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jeanpierre 02-21-2022 09:21 PM
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Not sure I like the co-defensive coordinator arrangement, but we'll see...

Should have just promoted Richard to DC, let DA call plays (his prerogative), and let Nielsen remain Asst HC...

AsylumGuido 02-22-2022 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 945473)
Not sure I like the co-defensive coordinator arrangement, but we'll see...

Should have just promoted Richard to DC, let DA call plays (his prerogative), and let Nielsen remain Asst HC...
Do the titles matter if their duties are well defined within the organization?

saintfan 02-22-2022 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 945488)
Do the titles matter if their duties are well defined within the organization?
When you have two leaders you don't have a leader. I don't expect you to understand until and unless you can find a tweet to copy and paste.

jeanpierre 02-22-2022 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 945497)
When you have two leaders you don't have a leader. I don't expect you to understand until and unless you can find a tweet to copy and paste.
It can be confusing to not only the locker room, but the rest of the world that speak a language and understand what the DC is responsible...

I also suspect that naming them both DC would give the Saints org leverage should other teams come sniping...

bobdog86 02-22-2022 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 945522)
It can be confusing to not only the locker room, but the rest of the world that speak a language and understand what the DC is responsible...

I also suspect that naming them both DC would give the Saints org leverage should other teams come sniping...
Agreed...when you have two leaders, you have none. Who is responsible when it works? and who is responsible when it fails.....Regardless of leverage I just don't think it's a good idea. Someone needs to have their name on it, whether they succeed or fail.

AsylumGuido 02-22-2022 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bobdog86 (Post 945524)
Agreed...when you have two leaders, you have none. Who is responsible when it works? and who is responsible when it fails.....Regardless of leverage I just don't think it's a good idea. Someone needs to have their name on it, whether they succeed or fail.
If their duties were the same there would absolutely be an issue with shared responsibility. But if their duties were isolated to each of their areas of expertise primarily and play-calling based upon their individual areas of expertise being handled by Allen, there would be a clear definition of the separate areas of responsibility. Check out the Ross Jackson YouTube video in the other thread or my quick summary.

saintfan 02-22-2022 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 945529)
If their duties were the same there would absolutely be an issue with shared responsibility. But if their duties were isolated to each of their areas of expertise primarily and play-calling based upon their individual areas of expertise being handled by Allen, there would be a clear definition of the separate areas of responsibility. Check out the Ross Jackson YouTube video in the other thread or my quick summary.
You switched from twitter to YouTube? Bah hahahahahahaha

Gasp...

Bah hahahahahahaha

:nuts:

jeanpierre 02-22-2022 04:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobdog86 (Post 945524)
Agreed...when you have two leaders, you have none. Who is responsible when it works? and who is responsible when it fails.....Regardless of leverage I just don't think it's a good idea. Someone needs to have their name on it, whether they succeed or fail.
Was actually warming to the idea of Kris Richard just focusing on coordinating the defense and DA calling plays, that way Richard could take on the position in manageable portions...

K Major 02-22-2022 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 945553)
Was actually warming to the idea of Kris Richard just focusing on coordinating the defense and DA calling plays, that way Richard could take on the position in manageable portions...
IMO this is a temporary title for Kris.

He's likely moving on after this season.

jeanpierre 02-23-2022 03:16 PM
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jeanpierre 02-23-2022 03:17 PM
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jeanpierre 02-23-2022 03:18 PM
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AsylumGuido 02-23-2022 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 945648)
This ^^^. Dennis Allen is going to basically be the DC like Nick says. Richard and Nielsen should just be assistants with a DC sign on their office doors.

K Major 02-23-2022 03:43 PM
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I guess.

AsylumGuido 02-23-2022 03:53 PM
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AsylumGuido 02-23-2022 05:06 PM
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Mike Triplett points out that the titles don't matter as much as just keeping the two on staff.

AsylumGuido 02-23-2022 05:34 PM
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AsylumGuido 02-23-2022 05:40 PM
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Nothing for Morton or Strief, yet, it appears. I would assume they'd be retained, too.

saintfan 02-23-2022 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 945667)
Nothing for Morton or Strief, yet, it appears. I would assume they'd be retained, too.
I'm sure somebody will tweet an opinion you can borrow if you wait awhile...

jeanpierre 02-24-2022 09:34 AM
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Eyes need to be on Ronald Curry if he's up to the task...

jeanpierre 02-24-2022 11:25 AM
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While I really was impressed Dennis Allen was able to get Marrone to come back to the NFL, the Saints for that much, we still have a personnel problem on the interior...

AsylumGuido 02-24-2022 11:59 AM
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I had forgotten that the Saints were one of only a few that had never had a black coordinator. Significant.

saintfan 02-24-2022 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 945717)
I had forgotten that the Saints were one of only a few that had never had a black coordinator. Significant.

https://twitter.com/JeffDuncan_/stat...63907813670913
With a racist name like "Guido" I bet you were very well aware and this is you trying to cover it up.

jeanpierre 02-25-2022 02:15 AM
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jeanpierre 02-25-2022 02:24 AM
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saintsfan1976 02-25-2022 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 945709)
While I really was impressed Dennis Allen was able to get Marrone to come back to the NFL, the Saints for that much, we still have a personnel problem on the interior...
Currently, yes.

jeanpierre 02-25-2022 11:06 AM
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Also curious if and how much Marrone can improve Calvin Throckmorton, Landon Young and James Hurst; and would Will Clapp be brought back and improved...

jeanpierre 02-26-2022 09:24 PM
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Kodi Burns will immediately have an impact on the draft class this year with regards to WRs...

He's coached them at camps or recruited them for school...

jeanpierre 02-28-2022 04:43 PM
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ChrisXVI 02-28-2022 05:16 PM
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Going to the Alabama well again this offseason.

K Major 02-28-2022 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 945965)
https://twitter.com/latekickjosh/sta...33180004667393

Going to the Alabama well again this offseason.
It won't hurt my feelings if they want to bring in Metchie III or Jameson Williams while they are at it ;).

Day 2? I'd pull the trigger.

ChrisXVI 02-28-2022 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 945967)
It won't hurt my feelings if they want to bring in Metchie III or Jameson Williams while they are at it ;).

Day 2? I'd pull the trigger.
I’d take Jameson Williams at 18. I don’t care if he won’t be ready for the start of the season because of the injury.

ChrisXVI 02-28-2022 05:51 PM
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Very encouraging to hear after the Matt Rhea news.

jeanpierre 02-28-2022 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 945969)
https://twitter.com/coachingmsmith/s...53142083964929

Very encouraging to hear after the Matt Rhea news.
The proof is in the pudding, will be interesting the effect they have in the upcoming season...

K Major 03-01-2022 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 945969)
https://twitter.com/coachingmsmith/s...53142083964929

Very encouraging to hear after the Matt Rhea news.
Marcus Davenport, Andrus Peat & Payton Turner come on down ... IMO great hire by Dennis Allen and the Saints front office.

New ideas, new faces, different perspectives on conditioning.

Change is good.

jeanpierre 03-01-2022 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 945968)
I’d take Jameson Williams at 18. I don’t care if he won’t be ready for the start of the season because of the injury.
With this salary cap and this roster, they need immediate contributors even with #CantGuardMike back in the fold...

jeanpierre 03-01-2022 09:46 AM
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Some folks are fired up over the new hires...

ChrisXVI 03-01-2022 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 946005)
With this salary cap and this roster, they need immediate contributors even with #CantGuardMike back in the fold...
Nah we’ll be fine.

K Major 03-01-2022 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 946009)
Nah we’ll be fine.
You think so?

:couch:

K Major 03-01-2022 12:08 PM
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This is a good read on Rhea while he was working up in Indiana U. Soft tissue injuries were down ...

Looking like a serious hire by Dennis Allen.

https://www.stack.com/a/how-a-unique...iana-football/


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