Alvin Kamara Arrested

AsylumGuido · 07-18-2022, 12:21 PM

A couple of points to note in this case are that there are four defendants, Kamara and three others and that there are two separate charges being considered, one a misdemeanor and the other a felony. The misdemeanor is for simple assault while the felony deals with serious bodily harm (a fractured orbital). Assault would be fairly straight forward, but to pin the felony charge on Kamara the prosecution would have to prove beyond a shadow of doubt that it was Kamara that fractured that orbital. It is rumored that the video shows Kamara landing eight punches. It is also rumored that the video shows the other defendants kicking and stomping on the head of the alleged victim. It can be suggested that the fracture more likely occurred during the kicking and stomping portion of the encounter.

As the previous interview with Drew Davenport points out, there hasn't been any movement since April with the State still not having brought forth official charges. While it is always prudent to have options in place, I have a feeling a Kamara suspension isn't going to be anything to be addressed this season.

Rugby Saint II · 07-18-2022, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

A couple of points to note in this case are that there are four defendants, Kamara and three others and that there are two separate charges being considered, one a misdemeanor and the other a felony. The misdemeanor is for simple assault while the felony deals with serious bodily harm (a fractured orbital). Assault would be fairly straight forward, but to pin the felony charge on Kamara the prosecution would have to prove beyond a shadow of doubt that it was Kamara that fractured that orbital. It is rumored that the video shows Kamara landing eight punches. It is also rumored that the video shows the other defendants kicking and stomping on the head of the alleged victim. It can be suggested that the fracture more likely occurred during the kicking and stomping portion of the encounter.

As the previous interview with Drew Davenport points out, there hasn't been any movement since April with the State still not having brought forth official charges. While it is always prudent to have options in place, I have a feeling a Kamara suspension isn't going to be anything to be addressed this season.

Hopefully Kamara will not be suspended this season. We would be able to use a draft pick on on Ingram's replacement next year.

Boston Saint · 07-18-2022, 02:23 PM

Def hoping for no suspension! 🤞. Even so, I’m (hopefully unjustifiably) worried. Kamara gets dinged up. He’s not a big back. He’s missed games in all but one season he’s been drafted and plays banged up often. He’s Only had 200 carries once (last year) and averaged under 4.0 YPC. I know the Oline sucked and there were no WRs and the QBs suffered… but AK is another year older and most RBs don’t get better as they get older. Not sure Ingram, JJ, Ozzy and Smith give me confidence as a group. Time will tell.

AsylumGuido · 07-18-2022, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Def hoping for no suspension! 🤞. Even so, I’m (hopefully unjustifiably) worried. Kamara gets dinged up. He’s not a big back. He’s missed games in all but one season he’s been drafted and plays banged up often. He’s Only had 200 carries once (last year) and averaged under 4.0 YPC. I know the Oline sucked and there were no WRs and the QBs suffered… but AK is another year older and most RBs don’t get better as they get older. Not sure Ingram, JJ, Ozzy and Smith give me confidence as a group. Time will tell.

Goes with the territory when discussing RB's. They mostly all get banged up and lose time. That's why they are among the lowest paid position. That said, Kamara is clearly one of the most dangerous players in the league. He is arguably more impactful catching the ball than simply toting the rock. I wouldn't be so concerned with his carries.

saintsfan1976 · 07-18-2022, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Goes with the territory when discussing RB's. They mostly all get banged up and lose time. That's why they are among the lowest paid position. That said, Kamara is clearly one of the most dangerous players in the league. He is arguably more impactful catching the ball than simply toting the rock. I wouldn't be so concerned with his carries.

RBs are not longer the primary feature of most offenses today. That's more likely a reason for their decline in compensation.

jnormand · 07-18-2022, 03:24 PM

It bothers me that he lost his **** and acted like an idiot. I lost a lot of respect for him. I get it if it was self defense, but running the guy down and beating the holy hell out of him with your buddies kicking and stomping on him is pretty cowardly. Just gross.

AsylumGuido · 07-18-2022, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

RBs are not longer the primary feature of most offenses today. That's more likely a reason for their decline in compensation.

This is true, as well. Only a handful of RB's in todays game account for as much offense as does Kamara. Even a big, punishing RB like Henry, 2nd highest paid at $12.5 million per year, with the run centric Titans has been limited in playing time recently. The same with Delvin Cook and Nick Chubb, also both over $12 million.

dizzle88 · 07-18-2022, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

It bothers me that he lost his **** and acted like an idiot. I lost a lot of respect for him. I get it if it was self defense, but running the guy down and beating the holy hell out of him with your buddies kicking and stomping on him is pretty cowardly. Just gross.

Absolutely agree.

That's what society has developed into, he'll be celebrated and admired for his exceptional talent on the field, when the true measure is how you hold yourself in times of adversity.

saintsfan1976 · 07-18-2022, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

It bothers me that he lost his **** and acted like an idiot. I lost a lot of respect for him. I get it if it was self defense, but running the guy down and beating the holy hell out of him with your buddies kicking and stomping on him is pretty cowardly. Just gross.

Agreed. He probably should be suspended and fined.

AsylumGuido · 07-18-2022, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Agreed. He probably should be suspended and fined.

Oh, he'll no doubt be suspended. Not sure what good the fine would do as it is defined by the CBA as pretty much a token amount. The lost game checks will dwarf any fine he could have received.

Yes, what he did was stupid, as was hanging around his "posse" which probably exacerbated the situation. But, I know I did stupid stuff at that young age. I'll bet many of us did. I will withhold a blanket loss of respect until I see how he responds moving forward.

07-18-2022, 12:21 PM	#171
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested A couple of points to note in this case are that there are four defendants, Kamara and three others and that there are two separate charges being considered, one a misdemeanor and the other a felony. The misdemeanor is for simple assault while the felony deals with serious bodily harm (a fractured orbital). Assault would be fairly straight forward, but to pin the felony charge on Kamara the prosecution would have to prove beyond a shadow of doubt that it was Kamara that fractured that orbital. It is rumored that the video shows Kamara landing eight punches. It is also rumored that the video shows the other defendants kicking and stomping on the head of the alleged victim. It can be suggested that the fracture more likely occurred during the kicking and stomping portion of the encounter. As the previous interview with Drew Davenport points out, there hasn't been any movement since April with the State still not having brought forth official charges. While it is always prudent to have options in place, I have a feeling a Kamara suspension isn't going to be anything to be addressed this season. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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07-18-2022, 01:30 PM	#172
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,747	Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested Originally Posted by AsylumGuido A couple of points to note in this case are that there are four defendants, Kamara and three others and that there are two separate charges being considered, one a misdemeanor and the other a felony. The misdemeanor is for simple assault while the felony deals with serious bodily harm (a fractured orbital). Assault would be fairly straight forward, but to pin the felony charge on Kamara the prosecution would have to prove beyond a shadow of doubt that it was Kamara that fractured that orbital. It is rumored that the video shows Kamara landing eight punches. It is also rumored that the video shows the other defendants kicking and stomping on the head of the alleged victim. It can be suggested that the fracture more likely occurred during the kicking and stomping portion of the encounter. As the previous interview with Drew Davenport points out, there hasn't been any movement since April with the State still not having brought forth official charges. While it is always prudent to have options in place, I have a feeling a Kamara suspension isn't going to be anything to be addressed this season. Hopefully Kamara will not be suspended this season. We would be able to use a draft pick on on Ingram's replacement next year. Boston Saint likes this.

07-18-2022, 02:23 PM	#173
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,874	Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested Def hoping for no suspension! 🤞. Even so, I’m (hopefully unjustifiably) worried. Kamara gets dinged up. He’s not a big back. He’s missed games in all but one season he’s been drafted and plays banged up often. He’s Only had 200 carries once (last year) and averaged under 4.0 YPC. I know the Oline sucked and there were no WRs and the QBs suffered… but AK is another year older and most RBs don’t get better as they get older. Not sure Ingram, JJ, Ozzy and Smith give me confidence as a group. Time will tell. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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07-18-2022, 03:04 PM	#174
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested Originally Posted by Boston Saint Def hoping for no suspension! 🤞. Even so, I’m (hopefully unjustifiably) worried. Kamara gets dinged up. He’s not a big back. He’s missed games in all but one season he’s been drafted and plays banged up often. He’s Only had 200 carries once (last year) and averaged under 4.0 YPC. I know the Oline sucked and there were no WRs and the QBs suffered… but AK is another year older and most RBs don’t get better as they get older. Not sure Ingram, JJ, Ozzy and Smith give me confidence as a group. Time will tell. Goes with the territory when discussing RB's. They mostly all get banged up and lose time. That's why they are among the lowest paid position. That said, Kamara is clearly one of the most dangerous players in the league. He is arguably more impactful catching the ball than simply toting the rock. I wouldn't be so concerned with his carries. rezburna likes this.

07-18-2022, 03:21 PM	#175
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,540 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Goes with the territory when discussing RB's. They mostly all get banged up and lose time. That's why they are among the lowest paid position. That said, Kamara is clearly one of the most dangerous players in the league. He is arguably more impactful catching the ball than simply toting the rock. I wouldn't be so concerned with his carries. RBs are not longer the primary feature of most offenses today. That's more likely a reason for their decline in compensation.

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07-18-2022, 03:24 PM	#176
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,530	Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested It bothers me that he lost his **** and acted like an idiot. I lost a lot of respect for him. I get it if it was self defense, but running the guy down and beating the holy hell out of him with your buddies kicking and stomping on him is pretty cowardly. Just gross. iceshack149, Crusader, saintsfan1976 and 3 others like this.

07-18-2022, 03:32 PM	#177
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 RBs are not longer the primary feature of most offenses today. That's more likely a reason for their decline in compensation. This is true, as well. Only a handful of RB's in todays game account for as much offense as does Kamara. Even a big, punishing RB like Henry, 2nd highest paid at $12.5 million per year, with the run centric Titans has been limited in playing time recently. The same with Delvin Cook and Nick Chubb, also both over $12 million.

07-18-2022, 04:00 PM	#178
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested Originally Posted by jnormand It bothers me that he lost his **** and acted like an idiot. I lost a lot of respect for him. I get it if it was self defense, but running the guy down and beating the holy hell out of him with your buddies kicking and stomping on him is pretty cowardly. Just gross. Absolutely agree. That's what society has developed into, he'll be celebrated and admired for his exceptional talent on the field, when the true measure is how you hold yourself in times of adversity. jnormand, SmashMouth and Boston Saint like this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,540 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested Originally Posted by jnormand It bothers me that he lost his **** and acted like an idiot. I lost a lot of respect for him. I get it if it was self defense, but running the guy down and beating the holy hell out of him with your buddies kicking and stomping on him is pretty cowardly. Just gross. Agreed. He probably should be suspended and fined. jnormand and Boston Saint like this.

07-18-2022, 04:31 PM	#180
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Agreed. He probably should be suspended and fined. Oh, he'll no doubt be suspended. Not sure what good the fine would do as it is defined by the CBA as pretty much a token amount. The lost game checks will dwarf any fine he could have received. Yes, what he did was stupid, as was hanging around his "posse" which probably exacerbated the situation. But, I know I did stupid stuff at that young age. I'll bet many of us did. I will withhold a blanket loss of respect until I see how he responds moving forward.