Saints sign S Sorensen

saintfan · 03-25-2022, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

This is true. But it's something that the the players see as real. They talk about it as a factor all the time.

They do? Got any tweets?

The Dude · 03-25-2022, 09:45 PM

I’ve been very busy and have not had much time to check the board. Every time I finally get around to it I think to myself that SURELY we must have signed someone useful by now. Then I see this.

TheOak · 03-26-2022, 06:12 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I don't blame them on waiting for the WR market to adjust. It is way out of whack.

Please explain how the WR market adjusts? I’m literally going to stare at this page until you elaborate.

Rugby Saint II · 03-26-2022, 10:33 AM

No one seems to like this move outside of Sorenson and his agent. I hate the expression "camp body" but it may apply here.

AsylumGuido · 03-26-2022, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Please explain how the WR market adjusts? I’m literally going to stare at this page until you elaborate.

Just like any market adjusts. Supply and demand. As top WR signings slow the going rate will decrease as well.

These were the first signings of free agency via spotrac:

MAR 15 2022
DJ Chark, WR
Signed a 1 year $10 million contract with Detroit (DET)

MAR 15 2022
Russell Gage, WR
Signed a 3 year $30 million contract with Tampa Bay (TB)

MAR 14 2022
Cedrick Wilson, WR
Signed a 3 year $22.05 million contract with Miami (MIA)

MAR 14 2022
Christian Kirk, WR
Signed a 4 year $72 million contract with Jacksonville (JAC)

MAR 14 2022
Zay Jones, WR
Signed a 3 year $24 million contract with Jacksonville (JAC)

Out of 25 free agent signings since only one has been even near that same early high range ...

MAR 24 2022
Marquez Valdes-Scantling, WR
Signed a 3 year $30 million contract with Kansas City (KC)

The market is adjusting downward for the top WR's. It's basic economics and happens every year. It is the proverbial "first wave" versus latter waves of free agency. There are still plenty of WR's out there (supply) and all teams have slowed the pace of signings (demand).

Boston Saint · 03-26-2022, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

No one seems to like this move outside of Sorenson and his agent. I hate the expression "camp body" but it may apply here.

Good point

AsylumGuido · 03-26-2022, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

No one seems to like this move outside of Sorenson and his agent. I hate the expression "camp body" but it may apply here.

Exactly. The offseason roster is 90 players. Half the players signed originally (many will be replaced during the offseason itself) will not make the final 53, but you still have to have them.

saintfan · 03-27-2022, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Exactly. The offseason roster is 90 players. Half the players signed originally (many will be replaced during the offseason itself) will not make the final 53, but you still have to have them.

Well thank you professor, because none of us knew that already...

Why don't you go build a tree house out of a coconut or something and let the adults talk for a while...

RailBoss · 03-27-2022, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I think he will retire before training camp starts.

For Jenkins, Terrell reports, the changes are considerable. Jenkins took a pay cut to reduce his base salary to the league minimum in both 2022 ($1.12 million) and 2023 ($1.165 million), the final two years of his contract. Unlike most restructures, he did not receive a signing bonus and no void years were added. This is the same maneuver the Saints took with Drew Brees prior to his retirement to help ease the salary cap hit once he was ready to step away from the game.

Jenkins, 34, could also be considering retirement. He’s won two Super Bowls in two different NFL cities and has wide-ranging business interests outside of football. There’s another shoe waiting to drop unless he’s planning to play out his deal while earning the veteran’s minimum. Whether that means retirement or an extension (which the Saints would have done in the first place) is unclear. If he does decide it’s time to retire from football, the Saints could designate him a post-June 1 cut (again, as they did with Brees) and carry minimal dead money charges of $3.95 million in 2022 and 2023.

RailBoss · 03-27-2022, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I’ve been very busy and have not had much time to check the board. Every time I finally get around to it I think to myself that SURELY we must have signed someone useful by now. Then I see this.

Lol........

03-25-2022, 09:22 PM	#41
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints sign S Sorensen Originally Posted by AsylumGuido This is true. But it's something that the the players see as real. They talk about it as a factor all the time. They do? Got any tweets? K Major likes this.

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03-26-2022, 06:12 AM	#43
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Saints sign S Sorensen Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I don't blame them on waiting for the WR market to adjust. It is way out of whack. Please explain how the WR market adjusts? I’m literally going to stare at this page until you elaborate. saintfan and SmashMouth like this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Saints sign S Sorensen No one seems to like this move outside of Sorenson and his agent. I hate the expression "camp body" but it may apply here.

03-26-2022, 10:34 AM	#45
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,214	Re: Saints sign S Sorensen Originally Posted by TheOak Please explain how the WR market adjusts? I’m literally going to stare at this page until you elaborate. Just like any market adjusts. Supply and demand. As top WR signings slow the going rate will decrease as well. These were the first signings of free agency via spotrac: MAR 15 2022 DJ Chark, WR Signed a 1 year $10 million contract with Detroit (DET) MAR 15 2022 Russell Gage, WR Signed a 3 year $30 million contract with Tampa Bay (TB) MAR 14 2022 Cedrick Wilson, WR Signed a 3 year $22.05 million contract with Miami (MIA) MAR 14 2022 Christian Kirk, WR Signed a 4 year $72 million contract with Jacksonville (JAC) MAR 14 2022 Zay Jones, WR Signed a 3 year $24 million contract with Jacksonville (JAC) Out of 25 free agent signings since only one has been even near that same early high range ... MAR 24 2022 Marquez Valdes-Scantling, WR Signed a 3 year $30 million contract with Kansas City (KC) The market is adjusting downward for the top WR's. It's basic economics and happens every year. It is the proverbial "first wave" versus latter waves of free agency. There are still plenty of WR's out there (supply) and all teams have slowed the pace of signings (demand).
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03-26-2022, 10:35 AM	#46
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints sign S Sorensen Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II No one seems to like this move outside of Sorenson and his agent. I hate the expression "camp body" but it may apply here. Good point Rugby Saint II likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,214	Re: Saints sign S Sorensen Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II No one seems to like this move outside of Sorenson and his agent. I hate the expression "camp body" but it may apply here. Exactly. The offseason roster is 90 players. Half the players signed originally (many will be replaced during the offseason itself) will not make the final 53, but you still have to have them. Rugby Saint II likes this.

03-27-2022, 12:19 AM	#48
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints sign S Sorensen Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Exactly. The offseason roster is 90 players. Half the players signed originally (many will be replaced during the offseason itself) will not make the final 53, but you still have to have them. Well thank you professor, because none of us knew that already... Why don't you go build a tree house out of a coconut or something and let the adults talk for a while...

03-27-2022, 02:54 PM	#49
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Saints sign S Sorensen Originally Posted by K Major I think he will retire before training camp starts. For Jenkins, Terrell reports, the changes are considerable. Jenkins took a pay cut to reduce his base salary to the league minimum in both 2022 ($1.12 million) and 2023 ($1.165 million), the final two years of his contract. Unlike most restructures, he did not receive a signing bonus and no void years were added. This is the same maneuver the Saints took with Drew Brees prior to his retirement to help ease the salary cap hit once he was ready to step away from the game. Jenkins, 34, could also be considering retirement. He’s won two Super Bowls in two different NFL cities and has wide-ranging business interests outside of football. There’s another shoe waiting to drop unless he’s planning to play out his deal while earning the veteran’s minimum. Whether that means retirement or an extension (which the Saints would have done in the first place) is unclear. If he does decide it’s time to retire from football, the Saints could designate him a post-June 1 cut (again, as they did with Brees) and carry minimal dead money charges of $3.95 million in 2022 and 2023.

03-27-2022, 02:55 PM	#50
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Saints sign S Sorensen Originally Posted by The Dude I’ve been very busy and have not had much time to check the board. Every time I finally get around to it I think to myself that SURELY we must have signed someone useful by now. Then I see this. Lol........ Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.