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Boston Saint 08-08-2022 02:38 PM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 955950)
You are no more than background noise.

That’s a real heathy attitude to have about someone else’s opinion.

saintsfan1976 08-08-2022 02:39 PM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by subguy (Post 955947)
Then even after you come to his rescue and viilanize me, he posts more directly, after your post, out of spite. Adding fuel to the fire only makes it worse. Tsk tsk

Gosh, you're sensitive.

subguy 08-08-2022 03:11 PM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 955960)
Gosh, you're sensitive.

Not really 🤣

cmike 08-08-2022 03:24 PM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 955950)
I post whatever Saints related information I come across when I come across it in whatever spot I see as appropriate.

I appreciate this.
I really only come here to get the news. Saves me time.

Thanks

AsylumGuido 08-08-2022 04:06 PM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by cmike (Post 955966)
I appreciate this.
I really only come here to get the news. Saves me time.

Thanks

That's exactly why I came here myself. Back then I was still working and missed out on so much Saints news. People like SmashMouth was always sharing information and kept me in the loop. Since I retired I have more and more time to sift through Twitter and other news sites and share what I find. Twitter is the greatest source of timely news ever. Back in my newspaper days I remember sitting in the news room and listening for the teletype with the UPI and AP feeds. Times have changed so much in 45 years.

shawnkytonk 08-08-2022 04:06 PM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by subguy (Post 955947)
Then even after you come to his rescue and viilanize me, he posts more directly, after your post, out of spite. Adding fuel to the fire only makes it worse. Tsk tsk

Then why look in this thread if you know what’s in it? The way Guido gets some of you worked up it just too funny. No offense to you or anyone else, but I thought this was a football board.

shawnkytonk 08-08-2022 04:12 PM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 955945)
It’s amazing what can happen with modern medicine when you don’t ghost your team and their training/medical support staff.

To be fair, high ankle sprains are very lingering issues. From what I’ve read, most who experience them have to be in a boot for 12 or more weeks. MT was back on the field after 7 weeks. There’s no way he was healed from his injury which is why he needed surgery. More likely than not the injury was complicated further due to bringing him back too soon. I empathize with MT and totally understand why he did what he did. Doesn’t mean I approve, but all this talk about he did Sean, Drew, etc wrong is total BS. I love Drew as much as anyone, but he retired about 2-3 seasons too late. This team wasn’t going anywhere in the postseason with him. And Thomas could have had his career ruined by being brought back before he was supposed to.

Boston Saint 08-08-2022 04:13 PM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by cmike (Post 955966)
I appreciate this.
I really only come here to get the news. Saves me time.

Thanks

It would be refreshing if he posted his “news” without being so disrespectful and antagonistic to other users.

Boston Saint 08-08-2022 04:17 PM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 955976)
To be fair, high ankle sprains are very lingering issues. From what I’ve read, most who experience them have to be in a boot for 12 or more weeks. MT was back on the field after 7 weeks. There’s no way he was healed from his injury which is why he needed surgery. More likely than not the injury was complicated further due to bringing him back too soon. I empathize with MT and totally understand why he did what he did. Doesn’t mean I approve, but all this talk about he did Sean, Drew, etc wrong is total BS. I love Drew as much as anyone, but he retired about 2-3 seasons too late. This team wasn’t going anywhere in the postseason with him. And Thomas could have had his career ruined by being brought back before he was supposed to.

Fair enough. I’ve had ankle surgery too so I know of the difficulties in rehab. But when you choose to leave your coach/teammates/training staff out of the process of you rehabbing you invite criticism of your choices…don’t you?
It seems like people just want to forget that he kept the team in the dark about his status. That’s a big deal IMO.

AsylumGuido 08-08-2022 04:21 PM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 955979)
Fair enough. I’ve had ankle surgery too so I know of the difficulties in rehab. But when you choose to leave your coach/teammates/training staff out of the process of you rehabbing you invite criticism of your choices…don’t you?
It seems like people just want to forget that he kept the team in the dark about his status. That’s a big deal IMO.

However, it no longer seems to be a big deal to those who count as in the Saints themselves. That's all that really matters, don't you think?

shawnkytonk 08-08-2022 04:24 PM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 955979)
Fair enough. I’ve had ankle surgery too so I know of the difficulties in rehab. But when you choose to leave your coach/teammates/training staff out of the process of you rehabbing you invite criticism of your choices…don’t you?
It seems like people just want to forget that he kept the team in the dark about his status. That’s a big deal IMO.

I can agree with most of this. But I’m assuming MT was POed about his rushing back and I feel it was warranted. I can admit it wasn’t the right or most mature thing to do. It was handled wrong on both sides in my honest opinion and everyone should recognize that.

AsylumGuido 08-08-2022 04:24 PM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 955976)
To be fair, high ankle sprains are very lingering issues. From what I’ve read, most who experience them have to be in a boot for 12 or more weeks. MT was back on the field after 7 weeks. There’s no way he was healed from his injury which is why he needed surgery. More likely than not the injury was complicated further due to bringing him back too soon. I empathize with MT and totally understand why he did what he did. Doesn’t mean I approve, but all this talk about he did Sean, Drew, etc wrong is total BS. I love Drew as much as anyone, but he retired about 2-3 seasons too late. This team wasn’t going anywhere in the postseason with him. And Thomas could have had his career ruined by being brought back before he was supposed to.

I'm just glad the second surgery this past November was successful and he has worked his butt off to get back onto the field. Let's not forget that he was the Offensive Player of the Year the last time he was able to play unhindered.

Boston Saint 08-08-2022 04:33 PM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 955982)
I can agree with most of this. But I’m assuming MT was POed about his rushing back and I feel it was warranted. I can admit it wasn’t the right or most mature thing to do. It was handled wrong on both sides in my honest opinion and everyone should recognize that.

Each season is unique. I look back on past seasons and ask “what could have been?”. What if we get the PI against LA? What if Minnesota doesn’t get the Miracle. What if Thomas was available last year? We will never know because he chose to NOT work with the team. Maybe it made a difference, maybe not.

I’ve said before that I want him playing for the Saints. But Why is it bad for me to look back and say “I wish he would have kept the team abreast of his status?”. Maybe they would have made the post season if they would have known he wasn’t ready and made allowances? It cracks me up that we have the WR corps we have now and people want to forget how bad it was last year at least partially thanks to Mike.

iceshack149 08-08-2022 05:04 PM

Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
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Jameis Winston Injured On Monday
Unfortunately, they might have to come to terms with it following the latest news. Winston appeared to tweak his foot during 7-on-7 drills today.
The Saints quarterback wound up leaving today's practice session early. Thankfully, he did not have to leave on the cart. Head coach Dennis Allen later announced that Winston rolled his ankle, but didn't suffer serious injury.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...a70cbb40adc7ba

shawnkytonk 08-08-2022 05:07 PM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 955986)
Each season is unique. I look back on past seasons and ask “what could have been?”. What if we get the PI against LA? What if Minnesota doesn’t get the Miracle. What if Thomas was available last year? We will never know because he chose to NOT work with the team. Maybe it made a difference, maybe not.

I’ve said before that I want him playing for the Saints. But Why is it bad for me to look back and say “I wish he would have kept the team abreast of his status?”. Maybe they would have made the post season if they would have known he wasn’t ready and made allowances? It cracks me up that we have the WR corps we have now and people want to forget how bad it was last year at least partially thanks to Mike.

It’s not bad at all. My perception of your take is that you’re putting all the blame on MT which I think is wrong. Looking back and knowing what I know, I don’t think he would have been able to play very much to make a difference regardless of communicating more.

AsylumGuido 08-08-2022 05:25 PM

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K Major 08-08-2022 05:29 PM

Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Ice up Winston!

This is why I'm glad we have a legit #2 in Andy Dalton on the roster.

Boston Saint 08-08-2022 08:05 PM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 955991)
It’s not bad at all. My perception of your take is that you’re putting all the blame on MT which I think is wrong. Looking back and knowing what I know, I don’t think he would have been able to play very much to make a difference regardless of communicating more.

The blame I put on Thomas is not keeping in touch with the team. It cost them in two ways; 1) Caught them off guard and undermanned at the WR position and 2) possibly could have been back sooner and/or not had the re-injury if he would have followed team advice (or at least getting their opinions). Bottom line is not keeping in touch with your team regarding a major injury is a stupid and selfish move.

AsylumGuido 08-08-2022 10:37 PM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 

AsylumGuido 08-08-2022 10:49 PM

Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
First official depth chart shared by the team.


subguy 08-08-2022 11:57 PM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 955983)
I'm just glad the second surgery this past November was successful and he has worked his butt off to get back onto the field. Let's not forget that he was the Offensive Player of the Year the last time he was able to play unhindered.

Oh real dialogue, what a novel idea.

Let's also not forget someone has to throw him the ball. You keep underestimating, his QB. This is a whole new look since the last time he saw the field.

shawnkytonk 08-09-2022 10:06 AM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 955999)
The blame I put on Thomas is not keeping in touch with the team. It cost them in two ways; 1) Caught them off guard and undermanned at the WR position and 2) possibly could have been back sooner and/or not had the re-injury if he would have followed team advice (or at least getting their opinions). Bottom line is not keeping in touch with your team regarding a major injury is a stupid and selfish move.

It’s also a selfish move to bring a player back in half the time it takes to heal from an injury that threatens to end his career at his age. It’s unwarranted animosity.

Boston Saint 08-09-2022 10:35 AM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 956013)
It’s also a selfish move to bring a player back in half the time it takes to heal from an injury that threatens to end his career at his age. It’s unwarranted animosity.

I’ve stated multiple times that I hope CGM comes back healthy and kicks ass. I’ve said I wanted him on the team. Don’t confuse/dismiss legitimate observations and critique of past events and behavior as simple dislike shawnk. Please. Another user here does that all the time.

AsylumGuido 08-09-2022 11:26 AM

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AsylumGuido 08-09-2022 01:17 PM

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AsylumGuido 08-09-2022 01:31 PM

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cmike 08-09-2022 04:08 PM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 956036)

He looked good on the snap. Real good burst off the line. But, the cut at the top of the route, looked ugly.

Crusader 08-09-2022 04:19 PM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by cmike (Post 956054)
He looked good on the snap. Real good burst off the line. But, the cut at the top of the route, looked ugly.

You mean after the catch?

AsylumGuido 08-09-2022 04:24 PM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by cmike (Post 956054)
He looked good on the snap. Real good burst off the line. But, the cut at the top of the route, looked ugly.

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 956057)
You mean after the catch?

Yeah. I'm not seeing it either, Mike. :confused:

AsylumGuido 08-09-2022 04:57 PM

Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
We know he practiced today, but this makes it formal.


AsylumGuido 08-09-2022 05:03 PM

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K Major 08-09-2022 07:59 PM

Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
The depth at LINEBACKER is rough.

AsylumGuido 08-10-2022 10:21 AM

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AsylumGuido 08-10-2022 10:26 AM

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AsylumGuido 08-10-2022 10:28 AM

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AsylumGuido 08-10-2022 10:44 AM

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AsylumGuido 08-10-2022 10:49 AM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 

K Major 08-10-2022 10:56 AM

Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 955894)
Maybe they like the new kid but want some veteran role player in the interim. There are plenty of roster cuts coming, some of which may fit the bill.

Who you got? Falcons will be outright cutting Debo soon.

Jackson appears to be in a red shirt year, Werner is still rehabbing and Baun is apparently "hurt".

I heard Nick Underhill mention Eric Wilson has looked well at camp so far ... so there's that.

AsylumGuido 08-10-2022 11:44 AM

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Crusader 08-10-2022 01:45 PM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
I typically don't want to get too excited....








...but I'm starting to get hella excited!!!


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