Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option

saintsfan1976 · 02-17-2022, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by Thirty3

roflol. If Winston is the qb - the joke is on us.

5-2 with a high QBR. If you're LOL'ing, you're missing the reality of what he could bring in a full season.

AsylumGuido · 02-17-2022, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

5-2 with a high QBR. If you're LOL'ing, you're missing the reality of what he could bring in a full season.

There seems to be certain segments of the public that refuse to judge Winston on his football abilities for whatever reason. I think it goes way back to his college days.

saintfan · 02-17-2022, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

There seems to be certain segments of the public that refuse to judge Winston on his football abilities for whatever reason. I think it goes way back to his college days.

Here you go, race baiting again.

Please define 'certain segments' Mr Race Baiter.

Do you think people actually judge him for his performance? And do they have any reason to believe he's not the answer, or are you going to call people racist outright. Your history here as a race baiter is the reason for this response, in the event your NPD precludes you from understanding.

STOP IT. RIGHT NOW!

K Major · 02-17-2022, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by Thirty3

roflol. If Winston is the qb - the joke is on us.

What would be your Plan @ QB for 2022? Let's assume JW signs elsewhere.

Wentz? Trubisky? Trade for Porn Star Jimmy? Trevor Semian (UFA) ?

As 76 eluded to earlier, JW was a winner in New Orleans. 5-2 with scrubs at WR. Imagine how many more games we win if he doesn't tear his ACL.

I just don't see ARod, Desean W or Russ W walking through those doors on Metairie Dr.

saintfan · 02-17-2022, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

What would be your Plan @ QB for 2022? Let's assume JW signs elsewhere.

Wentz? Trubisky? Trade for Porn Star Jimmy? Trevor Semian (UFA) ?

As 76 eluded to earlier, JW was a winner in New Orleans. 5-2 with scrubs at WR. Imagine how many more games we win if he doesn't tear his ACL.

I just don't see ARod, Desean W or Russ W walking through those doors on Metairie Dr.

Not with our oline and lack of WRs that's to be sure. I can't say, but I'm wondering if that's why Pete is going to be our OC.

K Major · 02-17-2022, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Not with our oline and lack of WRs that's to be sure. I can't say, but I'm wondering if that's why Pete is going to be our OC.

I really believe the X factor in 2022 will be Dougie M as O line coach. He's old school and won't sugar coat bad play (Ruiz, Peat). Produce, play at a high level or have a seat. I will say Peat is good at run blocking but Cesar needs a lot of work. Wasn't impressed at center OR guard. The "whiffing" put our QBs/RB in bad spots in a lot of games.

Don't rule out the Saints drafting another interior lineman (mid rounds) either.

saintfan · 02-17-2022, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I really believe the X factor in 2022 will be Dougie M as O line coach. He's old school and won't sugar coat bad play (Ruiz, Peat). Produce, play at a high level or have a seat. I will say Peat is good at run blocking but Cesar needs a lot of work. Wasn't impressed at center OR guard. The "whiffing" put our QBs/RB in bad spots in a lot of games.

Don't rule out the Saints drafting another interior lineman (mid rounds) either.

I wouldn't be mad if we used multiple picks up front. We were bad before all the injuries/covid across the line.

AsylumGuido · 02-17-2022, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

There seems to be certain segments of the public that refuse to judge Winston on his football abilities for whatever reason. I think it goes way back to his college days.

Can someone please explain to me why this is race baiting?

There are most certainly persons that cannot ignore Winston's immaturity issues while at FSU as I alluded. He's never been given a fair shake because of the crab leg and student union incident. Yeah, it was dumb, but the guy is still a pretty damned good NFL QB when given the chance. And, yeah, there were the lawsuits claiming sexual assault while at the same college. Not a good optic, for sure. But that was all in the past. The guy is a good QB.

saintfan · 02-17-2022, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Can someone please explain to me why this is race baiting? There are most certainly persons that cannot ignore Winston's immaturity issues while at FSU as I alluded. He's never been given a fair shake because of the crab leg and student union incident. Yeah, it was dumb, but the guy is still a pretty damned good NFL QB when given the chance. And, yeah, there were the lawsuits claiming sexual assault while at the same college. Not a good optic, for sure. But that was all in the past. The guy is a good QB.

Your history of race baiting - which you have done on multiple occasions on this and other topics - which you gloss over and use the excuse "I was going through a difficult time" and call that bullshinski an 'apology'. Nobody cares. That's why, and if you have a problem you can easily PM me rather than involve the board, unless, of course, you're simply trying (again) to be a victim.

Given your history, maybe you should consider your words very carefully rather than "alluding" (read: excuse) before you try and slip in yet another race baiting post.

Boston Saint · 02-17-2022, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Can someone please explain to me why this is race baiting? There are most certainly persons that cannot ignore Winston's immaturity issues while at FSU as I alluded. He's never been given a fair shake because of the crab leg and student union incident. Yeah, it was dumb, but the guy is still a pretty damned good NFL QB when given the chance. And, yeah, there were the lawsuits claiming sexual assault while at the same college. Not a good optic, for sure. But that was all in the past. The guy is a good QB.

I’ll give you the same response you gave me when I tried to understand/defend against the criticism you leveled at me: “Not gonna get into this with you Guido”.

02-17-2022, 01:36 PM	#11
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by Thirty3 roflol. If Winston is the qb - the joke is on us. 5-2 with a high QBR. If you're LOL'ing, you're missing the reality of what he could bring in a full season. leilung and AsylumGuido like this.

02-17-2022, 01:40 PM	#12
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 5-2 with a high QBR. If you're LOL'ing, you're missing the reality of what he could bring in a full season. There seems to be certain segments of the public that refuse to judge Winston on his football abilities for whatever reason. I think it goes way back to his college days.

02-17-2022, 01:59 PM	#13
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by AsylumGuido There seems to be certain segments of the public that refuse to judge Winston on his football abilities for whatever reason. I think it goes way back to his college days. Here you go, race baiting again. Please define 'certain segments' Mr Race Baiter. Do you think people actually judge him for his performance? And do they have any reason to believe he's not the answer, or are you going to call people racist outright. Your history here as a race baiter is the reason for this response, in the event your NPD precludes you from understanding. STOP IT. RIGHT NOW! MatthewT likes this.

02-17-2022, 02:26 PM	#14
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by Thirty3 roflol. If Winston is the qb - the joke is on us. What would be your Plan @ QB for 2022? Let's assume JW signs elsewhere. Wentz? Trubisky? Trade for Porn Star Jimmy? Trevor Semian (UFA) ? As 76 eluded to earlier, JW was a winner in New Orleans. 5-2 with scrubs at WR. Imagine how many more games we win if he doesn't tear his ACL. I just don't see ARod, Desean W or Russ W walking through those doors on Metairie Dr. leilung and Boston Saint like this.

02-17-2022, 02:29 PM	#15
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by K Major What would be your Plan @ QB for 2022? Let's assume JW signs elsewhere. Wentz? Trubisky? Trade for Porn Star Jimmy? Trevor Semian (UFA) ? As 76 eluded to earlier, JW was a winner in New Orleans. 5-2 with scrubs at WR. Imagine how many more games we win if he doesn't tear his ACL. I just don't see ARod, Desean W or Russ W walking through those doors on Metairie Dr. Not with our oline and lack of WRs that's to be sure. I can't say, but I'm wondering if that's why Pete is going to be our OC.

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02-17-2022, 02:38 PM	#16
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by saintfan Not with our oline and lack of WRs that's to be sure. I can't say, but I'm wondering if that's why Pete is going to be our OC. I really believe the X factor in 2022 will be Dougie M as O line coach. He's old school and won't sugar coat bad play (Ruiz, Peat). Produce, play at a high level or have a seat. I will say Peat is good at run blocking but Cesar needs a lot of work. Wasn't impressed at center OR guard. The "whiffing" put our QBs/RB in bad spots in a lot of games. Don't rule out the Saints drafting another interior lineman (mid rounds) either. Boston Saint likes this.

02-17-2022, 02:49 PM	#17
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by K Major I really believe the X factor in 2022 will be Dougie M as O line coach. He's old school and won't sugar coat bad play (Ruiz, Peat). Produce, play at a high level or have a seat. I will say Peat is good at run blocking but Cesar needs a lot of work. Wasn't impressed at center OR guard. The "whiffing" put our QBs/RB in bad spots in a lot of games. Don't rule out the Saints drafting another interior lineman (mid rounds) either. I wouldn't be mad if we used multiple picks up front. We were bad before all the injuries/covid across the line. K Major likes this.

02-17-2022, 02:57 PM	#18
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by AsylumGuido There seems to be certain segments of the public that refuse to judge Winston on his football abilities for whatever reason. I think it goes way back to his college days. Can someone please explain to me why this is race baiting? There are most certainly persons that cannot ignore Winston's immaturity issues while at FSU as I alluded. He's never been given a fair shake because of the crab leg and student union incident. Yeah, it was dumb, but the guy is still a pretty damned good NFL QB when given the chance. And, yeah, there were the lawsuits claiming sexual assault while at the same college. Not a good optic, for sure. But that was all in the past. The guy is a good QB.

02-17-2022, 03:00 PM	#19
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Can someone please explain to me why this is race baiting? There are most certainly persons that cannot ignore Winston's immaturity issues while at FSU as I alluded. He's never been given a fair shake because of the crab leg and student union incident. Yeah, it was dumb, but the guy is still a pretty damned good NFL QB when given the chance. And, yeah, there were the lawsuits claiming sexual assault while at the same college. Not a good optic, for sure. But that was all in the past. The guy is a good QB. Your history of race baiting - which you have done on multiple occasions on this and other topics - which you gloss over and use the excuse "I was going through a difficult time" and call that bullshinski an 'apology'. Nobody cares. That's why, and if you have a problem you can easily PM me rather than involve the board, unless, of course, you're simply trying (again) to be a victim. Given your history, maybe you should consider your words very carefully rather than "alluding" (read: excuse) before you try and slip in yet another race baiting post.

02-17-2022, 03:07 PM	#20
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Can someone please explain to me why this is race baiting? There are most certainly persons that cannot ignore Winston's immaturity issues while at FSU as I alluded. He's never been given a fair shake because of the crab leg and student union incident. Yeah, it was dumb, but the guy is still a pretty damned good NFL QB when given the chance. And, yeah, there were the lawsuits claiming sexual assault while at the same college. Not a good optic, for sure. But that was all in the past. The guy is a good QB. I’ll give you the same response you gave me when I tried to understand/defend against the criticism you leveled at me: “Not gonna get into this with you Guido”. MatthewT likes this.