Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints

AsylumGuido · 05-11-2022, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Well he did play in a heck of a lot more games than Thomas did over the last two seasons. Plus, Julio did play in their last playoff game. I’d expect him to be healthy and ready for training camps. It’s not like he has a big injury history in his career.

You just quoted a big injury history. LOL!

Boston Saint · 05-11-2022, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

You just quoted a big injury history. LOL!

Still missed fewer games than Thomas over the last two seasons. And I said over his career.

AsylumGuido · 05-12-2022, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Still missed fewer games than Thomas over the last two seasons. And I said over his career.

Thomas had an ankle injury that could happen to any player. Jones' recent history, as documented excellently by saintsfan1976, shows signs of chronic hamstring issues which have sidetracked many a career. Surgery can fix ankle issues. Hamstring issues have more to do with an individual's physiology.

Regardless, you have shared your opinion on Jones. That's fine. You can have him. Hard no for me, however ... on multiple levels.

But, for the record, here is Julio Jones' expanded injury history.

Date	League	Injury	Details
Nov 18, 2012	NFL	Pedal Ankle Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1	Jones hobbled off in the 4th quarter after re-injuring his right ankle but missed no further time.
Nov 13, 2011	NFL	Thigh Hamstring Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1	After tweaking his right hamstring in Thursday practice, Jones re-injured it in the 2nd quarter of Week 10. He missed the following game.
Oct 9, 2011	NFL	Thigh Hamstring Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1	Jones strained his left hamstring in Week 5 and missed the following 2 games. He returned after the Week 8 bye.
Sep 12, 2009	Non-NFL	Knee Strain Grade 1	Jones suffered a September knee injury that lingered throughout the 2009 season but cost him just 1 game.
Aug 5, 2013	NFL	Thigh Hamstring Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1	Jones dealt with tightness in both hamstrings and sat out the 1st preseason game.
Oct 7, 2013	NFL	Pedal Foot Fracture	Jones fractured his right foot in Week 5 against the Jets and didn't play another game until the 2nd week of the 2014 preseason.
Feb 1, 2011	Non-NFL	Pedal Toe Fracture	Jones broke a bone in his right foot after his final college season. He worked through it at the NFL Scouting Combine and had surgery afterward.
Dec 8, 2014	NFL	Inguinal Hip Strain	Jones suffered a hip injury in Week 14 and missed the next game.
Dec 4, 2016	NFL	Pedal Toe Sprain	Jones sprained the big toe on his right foot and missed 2 games.
Nov 11, 2012	NFL	Pedal Ankle Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1	In Week 10, Jones sprained his right ankle against the Saints but played through the injury.
Sep 18, 2014	NFL	Pedal Ankle Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1	Jones tweaked an ankle late in Week 2. It lingered but cost him no games.
Oct 11, 2015	NFL	Thigh Hamstring Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1	Jones came off the field for a few plays because of a hamstring injury but returned for the next possession.
Aug 25, 2016	NFL	Pedal Ankle Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1	Jones sprained his left ankle in the 3rd preseason game but missed no time.
Sep 11, 2016	NFL	Pedal Ankle Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1	Jones aggravated his left ankle sprain but played through the issue.
Sep 18, 2016	NFL	Leg Calf Strain	Jones missed no time following a Week 2 calf strain.
Jan 14, 2017	NFL	Pedal Toe Sprain	Jones aggravated a toe sprain on his right foot. He played through it the following week and in the Super Bowl but had surgery to remove a bunion in March.
Mar 6, 2017	NFL	Pedal Foot	Jones had surgery to remove a bunion from his right foot. He was medically cleared for the start of training camp but eased back in and sat out the 1st 2 preseason games.
Oct 1, 2017	NFL	Inguinal Hip Strain	Jones returned from a hip flexor after Atlanta's Week 5 bye.
Nov 5, 2017	NFL	Pedal Ankle Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1	Jones played through an ankle ailment. He played all 16 games in 2017.
Dec 17, 2017	NFL	Pedal Ankle Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1	Jones suffered the injury early in Week 15 but played through it.
Dec 18, 2017	NFL	Hand Thumb Sprain	Jones had the thumb taped up but didn't miss any time.
Jun 10, 2019	NFL	Pedal Foot	Jones was dealing with a foot injury toward the end of last season, although he didn’t miss a game. He didn't play in preseason games. He managed to play in Week 1 against Minnesota.
Nov 24, 2019	NFL	Shoulder A/C Joint Sprain	Jones suffered a shoulder injury in the second quarter and left the game vs. Tampa Bay. He missed only one game
Sep 20, 2020	NFL	Thigh Hamstring Strain Grade 2	Jones strained his left hamstring in the team's Week 2 loss to the Cowboys. He missed one game
Oct 5, 2020	NFL	Thigh Hamstring Strain Grade 2	Jones aggravated his hamstring injury in Monday's loss to the Packers. He was inactive for Week 5 game against the Panthers.
Nov 22, 2020	NFL	Thigh Hamstring Strain Grade 2	Jones was examined for a hamstring injury during the Week 11 loss to the Saints. He missed the next game
Dec 9, 2020	NFL	Thigh Hamstring Strain Grade 2	Jones aggravated his hamstring injury after coming out of a Week 13 game against the Saint. He closed out the 2020 season with four straight missed games
Sep 26, 2021	NFL	Thigh Hamstring Strain Grade 2	Jones picked up a hamstring injury during Week 3's win over the Colts. He missed two games
Oct 18, 2021	NFL	Thigh Hamstring Strain Grade 2	Julio re-injured his hamstring in Week 6's game against the Bills. He didn't miss any game
Oct 27, 2021	NFL	Thigh Hamstring Strain Grade 2	Jones missed Week 8's game against the Colts due to a hamstring injury.
Nov 11, 2021	NFL	Thigh Hamstring Strain Grade 2	Jones missed three games due to a hamstring injury.
Dec 19, 2021	NFL	Thigh Hamstring Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1	Jones aggravated a hamstring injury in Tennessee's Week 15 loss to Pittsburgh. He was cleared for the next game.

AsylumGuido · 05-12-2022, 08:08 AM

Michael Thomas' expanded injury history.

Date	League	Injury	Details
Mar 15, 2015	Non-NFL	Inguinal Groin Sports Hernia	Thomas dealt with a nagging groin injury through the January playoffs and then had sports hernia surgery. He was ready to start the 2015 season.
Dec 4, 2016	NFL	Pedal Foot Sprain	Thomas missed Week 14 with an unspecified foot injury suffered sometime in Week 13. (He played that whole game.)
Sep 13, 2020	NFL	Pedal Ankle (high) Sprain Grade 3	Thomas suffered a high-ankle sprain during Week 1's win over the Buccaneers. He missed a couple of weeks due to this injury
Oct 21, 2020	NFL	Thigh Hamstring Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1	Thomas sustained a hamstring injury in practice ahead of Week 7 game. He missed two games because of this injury
Dec 16, 2020	NFL	Pedal Ankle (high) Sprain Grade 3	Thomas missed the final three games of the regular season because of his lingering ankle injury. He didn't play in the 2021 season after a setback in his rehab

Boston Saint · 05-12-2022, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Michael Thomas' expanded injury history.

Date League Injury Details
Mar 15, 2015 Non-NFL Inguinal Groin Sports Hernia Thomas dealt with a nagging groin injury through the January playoffs and then had sports hernia surgery. He was ready to start the 2015 season.
Dec 4, 2016 NFL Pedal Foot Sprain Thomas missed Week 14 with an unspecified foot injury suffered sometime in Week 13. (He played that whole game.)
Sep 13, 2020 NFL Pedal Ankle (high) Sprain Grade 3 Thomas suffered a high-ankle sprain during Week 1's win over the Buccaneers. He missed a couple of weeks due to this injury
Oct 21, 2020 NFL Thigh Hamstring Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1 Thomas sustained a hamstring injury in practice ahead of Week 7 game. He missed two games because of this injury
Dec 16, 2020 NFL Pedal Ankle (high) Sprain Grade 3 Thomas missed the final three games of the regular season because of his lingering ankle injury. He didn't play in the 2021 season after a setback in his rehab

And you say that I like to argue with YOU??!! LOL, you have the emotional maturity of a child.

They other day you jumped on a user for saying he had doubts about Thomas’s ability to come back from injury and bragged about being an optimistic person. But now that it doesn’t suit your argument, you are saying you have doubts about Jones coming back from injury (even though he played in his team’s last game) and are being a pessimist. That’s called hypocrisy.

Did Jones finish playing last season? Yes! Did Thomas? No!
Number of games missed since the start of 2020 for Thomas..26. Number missed for Julio…14. So your post is meaningless to my points. My example of a guy who has a history of injury would be Davenport; a guy who has NEVER played a full season worth of games due to injury. Julio doesn’t fit that description at all.

You can put any spin on it you want about how an ankle injury can happen to anyone, but so what? A hamstring or achilles or MCL or concussion can happen to anyone too. Doesn’t change that Thomas has missed significant time and had setbacks during his rehab. Does ghosting your coach and training staff happen to anyone too? How about getting suspended for fighting with a teammate? Don’t recall that ever happening to Julio. But you’ve got your nose so far up the organization’s butt that you won’t acknowledge those facts.

Jones is out there. He’s available. He’s healthy (at least more so than Thomas who still has hurdles according to his coach). He’s got a wealth of experience to pass onto younger players. There is a good chance he could be had at a reasonable price (although that may be changing as I’ve heard Packers and Ravens MIGHT have interest in him). I wouldn’t mind seeing the Saints sign him at a bargain as our 4th WR. That’s my opinion. Case closed. You don’t agree, fine. But the combative nature you are taking with me isn’t going to change my mind. My reasoning is sound. Deal with it.

CheramieIII · 05-12-2022, 09:38 AM

Can’t we all just get along!😊 I know coming from the guy that used to argue about the color of some shoelace’s!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Boston Saint · 05-12-2022, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

Can’t we all just get along!😊 I know coming from the guy that used to argue about the color of some shoelace’s!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I can’t with Guido apparently. He’s either complaining that it’s my life’s mission to argue with him or gathering pages of information in order to…well argue with me.

frydaddy · 05-12-2022, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I can’t with Guido apparently. He’s either complaining that it’s my life’s mission to argue with him or gathering pages of information in order to…well argue with me.

And the mystery of why he's allowed to stay just continues to deepen.

Boston Saint · 05-12-2022, 11:24 AM

Just like at RB, TE, DT, and OG, the team could use help/depth at WR at this point. If Having Landry compete with Callaway/Smith/Harty/player X for spots 3-5 is the question then Id vote no; provided the resources are used elsewhere.

Edit: If he and Julio were available at the same cost I’d take Landry.

AsylumGuido · 05-12-2022, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

And you say that I like to argue with YOU??!! LOL, you have the emotional maturity of a child.

They other day you jumped on a user for saying he had doubts about Thomas’s ability to come back from injury and bragged about being an optimistic person. But now that it doesn’t suit your argument, you are saying you have doubts about Jones coming back from injury (even though he played in his team’s last game) and are being a pessimist. That’s called hypocrisy.

Did Jones finish playing last season? Yes! Did Thomas? No!
Number of games missed since the start of 2020 for Thomas..26. Number missed for Julio…14. So your post is meaningless to my points. My example of a guy who has a history of injury would be Davenport; a guy who has NEVER played a full season worth of games due to injury. Julio doesn’t fit that description at all.

You can put any spin on it you want about how an ankle injury can happen to anyone, but so what? A hamstring or achilles or MCL or concussion can happen to anyone too. Doesn’t change that Thomas has missed significant time and had setbacks during his rehab. Does ghosting your coach and training staff happen to anyone too? How about getting suspended for fighting with a teammate? Don’t recall that ever happening to Julio. But you’ve got your nose so far up the organization’s butt that you won’t acknowledge those facts.

Jones is out there. He’s available. He’s healthy (at least more so than Thomas who still has hurdles according to his coach). He’s got a wealth of experience to pass onto younger players. There is a good chance he could be had at a reasonable price (although that may be changing as I’ve heard Packers and Ravens MIGHT have interest in him). I wouldn’t mind seeing the Saints sign him at a bargain as our 4th WR. That’s my opinion. Case closed. You don’t agree, fine. But the combative nature you are taking with me isn’t going to change my mind. My reasoning is sound. Deal with it.

LOL! Combative nature.

All I did was post comparative injury histories. I even said you have your opinion and I have mine. I didn't say another word other than posting the histories.

Relax, dude.

I find it amusing that you didn't go off on others that mentioned not wanting Jones and pointing out his recent performance and injury history. Wonder why that is?

05-11-2022, 08:22 PM	#91
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints Originally Posted by Boston Saint Well he did play in a heck of a lot more games than Thomas did over the last two seasons. Plus, Julio did play in their last playoff game. I’d expect him to be healthy and ready for training camps. It’s not like he has a big injury history in his career. You just quoted a big injury history. LOL!

05-11-2022, 08:32 PM	#92
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido You just quoted a big injury history. LOL! Still missed fewer games than Thomas over the last two seasons. And I said over his career. SmashMouth likes this.

05-12-2022, 09:38 AM	#96
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints Can’t we all just get along!😊 I know coming from the guy that used to argue about the color of some shoelace’s!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

05-12-2022, 09:46 AM	#97
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints Originally Posted by CheramieIII Can’t we all just get along!😊 I know coming from the guy that used to argue about the color of some shoelace’s!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I can’t with Guido apparently. He’s either complaining that it’s my life’s mission to argue with him or gathering pages of information in order to…well argue with me. frydaddy and K Major like this.

05-12-2022, 10:39 AM	#98
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,950 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints Originally Posted by Boston Saint I can’t with Guido apparently. He’s either complaining that it’s my life’s mission to argue with him or gathering pages of information in order to…well argue with me. And the mystery of why he's allowed to stay just continues to deepen. The Dude and K Major like this.

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05-12-2022, 11:24 AM	#99
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints Just like at RB, TE, DT, and OG, the team could use help/depth at WR at this point. If Having Landry compete with Callaway/Smith/Harty/player X for spots 3-5 is the question then Id vote no; provided the resources are used elsewhere. Edit: If he and Julio were available at the same cost I’d take Landry. Rell&Gold likes this.

05-12-2022, 11:49 AM	#100
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints Originally Posted by Boston Saint And you say that I like to argue with YOU??!! LOL, you have the emotional maturity of a child. They other day you jumped on a user for saying he had doubts about Thomas’s ability to come back from injury and bragged about being an optimistic person. But now that it doesn’t suit your argument, you are saying you have doubts about Jones coming back from injury (even though he played in his team’s last game) and are being a pessimist. That’s called hypocrisy. Did Jones finish playing last season? Yes! Did Thomas? No! Number of games missed since the start of 2020 for Thomas..26. Number missed for Julio…14. So your post is meaningless to my points. My example of a guy who has a history of injury would be Davenport; a guy who has NEVER played a full season worth of games due to injury. Julio doesn’t fit that description at all. You can put any spin on it you want about how an ankle injury can happen to anyone, but so what? A hamstring or achilles or MCL or concussion can happen to anyone too. Doesn’t change that Thomas has missed significant time and had setbacks during his rehab. Does ghosting your coach and training staff happen to anyone too? How about getting suspended for fighting with a teammate? Don’t recall that ever happening to Julio. But you’ve got your nose so far up the organization’s butt that you won’t acknowledge those facts. Jones is out there. He’s available. He’s healthy (at least more so than Thomas who still has hurdles according to his coach). He’s got a wealth of experience to pass onto younger players. There is a good chance he could be had at a reasonable price (although that may be changing as I’ve heard Packers and Ravens MIGHT have interest in him). I wouldn’t mind seeing the Saints sign him at a bargain as our 4th WR. That’s my opinion. Case closed. You don’t agree, fine. But the combative nature you are taking with me isn’t going to change my mind. My reasoning is sound. Deal with it. LOL! Combative nature. All I did was post comparative injury histories. I even said you have your opinion and I have mine. I didn't say another word other than posting the histories. Relax, dude. I find it amusing that you didn't go off on others that mentioned not wanting Jones and pointing out his recent performance and injury history. Wonder why that is?