Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option

AsylumGuido · 02-22-2022, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by Crusader

I think that part in bold is important, it takes time to get comfortable in a new system. I would also add the fact that he seems to be very liked by his teammates on the Saints. Sometimes that stuff is more important than earing another 200K on a different team.

And knowing the playbook is only part of it. With Carmichael still in place as the OC the actual terminology should be the same. I have heard many a QB say that the most difficult part of transitioning to another system, whether with another team or with the change of systems with the same team, is mastering the new terminology. And this is coming from very intelligent individuals.

saintfan · 02-22-2022, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And knowing the playbook is only part of it. With Carmichael still in place as the OC the actual terminology should be the same. I have heard many a QB say that the most difficult part of transitioning to another system, whether with another team or with the change of systems with the same team, is mastering the new terminology. And this is coming from very intelligent individuals.

How would you know how 'intelligent' they are? You, for example, have a degree. I know this because you've made it a point to let us all know on more than a few occasions. But you're not very smart without twitter. So, how would you know?

halloween 65 · 02-22-2022, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Everyone asking whether Winston is the best option for the starting QB job in New Orleans but I have not seen one question regarding whether New Orleans in its present condition is the best option for Jameis Winston.

The guy is a free agent and arguably the best free-agent on the market, why does he want to come here? Money... Head coach.... Good receiving corps.... A notable talent to develop him.... Stop me when I hit on something we presently have that other options do not.

I can agree with your post. I think he still signs here to stick it to Tampa, not the only reason, but a win over them with him under C has to feel good mentally if nothing else. I doubt he would ever say it, but.

K Major · 02-22-2022, 09:59 AM

Guess we'll see.

Scratch off Desean W, ARod, Jimmy G & Russ. Not realistic options.

Just to give you an idea of QBs that will hit the market in Free Agency:

Andy Dalton, Tyrod Taylor, Geno Smith, Old man Joe Flacco, Fig Newton, 2Glove Teddy, Mariota, Trubisquit, & the Harvard Guy (Fitz).

PLAN B could get mediocre to ugly if JW signs elsewhere.

Crusader · 02-22-2022, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Andy Dalton, Tyrod Taylor, Geno Smith, Old man Joe Flacco, Fig Newton, 2Glove Teddy, Mariota, Trubisquit, & the Harvard Guy (Fitz).

From that group I'd only bring in Teddy!

rezburna · 02-22-2022, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by Crusader

From that group I'd only bring in Teddy!

If Payton was still here I’d try out Mariota.

Boston Saint · 02-22-2022, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

If Payton was still here I’d try out Mariota.

I always liked Fitzpatrick. But he’s coming off an injury, isn’t he ?

iceshack149 · 02-22-2022, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I always liked Fitzpatrick. But he’s coming off an injury, isn’t he ?

Yeah. And he's about as old as we are, Boston.

K Major · 02-22-2022, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

If Payton was still here I’d try out Mariota.

Now that Payton is "semi retired" & out of those coaching meetings, do you see Dennis/Pete C continue to move forward with Taysom as the "Joker" type in this offense?

jnormand · 02-22-2022, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Now that Payton is "semi retired" & out of those coaching meetings, do you see Dennis/Pete C continue to move forward with Taysom as the "Joker" type in this offense?

An interesting question K. They have to do something with him. Doubt he gets cut or traded.

I just wonder if they're as high on him as a possible QB as Payton was. If not, can they use him like Payton did in that joker role?

The guy is an athlete. idk. Make him a TE or a RB or something if he's not gonna be a QB. Lol.

I'm sure he'll see the field one way or another. No way they're gonna pay him that coin to sit the bench and be a #2 QB.

02-22-2022, 08:24 AM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by Crusader I think that part in bold is important, it takes time to get comfortable in a new system. I would also add the fact that he seems to be very liked by his teammates on the Saints. Sometimes that stuff is more important than earing another 200K on a different team. And knowing the playbook is only part of it. With Carmichael still in place as the OC the actual terminology should be the same. I have heard many a QB say that the most difficult part of transitioning to another system, whether with another team or with the change of systems with the same team, is mastering the new terminology. And this is coming from very intelligent individuals. Crusader and Rugby Saint II like this.

02-22-2022, 09:48 AM	#3
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by TheOak Everyone asking whether Winston is the best option for the starting QB job in New Orleans but I have not seen one question regarding whether New Orleans in its present condition is the best option for Jameis Winston. The guy is a free agent and arguably the best free-agent on the market, why does he want to come here? Money... Head coach.... Good receiving corps.... A notable talent to develop him.... Stop me when I hit on something we presently have that other options do not. I can agree with your post. I think he still signs here to stick it to Tampa, not the only reason, but a win over them with him under C has to feel good mentally if nothing else. I doubt he would ever say it, but. Crusader likes this.

02-22-2022, 09:59 AM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,830 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Guess we'll see. Scratch off Desean W, ARod, Jimmy G & Russ. Not realistic options. Just to give you an idea of QBs that will hit the market in Free Agency: Andy Dalton, Tyrod Taylor, Geno Smith, Old man Joe Flacco, Fig Newton, 2Glove Teddy, Mariota, Trubisquit, & the Harvard Guy (Fitz). PLAN B could get mediocre to ugly if JW signs elsewhere.

02-22-2022, 10:12 AM	#5
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,044	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by K Major Andy Dalton, Tyrod Taylor, Geno Smith, Old man Joe Flacco, Fig Newton, 2Glove Teddy, Mariota, Trubisquit, & the Harvard Guy (Fitz). From that group I'd only bring in Teddy! halloween 65 and K Major like this.

02-22-2022, 11:23 AM	#6
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,094	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by Crusader From that group I'd only bring in Teddy! If Payton was still here I’d try out Mariota.

02-22-2022, 09:46 AM	#2
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And knowing the playbook is only part of it. With Carmichael still in place as the OC the actual terminology should be the same. I have heard many a QB say that the most difficult part of transitioning to another system, whether with another team or with the change of systems with the same team, is mastering the new terminology. And this is coming from very intelligent individuals. How would you know how 'intelligent' they are? You, for example, have a degree. I know this because you've made it a point to let us all know on more than a few occasions. But you're not very smart without twitter. So, how would you know?

02-22-2022, 11:38 AM	#7
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by rezburna If Payton was still here I’d try out Mariota. I always liked Fitzpatrick. But he’s coming off an injury, isn’t he ?

02-22-2022, 12:35 PM	#8
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,406 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by Boston Saint I always liked Fitzpatrick. But he’s coming off an injury, isn’t he ? Yeah. And he's about as old as we are, Boston. jnormand and Boston Saint like this.

02-22-2022, 02:12 PM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,830 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by rezburna If Payton was still here I’d try out Mariota. Now that Payton is "semi retired" & out of those coaching meetings, do you see Dennis/Pete C continue to move forward with Taysom as the "Joker" type in this offense?

02-22-2022, 03:46 PM	#10
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,759	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by K Major Now that Payton is "semi retired" & out of those coaching meetings, do you see Dennis/Pete C continue to move forward with Taysom as the "Joker" type in this offense? An interesting question K. They have to do something with him. Doubt he gets cut or traded. I just wonder if they're as high on him as a possible QB as Payton was. If not, can they use him like Payton did in that joker role? The guy is an athlete. idk. Make him a TE or a RB or something if he's not gonna be a QB. Lol. I'm sure he'll see the field one way or another. No way they're gonna pay him that coin to sit the bench and be a #2 QB.

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