Deshaun Watson to Saints?

jeanpierre · 03-12-2022, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I don’t know about the female owner thing… Jameis has a history of sexual assault.

Don't forget the unspoken spectre of Darren Sharper...

Not to mention Carl Granderson has recent checkered history...

Also you got a Reserve, Future's Contract Kirk Merrit who's also had problems behaving with the ladies...

And then there's Jameis, who many are willing to forget that an entire university system and alumni destroyed a girl to protect their Heisman winner...

Plus Jameis has had Ronald Darby alibi for him not once, but in two alleged sexual assault cases...

Don't expect these Saints to live like Saints, but criminal sexual transgressions seem to be swept under the rug by the Saints FO - that's disturbing...

jnormand · 03-12-2022, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Don't forget the unspoken spectre of Darren Sharper...

Not to mention Carl Granderson has recent checkered history...

Also you got a Reserve, Future's Contract Kirk Merrit who's also had problems behaving with the ladies...

And then there's Jameis, who many are willing to forget that an entire university system and alumni destroyed a girl to protect their Heisman winner...

Plus Jameis has had Ronald Darby alibi for him not once, but in two alleged sexual assault cases...

Don't expect these Saints to live like Saints, but criminal sexual transgressions seem to be swept under the rug by the Saints - that's disturbing...

I agree completely. It kind of bothers me honestly.

The days of guys like Brees and Colston are long gone. Sad.

I'll say this, Watson has a ton of baggage. And its baggage in the last few years.

I'd really rather just try to find a good QB in the draft and go for him. But that's just me.

FinSaint · 03-12-2022, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

I agree completely. It kind of bothers me honestly.

The days of guys like Brees and Colston are long gone. Sad.

I'll say this, Watson has a ton of baggage. And its baggage in the last few years.

I'd really rather just try to find a good QB in the draft and go for him. But that's just me.

Agreed, but how easy is it to find a true franchise QB through the draft, especially when you are not picking with the first couple of picks of a draft?!

Trading for Watson could be that shortcut for this Saints' team to really compete for the Lombardi instead of years of mediocrity while trying to find the QB to take them to the promised land.

Pretty much last chances for guys like Jordan, Davis and Ingram.

dizzle88 · 03-12-2022, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Don't forget the unspoken spectre of Darren Sharper...

Not to mention Carl Granderson has recent checkered history...

Also you got a Reserve, Future's Contract Kirk Merrit who's also had problems behaving with the ladies...

And then there's Jameis, who many are willing to forget that an entire university system and alumni destroyed a girl to protect their Heisman winner...

Plus Jameis has had Ronald Darby alibi for him not once, but in two alleged sexual assault cases...

Don't expect these Saints to live like Saints, but criminal sexual transgressions seem to be swept under the rug by the Saints FO - that's disturbing...

Kamara and his crew beat up that guy recently too.

Like it or not, there are not many role models left in the NFL. Its no longer viewed as privilege to be in the NFL, because as long as you can contribute to a Super Bowl, a lot of the personal stuff gets forgotten by many.

As you said, disturbing.

FinSaint · 03-12-2022, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Kamara and his crew beat up that guy recently too.

Like it or not, there are not many role models left in the NFL. Its no longer viewed as privilege to be in the NFL, because as long as you can contribute to a Super Bowl, a lot of the personal stuff gets forgotten by many.

As you said, disturbing.

Probably a lot of the same kind of stuff went on behind the scenes back in the day when players actually had private lives.

saintsfan1976 · 03-12-2022, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Probably a lot of the same kind of stuff went on behind the scenes back in the day when players actually had private lives.

Probably??

jeanpierre · 03-12-2022, 06:51 PM

vpheughan · 03-12-2022, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Probably a lot of the same kind of stuff went on behind the scenes back in the day when players actually had private lives.

To your point:

It was November 19, 1966. Michigan State entered the contest 9–0 and ranked No. 2, while Notre Dame entered 8–0 and ranked No. 1. Notre Dame elected not to try for a score on the final series; thus, the game ended in a 10–10 tie.

Bubba Smith, The Baltimore Colts 1967 1st round draft choice and later a star in the Police Academy movie franchise was a senior defensive end for Michigan State.

Prior to his senior year, his hometown American Football League’s Houston Oilers bought Smith an Oldsmobile 98 to get a jump on the bidding war with NFL teams. When Smith showed up on campus with his new wheels, there were rumors a booster paid for it. Coach DuffyDaugherty told Smith to return the car.

Smith was arrested before the big game for having 300 unpaid parking tickets. Amazingly He was out in time to play in the Big Game. Tame by today's standards but things were in 1966.

The Dude · 03-12-2022, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Kamara and his crew beat up that guy recently too.

Like it or not, there are not many role models left in the NFL. Its no longer viewed as privilege to be in the NFL, because as long as you can contribute to a Super Bowl, a lot of the personal stuff gets forgotten by many.

As you said, disturbing.

It’s not like everyone was a Boy Scout back when Brees and Payton were here. People stealing Vicodin, Payton showing up to press conferences coked out of his mind, Sharper, and Bountygate all came under their watch.

SaintGnome · 03-12-2022, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

It’s not like everyone was a Boy Scout back when Brees and Payton were here. People stealing Vicodin, Payton showing up to press conferences coked out of his mind, Sharper, and Bountygate all came under their watch.

Yeah, but none of that was obvious at the time. If we had a warning...maybe things play differently.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I don’t know about the female owner thing… Jameis has a history of sexual assault. Don't forget the unspoken spectre of Darren Sharper... Not to mention Carl Granderson has recent checkered history... Also you got a Reserve, Future's Contract Kirk Merrit who's also had problems behaving with the ladies... And then there's Jameis, who many are willing to forget that an entire university system and alumni destroyed a girl to protect their Heisman winner... Plus Jameis has had Ronald Darby alibi for him not once, but in two alleged sexual assault cases... Don't expect these Saints to live like Saints, but criminal sexual transgressions seem to be swept under the rug by the Saints FO - that's disturbing... jnormand, MatthewT and ChrisXVI like this.
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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,759	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by jeanpierre Don't forget the unspoken spectre of Darren Sharper... Not to mention Carl Granderson has recent checkered history... Also you got a Reserve, Future's Contract Kirk Merrit who's also had problems behaving with the ladies... And then there's Jameis, who many are willing to forget that an entire university system and alumni destroyed a girl to protect their Heisman winner... Plus Jameis has had Ronald Darby alibi for him not once, but in two alleged sexual assault cases... Don't expect these Saints to live like Saints, but criminal sexual transgressions seem to be swept under the rug by the Saints - that's disturbing... I agree completely. It kind of bothers me honestly. The days of guys like Brees and Colston are long gone. Sad. I'll say this, Watson has a ton of baggage. And its baggage in the last few years. I'd really rather just try to find a good QB in the draft and go for him. But that's just me. MatthewT, RailBoss, papz and 1 others like this.

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FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by jnormand I agree completely. It kind of bothers me honestly. The days of guys like Brees and Colston are long gone. Sad. I'll say this, Watson has a ton of baggage. And its baggage in the last few years. I'd really rather just try to find a good QB in the draft and go for him. But that's just me. Agreed, but how easy is it to find a true franchise QB through the draft, especially when you are not picking with the first couple of picks of a draft?! Trading for Watson could be that shortcut for this Saints' team to really compete for the Lombardi instead of years of mediocrity while trying to find the QB to take them to the promised land. Pretty much last chances for guys like Jordan, Davis and Ingram. jnormand and K Major like this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by jeanpierre Don't forget the unspoken spectre of Darren Sharper... Not to mention Carl Granderson has recent checkered history... Also you got a Reserve, Future's Contract Kirk Merrit who's also had problems behaving with the ladies... And then there's Jameis, who many are willing to forget that an entire university system and alumni destroyed a girl to protect their Heisman winner... Plus Jameis has had Ronald Darby alibi for him not once, but in two alleged sexual assault cases... Don't expect these Saints to live like Saints, but criminal sexual transgressions seem to be swept under the rug by the Saints FO - that's disturbing... Kamara and his crew beat up that guy recently too. Like it or not, there are not many role models left in the NFL. Its no longer viewed as privilege to be in the NFL, because as long as you can contribute to a Super Bowl, a lot of the personal stuff gets forgotten by many. As you said, disturbing. jnormand, MatthewT, RailBoss and 2 others like this.

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FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by dizzle88 Kamara and his crew beat up that guy recently too. Like it or not, there are not many role models left in the NFL. Its no longer viewed as privilege to be in the NFL, because as long as you can contribute to a Super Bowl, a lot of the personal stuff gets forgotten by many. As you said, disturbing. Probably a lot of the same kind of stuff went on behind the scenes back in the day when players actually had private lives. ChrisXVI, Lord_Saint83 and SaintGnome like this.

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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,547	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by FinSaint Probably a lot of the same kind of stuff went on behind the scenes back in the day when players actually had private lives. To your point: It was November 19, 1966. Michigan State entered the contest 9–0 and ranked No. 2, while Notre Dame entered 8–0 and ranked No. 1. Notre Dame elected not to try for a score on the final series; thus, the game ended in a 10–10 tie. Bubba Smith, The Baltimore Colts 1967 1st round draft choice and later a star in the Police Academy movie franchise was a senior defensive end for Michigan State. Prior to his senior year, his hometown American Football League’s Houston Oilers bought Smith an Oldsmobile 98 to get a jump on the bidding war with NFL teams. When Smith showed up on campus with his new wheels, there were rumors a booster paid for it. Coach DuffyDaugherty told Smith to return the car. Smith was arrested before the big game for having 300 unpaid parking tickets. Amazingly He was out in time to play in the Big Game. Tame by today's standards but things were in 1966.
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SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by The Dude It’s not like everyone was a Boy Scout back when Brees and Payton were here. People stealing Vicodin, Payton showing up to press conferences coked out of his mind, Sharper, and Bountygate all came under their watch. Yeah, but none of that was obvious at the time. If we had a warning...maybe things play differently.