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BakoSaint 03-18-2022 12:13 PM

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 
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Originally Posted by TheKillerBs (Post 947923)
We still have Marquez Callaway, also. He's not bad. Better than anyone the Falcons have right now, minus Calvin Ridley, who may be in NFL jail the rest of his life.

Oh yeah Calloway. He is ok too, like Harris. The point is that those guys are #4 or #5 options on many playoff contenders, and if they are our #1 and #2 we have problems and won't be consistent. Plus they are human and miss games, and then if MT pulls an MT, we have Little Johnson Howard and Adam Troutman as our top threats and we maybe don't score any points. Its great that we have better receivers than Atlanta, but neither being #31 or #32 in the NFL in receiver core quality is good for getting value out of a QB you sell the farm for, and I don't trust Michael Thomas to be there.

saintsfan1976 03-18-2022 12:14 PM

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 
More assumptions being made about how players feel...

It was reported plenty of players on our own team were actively recruiting Watson. I think they all want to win and want the best players around them.

K Major 03-18-2022 12:51 PM

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 947932)

It was reported plenty of players on our own team were actively recruiting Watson. I think they all want to win and want the best players around them.

Very fair & I can understand their position however I think this courtship with Desean needs to end. The Saints brass & coaches went up to discuss real options with DW to join a winning culture/organization but he contacted our worst rival to see if they had a position in all of this ??

Now enter Matty Icy hot to the equation, they are stalling to find a suitor for him. ATL is a bottom (Houston 2.0) tier team, no WR, no O line, no RB, no defense & a shaky HC but he needs the weekend to "think about it" ?

Saints got a top 7 defense, weapons on offense, All Pro on the line , basically a ready to win now team ... if you really want to "win", this is a EASY choice.

I say it's time to move on. Go find a QB to who wants to be here, use the 30M and find more dawgs at WR/OL/depth pieces & help us get back to where we want to be in late January.

Enough is enough with Desean's camp, his emotions and the stalling shenanigans.

End rant :bng:

saintfan 03-18-2022 12:54 PM

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 947933)
Very fair & I can understand their position however I think this courtship with Desean needs to end. The Saints brass & coaches went up to discuss real options with DW to join a winning culture/organization but he contacted our worst rival to see if they had a position in all of this ??

Now enter Matty Icy hot to the equation, they are stalling to find a suitor for him. ATL is a bottom (Houston 2.0) tier team, no WR, no O line, no RB, no defense & a shaky HC but he needs the weekend to "think about it" ?

Saints got a top 7 defense, weapons on offense, All Pro on the line , basically a ready to win now team ... if you really want to "win", this is a EASY choice.

I say it's time to move on. Go find a QB to who wants to be here, use the 30M and find more dawgs at WR/OL/depth pieces & help us get back to where we want to be in late January.

Enough is enough with Desean's camp, his emotions and the stalling shenanigans.

End rant :bng:

I want him here. But the good news is that as depleted at the dirty birds are, what they'll give up to get him will guarantee they'll suck for the next few years, so there's that.

If they're just waiting on the timing from Atlanta the right thing to do is reach out to us and let us know it's done so we can move on.

ChrisXVI 03-18-2022 01:01 PM

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 947933)
Very fair & I can understand their position however I think this courtship with Desean needs to end. The Saints brass & coaches went up to discuss real options with DW to join a winning culture/organization but he contacted our worst rival to see if they had a position in all of this ??

Now enter Matty Icy hot to the equation, they are stalling to find a suitor for him. ATL is a bottom (Houston 2.0) tier team, no WR, no O line, no RB, no defense & a shaky HC but he needs the weekend to "think about it" ?

Saints got a top 7 defense, weapons on offense, All Pro on the line , basically a ready to win now team ... if you really want to "win", this is a EASY choice.

I say it's time to move on. Go find a QB to who wants to be here, use the 30M and find more dawgs at WR/OL/depth pieces & help us get back to where we want to be in late January.

Enough is enough with Desean's camp, his emotions and the stalling shenanigans.

End rant :bng:

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Mr.Riaton 03-18-2022 01:04 PM

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 947933)
Very fair & I can understand their position however I think this courtship with Desean needs to end. The Saints brass & coaches went up to discuss real options with DW to join a winning culture/organization but he contacted our worst rival to see if they had a position in all of this ??

Now enter Matty Icy hot to the equation, they are stalling to find a suitor for him. ATL is a bottom (Houston 2.0) tier team, no WR, no O line, no RB, no defense & a shaky HC but he needs the weekend to "think about it" ?

Saints got a top 7 defense, weapons on offense, All Pro on the line , basically a ready to win now team ... if you really want to "win", this is a EASY choice.

I say it's time to move on. Go find a QB to who wants to be here, use the 30M and find more dawgs at WR/OL/depth pieces & help us get back to where we want to be in late January.

Enough is enough with Desean's camp, his emotions and the stalling shenanigans.

End rant :bng:


I agree with you and several other people here....I’d love a franchise QB but I think it’s time to move on and utilize FA while there’s still quality guys there. Add in the draft with all the picks we saved and move forward.
Re-sign Winston or Minshew, grab a couple WR, o line depth and defense help where needed and I think we at least get into playoffs. Anything else can be addressed next year. Can’t have it all in one offseason...Rome wasn’t built in a day

AsylumGuido 03-18-2022 01:05 PM

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 947931)
Oh yeah Calloway. He is ok too, like Harris. The point is that those guys are #4 or #5 options on many playoff contenders, and if they are our #1 and #2 we have problems and won't be consistent. Plus they are human and miss games, and then if MT pulls an MT, we have Little Johnson Howard and Adam Troutman as our top threats and we maybe don't score any points. Its great that we have better receivers than Atlanta, but neither being #31 or #32 in the NFL in receiver core quality is good for getting value out of a QB you sell the farm for, and I don't trust Michael Thomas to be there.

Michael Thomas was very durable for his first four seasons. It wasn't until the ankle injury that he played through in 2020 than he missed any significant time. There's no history that would indicate that he would not return to his normal dependable self once he returns to the field.

AsylumGuido 03-18-2022 01:09 PM

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 
We really have no idea what or who is holding things up right now. It could be Houston or one of the trade partners getting all of the "i's" dotted and "t's" crossed. There may need to be some pre-trade restructuring required. Watson may have already gave his consent on the no-trade clause.

Or not.

K Major 03-18-2022 01:10 PM

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 947934)
I want him here. But the good news is that as depleted at the dirty birds are, what they'll give up to get him will guarantee they'll suck for the next few years, so there's that.

If they're just waiting on the timing from Atlanta the right thing to do is reach out to us and let us know it's done so we can move on.

My hope is that there is no "trade" partner. The Colts should be sick of the mediocrity at QB & ignore the band aid old vet @ QB. They recently tried with Rivers, then Wentz & both failed.

You're right though, we want to make Fontenot & Ryan Pace's job as hard as possible to win in the NFC South & beyond. They'll definitely need the draft capital.

... "Walks like a Falcon, quacks like a Falcon."

saintfan 03-18-2022 01:33 PM

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 947938)
We really have no idea what or who is holding things up right now. It could be Houston or one of the trade partners getting all of the "i's" dotted and "t's" crossed. There may need to be some pre-trade restructuring required. Watson may have already gave his consent on the no-trade clause.

Or not.

Well why don't you reach out to one of your 'experts' on the twitter and come back here and plagiarize their content... :rolleyes:


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