Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option

K Major · 03-08-2022, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

Aaron Rodgers and now Russell Wilson have no chance at happening. I wonder if the Saints had any chance at Wilson, the Saints could have easily matched Denver's offer, I have to assume Seattle wanted no part of Wilson staying in the NFC. Winston's market may have just expanded a bit too, now Seattle needs a replacement for Wilson.

The Broncos gave up 2 1st round picks, 2 2nd round picks, a 5th, Drew Lock & one other (Noah Fant) player.

IMO that's a lot & can cripple a franchise for years. Let's check back on Denver in a year or two.

Saints have too many other things to address.

SmashMouth · 03-08-2022, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

The Broncos gave up 2 1st round picks, 2 2nd round picks, a 5th, Drew Lock & one other (Noah Fant) player.

IMO that's a lot & can cripple a franchise for years. Let's check back on Denver in a year or two.

Saints have too many other things to address.

I was thinking the same thing. The days of a Brett Farve trade for a #2 are way over. Salaries are super out of hand. And don't think Gambling Interests won't interject in some way with many of these player movements. Just projecting with the betting lines out there. And they have some silly bets out there for the stupidest things.

AsylumGuido · 03-08-2022, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

I was thinking the same thing. The days of a Brett Farve trade for a #2 are way over. Salaries are super out of hand. And don't think Gambling Interests won't interject in some way with many of these player movements. Just projecting with the betting lines out there. And they have some silly bets out there for the stupidest things.

Prop bets have been a thing since long before the gambling industry ever became NFL corporate sponsors. You could bet on the winner of the coin toss or the duration of the National Anthem, et al, for decades.

On the salary front, while player pay appears be growing at a tremendous rate, it is the essentially same ratio of the overall cap as it has been all along. That is, as we all know, mandated by the CBA. If revenues increase by 15% per year the cap is mandated to increase by the same percentage and total salaries, in turn, are forced to keep pace. In relative terms the players are being paid basically the same rate as they were 30 years ago.

saintfan · 03-08-2022, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Prop bets have been a thing since long before the gambling industry ever became NFL corporate sponsors. You could bet on the winner of the coin toss or the duration of the National Anthem, et al, for decades.

On the salary front, while player pay appears be growing at a tremendous rate, it is the essentially same ratio of the overall cap as it has been all along. That is, as we all know, mandated by the CBA. If revenues increase by 15% per year the cap is mandated to increase by the same percentage and total salaries, in turn, are forced to keep pace. In relative terms the players are being paid basically the same rate as they were 30 years ago.

So know you're a gaming expert too? I bet you don't have a clue. How 'bout that bet? Bah hahahaha.

If we "all know", then why on Earth do you insist on posting it here? To make yourself feel valid? In relative terms you're no smarter now than the last tweet you stole. I bet your poor mirror wants a divorce...

TheKillerBs · 03-09-2022, 08:56 AM

I feel like our biggest competition for FA QB's is going to be Pittsburgh, at this point. Best case scenario, we get Winston or Bridgewater back. It will be really interesting to see what we can even do with our cap situation.

(Hey, everybody, not sure if you remember me, but I'm back after a lengthy absence. Couldn't take dealing with the dumb facebook fans anymore.)

saintfan · 03-09-2022, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by TheKillerBs

I feel like our biggest competition for FA QB's is going to be Pittsburgh, at this point. Best case scenario, we get Winston or Bridgewater back. It will be really interesting to see what we can even do with our cap situation.

(Hey, everybody, not sure if you remember me, but I'm back after a lengthy absence. Couldn't take dealing with the dumb facebook fans anymore.)

Welcome back!

TheKillerBs · 03-09-2022, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Welcome back!

Thank you!

AsylumGuido · 03-09-2022, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by TheKillerBs

I feel like our biggest competition for FA QB's is going to be Pittsburgh, at this point. Best case scenario, we get Winston or Bridgewater back. It will be really interesting to see what we can even do with our cap situation.

(Hey, everybody, not sure if you remember me, but I'm back after a lengthy absence. Couldn't take dealing with the dumb facebook fans anymore.)

I could never forget your avatar. One of my all-time favorite movies. The kind that you are forced to watch from whatever point it is at when you come across it while flipping through channels.

And, yeah, I'd be shocked if we don't work something out with Winston. It would be the best scenario for both parties.

saintfan · 03-09-2022, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I could never forget your avatar. One of my all-time favorite movies. The kind that you are forced to watch from whatever point it is at when you come across it while flipping through channels.

And, yeah, I'd be shocked if we don't work something out with Winston. It would be the best scenario for both parties.

How do you know this? Someone could make Jameis a better financial offer. Better for him. You throw around your opinion as if it's fact - still - NPD...little speedo strikes again!

K Major · 03-09-2022, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I could never forget your avatar. One of my all-time favorite movies. The kind that you are forced to watch from whatever point it is at when you come across it while flipping through channels.

And, yeah, I'd be shocked if we don't work something out with Winston. It would be the best scenario for both parties.

Unless Jimmy G is more appealing to the Saints front office & coaching staff than Winston.

This is the NFL. Prepare for the unexpected.

03-08-2022, 02:20 PM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by MatthewT Aaron Rodgers and now Russell Wilson have no chance at happening. I wonder if the Saints had any chance at Wilson, the Saints could have easily matched Denver's offer, I have to assume Seattle wanted no part of Wilson staying in the NFC. Winston's market may have just expanded a bit too, now Seattle needs a replacement for Wilson. The Broncos gave up 2 1st round picks, 2 2nd round picks, a 5th, Drew Lock & one other (Noah Fant) player. IMO that's a lot & can cripple a franchise for years. Let's check back on Denver in a year or two. Saints have too many other things to address. saintfan, MatthewT, saintsfan1976 and 4 others like this.

03-08-2022, 04:30 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by SmashMouth I was thinking the same thing. The days of a Brett Farve trade for a #2 are way over. Salaries are super out of hand. And don't think Gambling Interests won't interject in some way with many of these player movements. Just projecting with the betting lines out there. And they have some silly bets out there for the stupidest things. Prop bets have been a thing since long before the gambling industry ever became NFL corporate sponsors. You could bet on the winner of the coin toss or the duration of the National Anthem, et al, for decades. On the salary front, while player pay appears be growing at a tremendous rate, it is the essentially same ratio of the overall cap as it has been all along. That is, as we all know, mandated by the CBA. If revenues increase by 15% per year the cap is mandated to increase by the same percentage and total salaries, in turn, are forced to keep pace. In relative terms the players are being paid basically the same rate as they were 30 years ago.
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03-08-2022, 04:33 PM	#4
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Prop bets have been a thing since long before the gambling industry ever became NFL corporate sponsors. You could bet on the winner of the coin toss or the duration of the National Anthem, et al, for decades. On the salary front, while player pay appears be growing at a tremendous rate, it is the essentially same ratio of the overall cap as it has been all along. That is, as we all know, mandated by the CBA. If revenues increase by 15% per year the cap is mandated to increase by the same percentage and total salaries, in turn, are forced to keep pace. In relative terms the players are being paid basically the same rate as they were 30 years ago. So know you're a gaming expert too? I bet you don't have a clue. How 'bout that bet? Bah hahahaha. If we "all know", then why on Earth do you insist on posting it here? To make yourself feel valid? In relative terms you're no smarter now than the last tweet you stole. I bet your poor mirror wants a divorce...

03-09-2022, 08:56 AM	#5
TheKillerBs Thread Killer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hammond, LA Posts: 366	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option I feel like our biggest competition for FA QB's is going to be Pittsburgh, at this point. Best case scenario, we get Winston or Bridgewater back. It will be really interesting to see what we can even do with our cap situation. (Hey, everybody, not sure if you remember me, but I'm back after a lengthy absence. Couldn't take dealing with the dumb facebook fans anymore.) MatthewT, saintsfan1976 and Boston Saint like this.

03-09-2022, 09:46 AM	#6
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by TheKillerBs I feel like our biggest competition for FA QB's is going to be Pittsburgh, at this point. Best case scenario, we get Winston or Bridgewater back. It will be really interesting to see what we can even do with our cap situation. (Hey, everybody, not sure if you remember me, but I'm back after a lengthy absence. Couldn't take dealing with the dumb facebook fans anymore.) Welcome back! TheKillerBs likes this.

03-08-2022, 03:15 PM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,477 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by K Major The Broncos gave up 2 1st round picks, 2 2nd round picks, a 5th, Drew Lock & one other (Noah Fant) player. IMO that's a lot & can cripple a franchise for years. Let's check back on Denver in a year or two. Saints have too many other things to address. I was thinking the same thing. The days of a Brett Farve trade for a #2 are way over. Salaries are super out of hand. And don't think Gambling Interests won't interject in some way with many of these player movements. Just projecting with the betting lines out there. And they have some silly bets out there for the stupidest things. saintfan likes this.

03-09-2022, 09:48 AM	#7
TheKillerBs Thread Killer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hammond, LA Posts: 366	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by saintfan Welcome back! Thank you!

03-09-2022, 01:37 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by TheKillerBs I feel like our biggest competition for FA QB's is going to be Pittsburgh, at this point. Best case scenario, we get Winston or Bridgewater back. It will be really interesting to see what we can even do with our cap situation. (Hey, everybody, not sure if you remember me, but I'm back after a lengthy absence. Couldn't take dealing with the dumb facebook fans anymore.) I could never forget your avatar. One of my all-time favorite movies. The kind that you are forced to watch from whatever point it is at when you come across it while flipping through channels. And, yeah, I'd be shocked if we don't work something out with Winston. It would be the best scenario for both parties. TheKillerBs likes this.

03-09-2022, 01:42 PM	#9
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I could never forget your avatar. One of my all-time favorite movies. The kind that you are forced to watch from whatever point it is at when you come across it while flipping through channels. And, yeah, I'd be shocked if we don't work something out with Winston. It would be the best scenario for both parties. How do you know this? Someone could make Jameis a better financial offer. Better for him. You throw around your opinion as if it's fact - still - NPD...little speedo strikes again! K Major likes this.

03-09-2022, 01:47 PM	#10
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I could never forget your avatar. One of my all-time favorite movies. The kind that you are forced to watch from whatever point it is at when you come across it while flipping through channels. And, yeah, I'd be shocked if we don't work something out with Winston. It would be the best scenario for both parties. Unless Jimmy G is more appealing to the Saints front office & coaching staff than Winston. This is the NFL. Prepare for the unexpected. saintfan and MatthewT like this.

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