Holy F**** S*!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rugby Saint II · 02-05-2022, 12:21 PM

saintsfan suggested that I block him since he was unwilling to listen to the feelings and opinions from the rest of the board has on this matter. I've only had to read this BS when someone else quotes him. I'm very glad that I blocked him even though I liked what he has to say when he's not attacking Guido. Now the only time I have to listen to his hate speech is when someone else quotes him. Unfortunately, he's on a mission and would rather spoil everbody else's day so he can be spiteful. That's a shame.

I truly respect your post and agree 100%. Peace out.

EDIT: Guido can be a know it all but he shares a lot of useful information that I enjoy. I agree that he really could tone down being as argumentative. He respects other people's opinion even though his own opinion is right and he will make his case. Sometimes, I agree, that he can be a bit of a bully and could work on his people skills. Couldn't we all?

AsylumGuido · 02-05-2022, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

saintsfan suggested that I block him since he was unwilling to listen to the feelings and opinions from the rest of the board has on this matter. I've only had to read this BS when someone else quotes him. I'm very glad that I blocked him even though I liked what he has to say when he's not attacking Guido. Now the only time I have to listen to his hate speech is when someone else quotes him. Unfortunately, he's on a mission and would rather spoil everbody else's day so he can be spiteful. That's a shame.

I truly respect your post and agree 100%. Peace out.

EDIT: Guido can be a know it all but he shares a lot of useful information that I enjoy. I agree that he really could tone down being as argumentative. He respects other people's opinion even though his own opinion is right and he will make his case. Sometimes, I agree, that he can be a bit of a bully and could work on his people skills. Couldn't we all?

For you my friend, I'm trying.

frydaddy · 02-05-2022, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

saintsfan suggested that I block him since he was unwilling to listen to the feelings and opinions from the rest of the board has on this matter. I've only had to read this BS when someone else quotes him. I'm very glad that I blocked him even though I liked what he has to say when he's not attacking Guido. Now the only time I have to listen to his hate speech is when someone else quotes him. Unfortunately, he's on a mission and would rather spoil everbody else's day so he can be spiteful. That's a shame.

I truly respect your post and agree 100%. Peace out.

EDIT: Guido can be a know it all but he shares a lot of useful information that I enjoy. I agree that he really could tone down being as argumentative. He respects other people's opinion even though his own opinion is right and he will make his case. Sometimes, I agree, that he can be a bit of a bully and could work on his people skills. Couldn't we all?

So I've noticed a common thread in the posts coming from people who disagree with saintfan's actions. The way you each describe how his posts affect you are the same feelings that sooooooo many of us have felt about Guido for a really long time. Imagine putting up with this bs for years, cause that's what we've been doing. I appreciate the olive branch you extend to those of us who are fed up with Guido in your last paragraph, but your assessment of his behavior and the effect it has on the forum falls woefully short of hitting the mark. Speaking strictly in terms of this site, he is cancer. I'm not suggesting the man is entirely lacking any redeeming qualities in real life, I don't know him personally and couldn't say one way or another for certain. But I can say with all conviction that he brings no value to this place. Any value he attempts to bring is so vastly outweighed by the negativity that comes along with his presence that it becomes pointless to consider. You all greatly underestimate how sick of Guido so many of us are. I've witnessed dozens of people attempt to reason with him, I tried many times myself. There was a period of time when I thought perhaps I'd just judged him too harshly. I eased off on being so critical of him and even found that there were a few things we could agree on. But in the last few years it's gotten a lot worse. I blocked him well over a year ago, but he gets quoted so often (usually because he's stirring s**t with someone) that it almost doesn't matter. I don't know if it's because he just posts more often, therefore exponentially multiplying the opportunity to be cancerous, or if his attitude has just gotten that much worse..probably a bit of both is my guess. Regardless, he looms as a dark cloud over every thread and discussion, and he's been doing it for years.

So, forgive the rest of us if we seem like we don't care about how all this is making you feel, I get that it's unpleasant. But I kinda feel like it's the same way many of you have behaved towards those of us who are tired of putting up with this guy. You shrug off the fact that he has caused people to stop coming here, ignore the countless instances where he's hostile towards people for the crime of having an opinion. I can deal with a know it all, he is far worse than a know it all.

Keep fighting the good fight saintfan, you know you've got a lot of us in your corner.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 02-05-2022, 02:28 PM

The difference I see in the current iteration is threefold. First is that saintfan goes after each and every post Guido puts up. Sometimes multiple posts as followup to a Guido post. Second each and every one is a personal attack at this point. And finally while each seems to be with the intent of driving Guido off the board, it isn't working. And it's not working because Guido has put saintfan on ignore, as many of the others of us has.

At this point it's just an annoyance with no purpose other than saintfan having this "scorched earth" campaign.

Can you point me to a current thread where Guido is "hostile towards people for the crime of having an opinion"? I've seen previous threads where Guido has gone "La-La-La I'm the Saints sunshine man". But I don't recall seeing this recently.

I really feel this is just a situation where a poster just talks a whole bunch and it irritates some people. But what is going on now isn't a solution. Which is why quite a few of us are calling for a stop to the shenanigans.

I've actually been taking saintfan off ignore here to read what he's been writing. I understand his frustration. But personally attacking each and every post in each and every thread isn't getting this situation anywhere.

SFIAH

iceshack149 · 02-05-2022, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Can you point me to a current thread where Guido is "hostile towards people for the crime of having an opinion"? I've seen previous threads where Guido has gone "La-La-La I'm the Saints sunshine man". But I don't recall seeing this recently.

SFIAH

This is the issue.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yes, petty. You take it as an assault on you. Brees doesn't give a flying **** because he knows it is meaningless in the greater scheme of things. You hang onto it because you are petty. Grow up. You are like a spoiled child.

If he doesn't care why should you? Maybe because you are a screaming racist yourself? How dare those darkies dis a white man? Is that it?

If not explain why it is so important to you.

Originally Posted by iceshack149

I figured that this conversation might head south but calling me a racist is absurd. I expect it from you, though.

Come on, Guido. Have a discussion without calling people these awful names for disagreeing with you. You are the poster that says you don't take anything personally and yet you end up being ugly in almost every thread.

A leopard can't change its spots and Guido can't help but be an awful person that has ruined many conversations here.

AsylumGuido · 02-05-2022, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

This is the issue.

A leopard can't change its spots and Guido can't help but be an awful person that has ruined many conversations here.

I believe I have apologized to you for that, iceshack. I will apologize again, however. To be honest that was a dark time for me when that was going on. On top of all that an all out attack was going on against Brees for his apology. You know me. An attack on Brees is an attack on me. It is a weakness I have, my illogical love for all that is Saints.

BakoSaint · 02-05-2022, 06:09 PM

If we were Mickey Loomis, the solution to this problem would be obvious, pay both $10-20 million a year to remain active on the forum for the next decade but structure the deal so it doesn’t affect this years cap but makes it impossible for either of them to be let go. Then turn off the new members registration feature because we already have too many great posters and there simply isn’t the space on this board that exists for more posts that every other teams forum has.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 02-05-2022, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

This is the issue.

A leopard can't change its spots and Guido can't help but be an awful person that has ruined many conversations here.

That's timestamped close to 18 months ago. I did specifically ask for something current. I'm trying to figure out what triggered this current ground assault.

SFIAH

jeanpierre · 02-05-2022, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

That's timestamped close to 18 months ago. I did specifically ask for something current. I'm trying to figure out what triggered this current ground assault.

SFIAH

Maybe your missing the point that this personalized attacking rhetoric has been going on for years (per timestamp) from that user and enough is enough for some folks here...

Believe it is your responsibility to answer your own inquiry and to review that user's posts and draw your own conclusions if it's important to you to choose to be fully-informed...

iceshack149 · 02-05-2022, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I believe I have apologized to you for that, iceshack. I will apologize again, however. To be honest that was a dark time for me when that was going on. On top of all that an all out attack was going on against Brees for his apology. You know me. An attack on Brees is an attack on me. It is a weakness I have, my illogical love for all that is Saints.

You apologized over a year after calling me an awful name. You left it out there and didn't care that everyone saw it and may have been influenced by it.

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

That's timestamped close to 18 months ago. I did specifically ask for something current. I'm trying to figure out what triggered this current ground assault.

SFIAH

That's why I said that a leopard can't change its spots. It's not new behavior. It's constant.

And honestly, if someone here called you a racist without reason and didn't make an effort to publicly say that they were out of line, will you shrug your shoulders and say that it's not a big deal? That's a

move and I'm not quick to get over it.

02-05-2022, 12:21 PM	#11
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Holy F** S!!!!!!!!!!!!* saintsfan suggested that I block him since he was unwilling to listen to the feelings and opinions from the rest of the board has on this matter. I've only had to read this BS when someone else quotes him. I'm very glad that I blocked him even though I liked what he has to say when he's not attacking Guido. Now the only time I have to listen to his hate speech is when someone else quotes him. Unfortunately, he's on a mission and would rather spoil everbody else's day so he can be spiteful. That's a shame. I truly respect your post and agree 100%. Peace out. EDIT: Guido can be a know it all but he shares a lot of useful information that I enjoy. I agree that he really could tone down being as argumentative. He respects other people's opinion even though his own opinion is right and he will make his case. Sometimes, I agree, that he can be a bit of a bully and could work on his people skills. Couldn't we all? SaintFanInATLHELL, leilung and AsylumGuido like this.
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02-05-2022, 01:09 PM	#12
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Holy F** S!!!!!!!!!!!!* Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II saintsfan suggested that I block him since he was unwilling to listen to the feelings and opinions from the rest of the board has on this matter. I've only had to read this BS when someone else quotes him. I'm very glad that I blocked him even though I liked what he has to say when he's not attacking Guido. Now the only time I have to listen to his hate speech is when someone else quotes him. Unfortunately, he's on a mission and would rather spoil everbody else's day so he can be spiteful. That's a shame. I truly respect your post and agree 100%. Peace out. EDIT: Guido can be a know it all but he shares a lot of useful information that I enjoy. I agree that he really could tone down being as argumentative. He respects other people's opinion even though his own opinion is right and he will make his case. Sometimes, I agree, that he can be a bit of a bully and could work on his people skills. Couldn't we all? For you my friend, I'm trying. Rell&Gold likes this.

02-05-2022, 02:08 PM	#13
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,950 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Holy F** S!!!!!!!!!!!!* Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II saintsfan suggested that I block him since he was unwilling to listen to the feelings and opinions from the rest of the board has on this matter. I've only had to read this BS when someone else quotes him. I'm very glad that I blocked him even though I liked what he has to say when he's not attacking Guido. Now the only time I have to listen to his hate speech is when someone else quotes him. Unfortunately, he's on a mission and would rather spoil everbody else's day so he can be spiteful. That's a shame. I truly respect your post and agree 100%. Peace out. EDIT: Guido can be a know it all but he shares a lot of useful information that I enjoy. I agree that he really could tone down being as argumentative. He respects other people's opinion even though his own opinion is right and he will make his case. Sometimes, I agree, that he can be a bit of a bully and could work on his people skills. Couldn't we all? So I've noticed a common thread in the posts coming from people who disagree with saintfan's actions. The way you each describe how his posts affect you are the same feelings that sooooooo many of us have felt about Guido for a really long time. Imagine putting up with this bs for years, cause that's what we've been doing. I appreciate the olive branch you extend to those of us who are fed up with Guido in your last paragraph, but your assessment of his behavior and the effect it has on the forum falls woefully short of hitting the mark. Speaking strictly in terms of this site, he is cancer. I'm not suggesting the man is entirely lacking any redeeming qualities in real life, I don't know him personally and couldn't say one way or another for certain. But I can say with all conviction that he brings no value to this place. Any value he attempts to bring is so vastly outweighed by the negativity that comes along with his presence that it becomes pointless to consider. You all greatly underestimate how sick of Guido so many of us are. I've witnessed dozens of people attempt to reason with him, I tried many times myself. There was a period of time when I thought perhaps I'd just judged him too harshly. I eased off on being so critical of him and even found that there were a few things we could agree on. But in the last few years it's gotten a lot worse. I blocked him well over a year ago, but he gets quoted so often (usually because he's stirring s**t with someone) that it almost doesn't matter. I don't know if it's because he just posts more often, therefore exponentially multiplying the opportunity to be cancerous, or if his attitude has just gotten that much worse..probably a bit of both is my guess. Regardless, he looms as a dark cloud over every thread and discussion, and he's been doing it for years. So, forgive the rest of us if we seem like we don't care about how all this is making you feel, I get that it's unpleasant. But I kinda feel like it's the same way many of you have behaved towards those of us who are tired of putting up with this guy. You shrug off the fact that he has caused people to stop coming here, ignore the countless instances where he's hostile towards people for the crime of having an opinion. I can deal with a know it all, he is far worse than a know it all. Keep fighting the good fight saintfan, you know you've got a lot of us in your corner. saintfan, iceshack149, jnormand and 5 others like this.
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02-05-2022, 02:28 PM	#14
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: Holy F** S!!!!!!!!!!!!* The difference I see in the current iteration is threefold. First is that saintfan goes after each and every post Guido puts up. Sometimes multiple posts as followup to a Guido post. Second each and every one is a personal attack at this point. And finally while each seems to be with the intent of driving Guido off the board, it isn't working. And it's not working because Guido has put saintfan on ignore, as many of the others of us has. At this point it's just an annoyance with no purpose other than saintfan having this "scorched earth" campaign. Can you point me to a current thread where Guido is "hostile towards people for the crime of having an opinion"? I've seen previous threads where Guido has gone "La-La-La I'm the Saints sunshine man". But I don't recall seeing this recently. I really feel this is just a situation where a poster just talks a whole bunch and it irritates some people. But what is going on now isn't a solution. Which is why quite a few of us are calling for a stop to the shenanigans. I've actually been taking saintfan off ignore here to read what he's been writing. I understand his frustration. But personally attacking each and every post in each and every thread isn't getting this situation anywhere. SFIAH jnormand and jonnyrotten like this.
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02-05-2022, 04:12 PM	#15
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,299 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Holy F** S!!!!!!!!!!!!* Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Can you point me to a current thread where Guido is "hostile towards people for the crime of having an opinion"? I've seen previous threads where Guido has gone "La-La-La I'm the Saints sunshine man". But I don't recall seeing this recently. SFIAH This is the issue. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yes, petty. You take it as an assault on *you. Brees doesn't give a flying * because he knows it is meaningless in the greater scheme of things. You hang onto it because you are petty. Grow up. You are like a spoiled child. If he doesn't care why should you? Maybe because you are a screaming racist yourself? How dare those darkies dis a white man? Is that it? If not explain why it is so important to you. Originally Posted by iceshack149** I figured that this conversation might head south but calling me a racist is absurd. I expect it from you, though. Come on, Guido. Have a discussion without calling people these awful names for disagreeing with you. You are the poster that says you don't take anything personally and yet you end up being ugly in almost every thread. A leopard can't change its spots and Guido can't help but be an awful person that has ruined many conversations here. saintfan, jnormand, vpheughan and 3 others like this.

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02-05-2022, 04:26 PM	#16
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Holy F** S!!!!!!!!!!!!* Originally Posted by iceshack149 This is the issue. A leopard can't change its spots and Guido can't help but be an awful person that has ruined many conversations here. I believe I have apologized to you for that, iceshack. I will apologize again, however. To be honest that was a dark time for me when that was going on. On top of all that an all out attack was going on against Brees for his apology. You know me. An attack on Brees is an attack on me. It is a weakness I have, my illogical love for all that is Saints.

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02-05-2022, 06:48 PM	#18
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: Holy F** S!!!!!!!!!!!!* Originally Posted by iceshack149 This is the issue. A leopard can't change its spots and Guido can't help but be an awful person that has ruined many conversations here. That's timestamped close to 18 months ago. I did specifically ask for something current. I'm trying to figure out what triggered this current ground assault. SFIAH

02-05-2022, 07:04 PM	#19
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Holy F** S!!!!!!!!!!!!* Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL That's timestamped close to 18 months ago. I did specifically ask for something current. I'm trying to figure out what triggered this current ground assault. SFIAH Maybe your missing the point that this personalized attacking rhetoric has been going on for years (per timestamp) from that user and enough is enough for some folks here... Believe it is your responsibility to answer your own inquiry and to review that user's posts and draw your own conclusions if it's important to you to choose to be fully-informed... saintfan, iceshack149, jnormand and 2 others like this.

02-05-2022, 08:02 PM	#20
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,299 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Holy F** S!!!!!!!!!!!!* Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I believe I have apologized to you for that, iceshack. I will apologize again, however. To be honest that was a dark time for me when that was going on. On top of all that an all out attack was going on against Brees for his apology. You know me. An attack on Brees is an attack on me. It is a weakness I have, my illogical love for all that is Saints. You apologized over a year after calling me an awful name. You left it out there and didn't care that everyone saw it and may have been influenced by it. Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL That's timestamped close to 18 months ago. I did specifically ask for something current. I'm trying to figure out what triggered this current ground assault. SFIAH That's why I said that a leopard can't change its spots. It's not new behavior. It's constant. And honestly, if someone here called you a racist without reason and didn't make an effort to publicly say that they were out of line, will you shrug your shoulders and say that it's not a big deal? That's a move and I'm not quick to get over it. saintfan, jnormand, jeanpierre and 1 others like this.
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Holy F**** S*!!!!!!!!!!!!