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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Ex-coach Charlie Weis said a few months ago (yes, on XM NFL Radio) that when hiring staff he learned the hard way that only bringing in people you know, yet with no experience with the positions, can be a disaster. ...
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02-10-2022, 09:25 AM | #1 |
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Re: Doug Marrone Back In New Orleans
Ex-coach Charlie Weis said a few months ago (yes, on XM NFL Radio) that when hiring staff he learned the hard way that only bringing in people you know, yet with no experience with the positions, can be a disaster. He also said that bringing in people with experience, but not having a working relationship can also be an issue.
Dennis Allen appears to be bringing in people he knows that also have a great deal of experience. Win/win. |
02-10-2022, 09:50 AM | #2 |
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Re: Doug Marrone Back In New Orleans
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
That hiring philosophy sure as hell didn't work for Charlie Weis in Kansas or ND.
He was a terrible Head Coach. |
02-10-2022, 10:45 AM | #3 |
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Exactly! That was his point, K. He said those were the mistakes he made at Kansas and Notre Dame. They were talking about what he would tell a first time head coach and he pointed out what he did wrong in building staff back then. He didn't use the hiring strategy he is now supporting. Hopefully Dennis Allen has learned from some of his own mistakes the first time around, as well, plus seeing what did and didn't work with Payton.
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02-10-2022, 11:01 AM | #4 |
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Re: Doug Marrone Back In New Orleans
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
Major’s point may be that Why does what Weis have to say matter? Weis is
guessing on WHY HE SUCKED. He says he learned from his mistakes, but where is the evidence of that? When was his last successful NFL season ? |
02-10-2022, 12:10 PM | #5 |
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Re: Doug Marrone Back In New Orleans
Originally Posted by Boston Saint
It doesn't matter who it came from, it just so happens to have come from him. The guest was a coach, as well, I can't remember who, however, and he agreed completely. Weis very well may still have sucked as a head coach, but they both knew his hiring practices were faulty. It is still a truism. Correct? It makes perfect sense, does it not?
Or are you saying it's better to hire coaches who are friends with no experience (what he said he did at Notre Dame)? Are you saying it is better to hire experienced coaches that you have no prior working relationships or understanding of common ways of thinking (what he said he did later at Kansas)? Or are you simply arguing the point just for the sake of arguing? |
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02-10-2022, 07:44 PM | #6 |
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Re: Doug Marrone Back In New Orleans
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
Or are you simply arguing the point just for the sake of arguing?
That's your "SPECIALty" |
02-11-2022, 09:47 AM | #7 |
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I’m not taking sides on the overall issue between saintfan and others against guido. I’m commenting on the remarks in this thread. This thread was going fine with a back and forth of thoughts, ideas, and opinions on the topic. Then you had to do exactly what y’all have vilified guido of doing and that’s try to start an argument. Again, not taking sides because there are points to be made from both as well as negatives to be had on both. But this senseless attempt to start something every time guido says something isn’t working in case y’all haven’t noticed. Unless I missed it he hasn’t taken the bait yet.
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02-11-2022, 09:56 AM | #8 |
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Re: Doug Marrone Back In New Orleans
Originally Posted by jlouhill
Thank you, jlouhill. I was hoping I wasn't the only one noticing. I had put Boston on "ignore" some time back because I was sick of getting into arguments with him over stupid stuff. I took him off my ignore list because, unlike saintfan, he actually posts Saints worthy discussion. But, it's started again.
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02-11-2022, 10:21 AM | #9 |
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Re: Doug Marrone Back In New Orleans
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
It stops when you own it little speedo. Not a scintillia of a second before. Love this board as much as you project? Want peace? Own it.
Maybe create an apology thread wherein you acknowledge your personal attacks and race baiting (might want to change your extremely offensive name) and assure the community you understand your role and pledge to police yourself. You haven't attacked anyone since this started. I know why - because I became your target and you are now using me as your source for ego feeding. See how it works? How 'bout it little man? Swallow that pride speedo. You can do it...or can you? |
C'mon Man...
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02-11-2022, 05:55 PM | #10 |
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Re: Doug Marrone Back In New Orleans
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
So, me commenting that you may have missed Major’s point is an attack now? In other words YOU are allowed to reply and disagree with Major’s point, but if I comment on his point I’m just being argumentative? Feel free to put me back on ignore.
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