we've seen it for several seasons now.

The red zone is our worst enemy. The goal line through the 35 yard line (on both ends of the field) is the equivalent of the Bermuda Triangle for Aaron Brooks. He's great in between the 36s.

Oldies is totally right here too. The more compressed the field is, the less effective brooks becomes. The short field is kryptonite with this guy.

The truth is that we can't do anything about it now. Dealing with brooks is an off-season project. Until then, it makes more sense to work at improving the running game and let him continue padding his stats so that we get better value in a trade for him. His cap number will become intolerable for no more than he gives us next season.

All in all, not his worst outing, but far from his best either.

Rsanders24 · 09-21-2005, 11:32 AM

This loss was a team effort. Maybe Brooks should have told Conwell to turn around a look for the ball and stop playing scared or if he knew that he was going to drop passes sprayed some stick-um on his hands. If he catches either one of those passes just maybe the game would be different. Is it just me or does A. Smith run way better between the tackles than Duece (Overpaid!) He just doesn't seem to have good vision. When Ricky was here and he would plow right into the back of his linemen everyone said he must run with his eyes closed. Maybe Duece does too! Craft showed in the preseason that he is very inconsistent. He should have been released after preseason. One semi-bright spot this season has been the play of Sullivan. He has played pretty decently so far.

09-21-2005, 06:50 AM	#51
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Why should I NOT defend Brooks when he's being unjustly criticized? WHY? WHY? UNJUSTLY CRITICIZED? AB has had one, ONE good year. We should be asking why anyone would defend this "Hasbeen". How many times do you see Tom Brady, McNabb, Peyton, or any other QB, F#KING SMILE when HE F#KED UP???? AB is not a leader, never has been never will be. Why does the QB get blamed?????? BECAUSE HE IS THE LEADER OF THE DAMN TEAM! When any other team gets the crap beat out them, the QB is there talking to the media. I am sick and tired of "It's not Brooks' fault", B.S.! Here are the people we can blame...HAZ, Venturi, and BROOKS! I don't care if the guy does give us a winning season. He needs to be kicked to the curb. We have wasted far too much time in him and he won't be worth anything in a trade. We got rid of J.T. and that was a mistake, and if we keep on with AB we will, "MARK MY WORDS", we will get rid of A MAC before his time. Bump the bum and lets start over. No one here wants to wear a hat with SB Champ hat with our Saints on it more than anyone else. Hell, I've been waiting 33 years! I do think we need some kind of rebuilding year. The city will get rebuild, how about the team? Come on guys we have got to quit wishing about a SB. Buddy D., God Bless Him, I'm not too sure he ever thought they would make it to the SB. We need to start over.
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09-21-2005, 08:20 AM	#52
4saintspirit 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 690	I would be known in these circles as a Brooks Basher (although I rather believe I am more like an unbiased critic). In standing with my beliefs I must say I though AB played a decent game. Sure he had his once a game blooper highlight play -- but for the most part I liked the way he played. His passes were sharp (sometimes too sharp because Conwell would have caught that TD in the endzone prior to the missed FG had the ball not been a rocket). I guess I finally saw the improvement in his game that I have been waiting for the last 4 years. The Giants D stuffed the run and it was all on AB's shoulders -- I think he was up to the challenge. We consistently started deep in our own territory and he consistently moved the ball across mid field. If he play like Monday night the rest of the season we will be okay.
4saintspirit 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 690

09-21-2005, 11:08 AM	#53
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	I would be known in these circles as a Brooks Basher (although I rather believe I am more like an unbiased critic). In standing with my beliefs I must say I though AB played a decent game. Sure he had his once a game blooper highlight play -- but for the most part I liked the way he played. His passes were sharp (sometimes too sharp because Conwell would have caught that TD in the endzone prior to the missed FG had the ball not been a rocket). 4saint has a very good point here. I'm probably the furthest thing from a "basher" on this board. Seemed to me that Brooks wasn't dreadful in this game, just in over his head. The giants took away the run and Brooks couldn't beat them with his arm. This isn't news, we've seen it for several seasons now. The red zone is our worst enemy. The goal line through the 35 yard line (on both ends of the field) is the equivalent of the Bermuda Triangle for Aaron Brooks. He's great in between the 36s. Oldies is totally right here too. The more compressed the field is, the less effective brooks becomes. The short field is kryptonite with this guy. The truth is that we can't do anything about it now. Dealing with brooks is an off-season project. Until then, it makes more sense to work at improving the running game and let him continue padding his stats so that we get better value in a trade for him. His cap number will become intolerable for no more than he gives us next season. All in all, not his worst outing, but far from his best either.

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09-21-2005, 11:32 AM	#54
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	This loss was a team effort. Maybe Brooks should have told Conwell to turn around a look for the ball and stop playing scared or if he knew that he was going to drop passes sprayed some stick-um on his hands. If he catches either one of those passes just maybe the game would be different. Is it just me or does A. Smith run way better between the tackles than Duece (Overpaid!) He just doesn't seem to have good vision. When Ricky was here and he would plow right into the back of his linemen everyone said he must run with his eyes closed. Maybe Duece does too! Craft showed in the preseason that he is very inconsistent. He should have been released after preseason. One semi-bright spot this season has been the play of Sullivan. He has played pretty decently so far.