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rezburna 02-08-2022 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 944275)
I think Lovie is a solid hire for Houston!
Lovie Smith is a great hire. I didn’t understand why he had to go coach in college instead of getting another head coaching job after he was let go in Chicago. I actually didn’t know he was even back in the league. I expect the Texans to have a good defense now.

AsylumGuido 02-08-2022 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 944276)
Lovie Smith is a great hire. I didn’t understand why he had to go coach in college instead of getting another head coaching job after he was let go in Chicago. I actually didn’t know he was even back in the league. I expect the Texans to have a good defense now.
He was the Texans associate HC and DC this past season. It probably flew under the radar because the Texans were so dismal overall. They gave up the second most yards in the league last season.

FinSaint 02-08-2022 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 944276)
Lovie Smith is a great hire. I didn’t understand why he had to go coach in college instead of getting another head coaching job after he was let go in Chicago. I actually didn’t know he was even back in the league. I expect the Texans to have a good defense now.
He was the HC in Tampa for two seasons after being let go by the Bears.

jeanpierre 02-08-2022 05:30 PM
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jeanpierre 02-09-2022 04:36 PM
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ChrisXVI 02-09-2022 07:25 PM
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O-Line regressed big time under Nugent so that’s not a surprise. Forget about the street free agents brought in to start, I’m talking the starters. Ramczyk especially regressed. Ruiz constantly looked lost out there. Bad coaching.

K Major 02-09-2022 07:57 PM
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Allen is cleaning house with the coaches huh? New ideas, new coaches with a different perspective are needed and necessary.

Good for him.

jeanpierre 02-09-2022 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 944253)
(From Yesterday Morning)

Regarding the Saints assistants, as stated, secondary coaches make the best DCs, and I'd like to see Richard get that shot, so long as he retains secondary coach...

I'd like to see Pete Carmichael remain as OC, considering injuries and such, he's been a steady force and would like to see what he'd offer without Sean in the room...

If there are any assistants who are vulnerable, Receivers coach Curtis Johnson and Offensive Line coach Brendan Nugent helmed underwhelming units last year...

In particular, the poor development, growth of Ruiz, Calloway really stood out and as DA was already in the room, guess the call will be made if coaching was an issue...
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O-Line regressed big time under Nugent so that’s not a surprise. Forget about the street free agents brought in to start, I’m talking the starters. Ramczyk especially regressed. Ruiz constantly looked lost out there. Bad coaching.





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BakoSaint 02-10-2022 02:00 AM
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Now we need to hear that Taysom Hill, Andrus Peat, Carli Ruiz, and Michael Thomas will not be with the roster. Then we are really cleaning house.

Crusader 02-10-2022 03:22 AM
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https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...79760237072384

https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...78819886600193

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O-Line regressed big time under Nugent so that’s not a surprise. Forget about the street free agents brought in to start, I’m talking the starters. Ramczyk especially regressed. Ruiz constantly looked lost out there. Bad coaching.
Curtis Johnson is the only one that I'll be a little sad to see go. I am really excited that we are making a change at OL coach. Hopefully the next one can tap into the potential that is there.

saintsfan1976 02-10-2022 07:23 AM
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Carmichael takes over as O Analyst.
Marrone for Nugent.
They'll both add experience to the OC's approach.

Dan Dalrymple. Maybe it's me but most of us at this site have complained about the rash of untimely injuries. Does that fall on Dan?

Crusader 02-10-2022 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 944461)
Dan Dalrymple. Maybe it's me but most of us at this site have complained about the rash of untimely injuries. Does that fall on Dan?
Hard to say, sometimes injuries are just because of freak stuff, bad luck. But if you see the same kind of injuries on a lot of players on a team it might be down to the strenght and conditioning.

I had one of my playing years over here when we had a boatload of shoulder injuries on the team. After the season the analysis was that there had been way to much OH pressen and shoulder exercises during the off season and during the season which caused players to break down. That offseason the program changed and the problem disapeared.
The Saints have had quite a history with groin and lover stomach injuries and it will be interesting to see iw that changes with a new SAC coach.

AsylumGuido 02-10-2022 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 944461)
Carmichael takes over as O Analyst.
Marrone for Nugent.
They'll both add experience to the OC's approach.

Dan Dalrymple. Maybe it's me but most of us at this site have complained about the rash of untimely injuries. Does that fall on Dan?
That's the Nugent replacement with Marrone move that I was hoping for early yesterday. It makes too much sense given Ruiz' lack of development. Strief said Ruiz very talented and works his butt off but didn't improve as much as hoped. THAT's on the coach.

AsylumGuido 02-10-2022 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 944457)
Now we need to hear that Taysom Hill, Andrus Peat, Carli Ruiz, and Michael Thomas will not be with the roster. Then we are really cleaning house.
This is an example of the talk I was referring to, TheOak, about clearing out players. There are others as well saying the same. They are the ones not considering the cap implications. I agree with you 100% that it doesn't make sense.

saintfan 02-10-2022 09:47 AM
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This is an example of the talk I was referring to, TheOak, about clearing out players. There are others as well saying the same. They are the ones not considering the cap implications. I agree with you 100% that it doesn't make sense.
Yes, the one where he pretty much blasted you. This is your passive-aggressive way of "getting him back"...

You and everyone else can see he's not interested in your thoughts and yet you persist. A day later and you're STILL trying to get the last word, albeit via a separate comment from a different user.

Why did you put his username in Bold? You sick little :censored:

I know exactly who (and what) you are speedo (NPD). And by the way, you're on record here stating the cap doesn't matter. Which is a stupid thing to say, unless you're a clueless fanboy. Oh yeah you ARE a clueless fanboy.

jeanpierre 02-10-2022 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 944461)
Carmichael takes over as O Analyst.
Marrone for Nugent.
They'll both add experience to the OC's approach.

Dan Dalrymple. Maybe it's me but most of us at this site have complained about the rash of untimely injuries. Does that fall on Dan?
Definitely falls in the range of the head trainer; may be that it seems unfair to unload the rash of injuries on him, but may also be he's failed to assess why there are so many...

Can see a situation where Dennis Allen asked him why he thought there were so many injuries and Dalrymple failed to take that next step to record, track the injuries for analysis...

While that statement is pure speculation, an example, trying to make a point that maybe Allen wants to see an evolving trainer's program, and the current one is stagnant...

Still believe Carmichael should remain the offensive coordinator, maybe take on QB Coach again to develop Taysom, the ND kid, or a new draft pick...

Marrone definitely shown he can get it done as Oline coach - looks to be a slam-dunk hire; Curtis may have grown too comfortable or just needs a reset, but WRs were awful...

jeanpierre 02-10-2022 10:33 AM
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Candidate for the Saints' DC job Aubrey Pleasant; not always pleasant for players about his coaching style...

K Major 02-10-2022 11:39 AM
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Circling back to KRIS RICHARD.

He’s had serious success with Seattle (LOB), Dallas (Marinelli got more praise but it was KR) and most recently in New Orleans as secondary coach .

Who else is more qualified to lead a defense? Players absolutely love his coaching style & he’s well respected around the league.

SmashMouth 02-10-2022 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 944476)
Candidate for the Saints' DC job Aubrey Pleasant; not always pleasant for players about his coaching style...

https://twitter.com/jjones9/status/1437443237170581505
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...e-coordinator/

:confused:

saintsfan1976 02-10-2022 12:15 PM
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I want to see what Kris Richard can do with the defense

AsylumGuido 02-10-2022 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 944492)
There's the Rooney Rule qualifier. It has to be someone from "outside" of the organization. Kris Richard wouldn't count. Not saying that is the reason for the interview, of course.

saintfan 02-10-2022 12:45 PM
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There's the Rooney Rule qualifier. It has to be someone from "outside" of the organization. Kris Richard wouldn't count. Not saying that is the reason for the interview, of course.
Who's tweet did you still that from? :p

AsylumGuido 02-10-2022 01:10 PM
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I saw a good point out on Saints Twitter. How (or why) are they hiring all of these offensive assistants without an OC hire yet?

Could they already have someone in mind?

papz 02-10-2022 02:23 PM
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Carmichael transitioning to a lesser role. We're going to get a fresh set of eyes that will not have loyalty to any one player. Smart.

AsylumGuido 02-10-2022 02:51 PM
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Crusader 02-10-2022 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 944476)
Candidate for the Saints' DC job Aubrey Pleasant; not always pleasant for players about his coaching style...

https://twitter.com/jjones9/status/1437443237170581505
That stuff will work for certain players and not at all for others. The good coaches figure out what works for each individual player and tailor their approach accordingly.

jeanpierre 02-10-2022 05:14 PM
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That stuff will work for certain players and not at all for others. The good coaches figure out what works for each individual player and tailor their approach accordingly.
Agreed. But it's nice to know he has that passion and he's not afraid to keep a high profile rookie like Okudah grounded so he can be a better person, player...

ChrisXVI 02-10-2022 05:43 PM
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jeanpierre 02-10-2022 06:35 PM
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jeanpierre 02-10-2022 07:43 PM
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saintsfan1976 02-10-2022 08:09 PM
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Certainly have to respect the view of a former, longtime NFL CEO.

Just not from the Raiders franchise....

jeanpierre 02-10-2022 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 944543)
Certainly have to respect the view of a former, longtime NFL CEO.

Just not from the Raiders franchise....
Thought y'all would appreciate it... ;)

jeanpierre 02-10-2022 10:12 PM
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ChrisXVI 02-11-2022 01:52 AM
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Interesting. The Saints never used RPO’s under the old staff.

jeanpierre 02-11-2022 05:02 AM
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Interesting. The Saints never used RPO’s under the old staff.
Possible tell for the draft, or QB already on roster...

ChrisXVI 02-11-2022 07:40 AM
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Possible tell for the draft, or QB already on roster...
That would point to Matt Corral. Big time RPO-based offense at Ole Miss last year. I definitely would not take any of the QB’s at 18 but the 2nd round? Sure.

K Major 02-11-2022 08:14 AM
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National Scouts have discounted the entire 2022 QB draft class as “poor”.

Watch a STUD QB emerge from the group 🤪.

Boston Saint 02-11-2022 08:35 AM
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National Scouts have discounted the entire 2022 QB draft class as “poor”.

Watch a STUD QB emerge from the group 🤪.
Brady was a 6th rounder !

saintfan 02-11-2022 08:41 AM
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Brady was a 6th rounder !
Hell man, I went undrafted, and look at me now!

:banana:

jeanpierre 02-11-2022 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 944578)
National Scouts have discounted the entire 2022 QB draft class as “poor”.

Watch a STUD QB emerge from the group 🤪.
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 944579)
Brady was a 6th rounder !
Hagan and I discussed this directly a couple of times years ago; we felt the discussions all of us had here were more informed, deliberative than most draft rooms...

Many of the so-called scouts in the NFL are nothing more than nepotism hires and despite updated software, most have little to no scouting assessment skills...


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