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Well, Mike isn't underperforming, he's just been injured ... a LOT.

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He’s tied for second in receiving TDs on the team.

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So, the Saints have added two more linebackers. One to the active roster and one to the practice squad. I guess they're trying to evaluate as many linebackers as possible. They may need to let Ellis walk if he wants too much money. Or if they're cleaning house they could feasibly let DeMario Davis go. I don't want to see that but it would be one way to save money this off season. It seems like we always cut good players to save money.

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Or they need players for special teams since several have gone to injury. But, I believe we seldom cut players to save money. We sometimes do not re-sign a player that is wanting more money than they feel they are worth. There's a difference.

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When the covid pandemic caught up to the Saints they weren't allowed to follow the usual salary cap increase accounting method we've followed lately. I believe that you're we lost a lot of valuable talent because we couldn't afford to keep them. Which is my point. We lose players that we can't afford to keep and quite often it's because of the never ending contract extensions.

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Yes, the COVID cap hit everyone hard. But, we had the space to sign each of those players that left so it wasn't that we couldn't afford them, but that we decided we didn't want to keep them for that price. That's what I was trying to stress. It's like that $50,000 car that you can afford, but you know you don't need because the $35,000 one, although not as fancy, allows you to have that extra budget to use in some other way ... like a trip to Europe.

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Where we are today.

OFFENSE

QB (3) #4 Derek Carr, #2 Jameis Winston, #7 Taysom Hill

RB (4) #41 Alvin Kamara, #30 Jamal Williams, #24 Dwayne Washington, #31 Eno Benjamin

FB (1) #46 Adam Prentice

WR-X (2) #13 Michael Thomas, #10 Tre’Quan Smith

WR-S (2) #89 Rashid Shaheed, #33 Kirk Merritt

LT (4) #70 Trevor Penning, #74 James Hurst, #67 Landon Young, #79 Yasir Durant

LG (3) #75 Andrus Peat, #76 Calvin Throckmorton, #66 Lewis Kidd

C (1) #78 Erik McCoy

RG (1) #51 Cesar Ruiz

RT (2) #71 Ryan Ramcyzk, #74 Storm Norton

TE (3) #83 Juwan Johnson, #82 Adam Trautman, #87 Lukas Krull

WR-Z (2) #12 Chris Olave, #18 Keith Kirkwood


DEFENSE

RDE (2) #90 Tanoh Kpassagnon, #98 Payton Turner

RDT (1) # Khalen Saunders

LDT (2) #97 Nathan Shepherd, #57 Prince Emili

LDE (3) #94 Cam Jordan, #96 Carl Granderson, #69 Jabari Zuniga

WLB (1) #20 Pete Werner

MLB (4) #56 DeMario Davis, #52 D’Marco Jackson, #58 Ty Summers, #45 Nephi Sewell

SLB (2) #53 Zack Baun, #57 Ryan Connelly

RCB (3) #23 Marshon Lattimore, #27 Alontae Taylor, #36 Isaac Yiadom

FS (4) #32 Tyrann Mathieu, #48 J.T. Gray, #38 Smoke Monday, # Ugo Amadi

SS (1) #6 Marcus Maye

LCB (4) #29 Paulson Adebo, #19 Chris Harris, Jr., #25 Troy Pride, Jr., #35 Vincent Gray


KICKING

K (1) #3 Wil Lutz

P (1) #5 Blake Gillikin

LS (1) #49 Zach Wood

RS (1) #89 Rashid Shaheed

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WR-X (2) #13 Michael Thomas, #10 Tre’Quan Smith

WR-S (2) #89 Rashid Shaheed, #33 Kirk Merritt

An upgrade from TSmith is needed and necessary.

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Who you got in mind?

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In Free Agency, give me the LSU kid > Chark.

In the draft, I'd prefer a slot guy like Josh Downs. I understand he's a smaller WR but he just seems to get open.

I also like Ole Miss kid Jonathan Mingo. Big, plays like a dawg to me & he's tough/physical. The knock I see is that he didn't run away from many in college.

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I like Mingo too 3rd round grade
Bryce Ford Wheaton 4th
Do either of the Tennessee receivers fall past round 2? Tillman or Hyatt could be nice additions.

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Current 2023 Saints roster as of 3/19/2023 :bng:

QB Derek Carr
QB Jameis Winston
QB Jake Luton

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WC Taysom Hill aka Mr. Football

RB Alvin Kamara
RB Jamaal Williams
RB Eno Benjamin
RB Derrick Gore

FB Adam Prentice

WR Chris Olave
WR Rashid Shaheed
WR Michael Thomas
WR Kirk Merritt *
WR Tre'Quan Smith *
WR Keith Kirkwood *
WR Kawaan Baker *

TE Juwan Johnson
TE Adam Trautman *
TE Lucas Krull *
TE Miller Forristall

RT Ryan Ramczyk
RG Cesar Ruiz
C Erik McCoy
LG Andrus Peat
LT James Hurst *
LT Trevor Penning
G Calvin Throckmorton
RT Storm Norton
T Landon Young
T/G Lewis Kidd
G Yasir Durant *
G Koda Martin *

DE Cameron Jordan
DT Nathan Shepherd
DT Khalen Saunders
DE Carl Granderson
DE Payton Turner
DE Tanoh Kpassagnon
DE Jabari Zuniga *
DT Prince Emili *
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LB Demario Davis
LB Pete Werner
LB Zack Baun
LB D'Marco Jackson
LB Ty Summers
LB Ryan Connelly
LB Nephi Sewell
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S Tyrann Mathieu
S Marcus Maye
S J.T. Gray
S Ugo Amadi
S Smoke Monday
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CB Marshon Lattimore
CB Alontae Taylor
CB Bradley Roby
CB Paulson Adebo
CB Troy Pride *
CB Vincent Gray
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LS Zach Wood
P Blake Gillikin
K Wil Lutz

K Alex Quevedo *

** denotes bubble guys for me :rolleyes:

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^^^ Replacement for Justin Evans.

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Old school, in the box safety with good speed. Coverage poor, but he can hit. I liked him a lot coming out of Mississippi State. Big fan. Hasn’t panned out.

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Can never have too many bodies going into training camp. He could be a starter, a backup, or a PS player by the first game of the season.

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Bump ...

Marquez Calloway to Denver.

In an EXTREMELY difficult AFC division, Sean P is going to learn the hard way by signing avg/below-average WRs.

Meanwhile, we still have Trequan :rolleyes:.

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I wonder what Sean will give us for Tre' Quann? I hope we draft his replacement next month and part ways next year. He is a good blocker and possibly a good #4 or #5 WR.

SP had Drew Brees to make his receivers look better. Cunningham may not have the same influence with his receivers in Denver.

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I find it interesting that the age of the Saints roster is brought up as an argument by some detractors. The average age of the Saints roster is 27.17 years. The league average is 26.54 years of age. 31 of the 32 teams have an average age of greater than 26 years, with only one team, the Rams, averaging under 26 years of age (25.91). Let's also not forget that those Rams finished with the 5th worst record in the league this past season.

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Can we try him at guard then ? :rolleyes:.

At some point, Peat WILL go down with an injury.

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:shock::cursing::ohno::ohno::jkool::nuts:

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SF76 suggested drafting a WR on Day 1 …

Maybe he's on to something.

MT is about a month away from taking his physical (big signing bonus is due if he passes) & another substantial check.

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Thomas is not 100%. We definitely need another possession receiver. We've got speed with Olave and Shaheed. Go get MT's replacement before he misses more time...if he is even able to get on the field....

I'm glad we are having joint practice with the Chargers. It seems to wind up the intensity at training camp and bring the focus together playing against someone other than your team mates.

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Did you miss the part where Allen said he "expects him to be healthy and ready to go"?

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Nope. They say that every year.

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Was he not healthy and ready to go last season? He came out and balled right away. Completely healthy. He then suffered a totally unrelated injury similar to those suffered by both Ruiz and Penning.

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Literally. Could be the Saints slogan at this point.

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I spit out a sip of beer laughing when I read this Rugby!

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Not just any WR. I said if Quentin Johnston falls to 20 we should trade up.

RE Michael Thomas, he's barely played football the last couple years. I'm OK with coach working him back slowly.

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I wonder if Quentin is even on the Saint's draft board?

I do know the Packers & Chicago are in dire need of a top-quality WR in Rd1.

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Yes, he was healthy. The big question is can he stay healthy if he is ready to play?

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That's a question that can be asked about any player that steps foot on an NFL field. As they say, the NFL is a 100% injury sport. It's not IF a player is going to suffer an injury it is WHEN. Thomas has suffered two serious injuries in his career. He played in no less than 15 games each of the previous four seasons. He may go ten years without another injury or get injured on another freak play on the first snap.

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Sadly, it's a young man's game. When we age we heal slower, hurt more, and have old lingering injuries that haunt our comebacks. I know, I've had several comebacks that were limited by injury. Things like joints are weaker. Michael Thomas' game conditioning could be called into question having played so little in the last three years.

I've been successful coming back from injury, but I was rarely a starter at that point, and was more of a role player toward the end before one of my previous injuries shut me down completely. Of course, I was 60, so....

We need MT to be fully healthy and I hope he can but I'm not enthusiastic just yet.

Freak injuries occur but they happen more often to players who aren't ready for contact. MT might be ready before TC. Fingers crossed.:beatnik:

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One thing going for Thomas is that his body hasn't taken the wear and tear of a normal seven years of continual play. Beyond the two lower extremity injuries the rest of his body should be as fresh as could be.