Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place

Boston Saint · 02-14-2022, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I’m betting he tries to force a trade. Without a Qb or Payton nobody is going to want to play here. In todays NFL players like Thomas call the shots. He will try and weasel his way onto a team he thinks can get him a ring.
It’s going to be very tough unless we get very lucky like we did with Payton and Brees. I doubt Winston even wants to come back, especially if the Steelers rumors are true.

Hard to see how joining the Steelers would be more likely to win a SB over the Saints. If nothing else you’ve got to face the Ravens, Browns, and Benglas in your division twice a year. That’s murder compared to chickens, panties, and tampon.

K Major · 02-14-2022, 10:35 PM

Will a cap guru explain how you even consider trading Thomas? Per spotrac the dead cap hit would be massive.

Spotrac - https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orle...-thomas-18996/

Why have 3 holes at WR instead of 2? Oh, & what Free Agent QB would be willing to come and play for a team with no WRs?

Another hard sell. Don't see MT going anyplace.

AsylumGuido · 02-15-2022, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Will a cap guru explain how you even consider trading Thomas? Per spotrac the dead cap hit would be massive.

Spotrac - https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orle...-thomas-18996/

Why have 3 holes at WR instead of 2? Oh, & what Free Agent QB would be willing to come and play for a team with no WRs?

Another hard sell. Don't see MT going anyplace.

You just gave them the answer yourself, K. With needing to clear around $76 million to reach the cap limit the chances of trading Michael Thomas is basically zero. It would add an additional $22.7 million in dead money. Cap savings would only be $2 million in 2022 with a pre-June 1 trade.

The Saints are more likely to convert his $15.5 million in base salary and/or his combined $950K in roster and workout bonuses to a signing bonus and free up a chunk toward that $76 million figure. That requires NOT trading him.

So, no, it makes zero sense to even consider trading him either financially or strategically.

Rell&Gold · 02-14-2022, 11:37 PM

Still butthurt over MT not playing LMAO

Rugby Saint II · 02-15-2022, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Still butthurt over MT not playing LMAO

I'm still a little butt hurt too. I just don't like people who aren't team players. They need to play for the WWE, where there are real men who really compete, oh wait....

Rugby Saint II · 02-15-2022, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Still butthurt over MT not playing LMAO

Yes. I'm butt hurt too. I just don't like people who aren't team players. They should wrestle for the WWE, where real men fight and earn their way, oh wait....

Edit: Sorry for the double post. I didn't think it went through.

MatthewT · 02-15-2022, 10:26 AM

Mike is absolutely saying all the right things right now. If that continues, he will likely be with the Saints for a very long time. If he decides to be disruptive, I can assure you the Saints will move on from him and deal with the cap hit.

K Major · 02-15-2022, 11:03 AM

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rezburna · 02-15-2022, 12:07 PM

Michael Thomas was mad at Drew Brees and Sean Payton. Both of whom he mended fences with and both of whom are now gone. Expect a big year from him.

AsylumGuido · 02-15-2022, 02:34 PM

02-14-2022, 09:25 PM	#1
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place Originally Posted by The Dude I’m betting he tries to force a trade. Without a Qb or Payton nobody is going to want to play here. In todays NFL players like Thomas call the shots. He will try and weasel his way onto a team he thinks can get him a ring. It’s going to be very tough unless we get very lucky like we did with Payton and Brees. I doubt Winston even wants to come back, especially if the Steelers rumors are true. Hard to see how joining the Steelers would be more likely to win a SB over the Saints. If nothing else you’ve got to face the Ravens, Browns, and Benglas in your division twice a year. That’s murder compared to chickens, panties, and tampon.

02-14-2022, 10:35 PM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,845 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place Will a cap guru explain how you even consider trading Thomas? Per spotrac the dead cap hit would be massive. Spotrac - https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orle...-thomas-18996/ Why have 3 holes at WR instead of 2? Oh, & what Free Agent QB would be willing to come and play for a team with no WRs? Another hard sell. Don't see MT going anyplace. AsylumGuido likes this.

02-15-2022, 08:22 AM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,762	Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place Originally Posted by K Major Will a cap guru explain how you even consider trading Thomas? Per spotrac the dead cap hit would be massive. Spotrac - https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orle...-thomas-18996/ Why have 3 holes at WR instead of 2? Oh, & what Free Agent QB would be willing to come and play for a team with no WRs? Another hard sell. Don't see MT going anyplace. You just gave them the answer yourself, K. With needing to clear around $76 million to reach the cap limit the chances of trading Michael Thomas is basically zero. It would add an additional $22.7 million in dead money. Cap savings would only be $2 million in 2022 with a pre-June 1 trade. The Saints are more likely to convert his $15.5 million in base salary and/or his combined $950K in roster and workout bonuses to a signing bonus and free up a chunk toward that $76 million figure. That requires NOT trading him. So, no, it makes zero sense to even consider trading him either financially or strategically.
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02-14-2022, 11:37 PM	#4
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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,198	Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Still butthurt over MT not playing LMAO I'm still a little butt hurt too. I just don't like people who aren't team players. They need to play for the WWE, where there are real men who really compete, oh wait.... subguy, MatthewT and saintsfan1976 like this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,198	Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Still butthurt over MT not playing LMAO Yes. I'm butt hurt too. I just don't like people who aren't team players. They should wrestle for the WWE, where real men fight and earn their way, oh wait.... Edit: Sorry for the double post. I didn't think it went through. jnormand and saintsfan1976 like this.

02-15-2022, 10:26 AM	#7
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place Mike is absolutely saying all the right things right now. If that continues, he will likely be with the Saints for a very long time. If he decides to be disruptive, I can assure you the Saints will move on from him and deal with the cap hit. Boston Saint likes this.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,120	Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place Michael Thomas was mad at Drew Brees and Sean Payton. Both of whom he mended fences with and both of whom are now gone. Expect a big year from him. Crusader and AsylumGuido like this.

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