Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints

Boston Saint · 05-03-2022, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Mebbe.... we'll see if one of the rooks step up. If Landry is a WR3 , it's an expensive WR3. Not sure it's worth the price, even if we have the cap space.

This is kind of how I see it too. Between Callaway, Smith, White, Harris, Lil Jordan and the undrafted FAs we’ve signed I feel confident they can come up with players that will be viable 3rd, 4th and 5th options without taking on a Landry sized contract. I’d almost rather see that money used on D line depth or maybe Ebron as TE help or even a bet RB like Lindsay to help when Kamara misses games.

saintsfan1976 · 05-03-2022, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Mebbe.... we'll see if one of the rooks step up. If Landry is a WR3 , it's an expensive WR3. Not sure it's worth the price, even if we have the cap space.

To Rez's point we've done the "let's see who steps up" for some time now. It's no coincidence that the Rams with three bad ass WRs went to one SB with a mediocre QB and won it with a real QB.

I think Jarvis is imperative and without checking dead money, would think we'd cut 2-3 WRs to make room for him.

Easop, White, Merritt, Baker.... all candidates to be cut

saintsfan1976 · 05-03-2022, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

This.

Sean Payton was just saying the Saints don't need a WR in the 1st Round. Dennis Allen obviously disagreed. Payton was too stuck in his ways while the NFL was changing around him. The Rams at their peak had Cooper Kupp, Robert Woods, and Odell Beckham. That's without mentioning Van Jefferson. That's three #1's. Now they have Kupp and Allen Robinson. Still two #1 options.

The Bengals had Ja'Marr Chase, Tee Higgins, and Tyler Boyd. The year before you had Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, and Antonio Brown vs Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins, and Travis Kelce. That receiver/tight end room has to go crazy to compete. In truth, we still need one more moving piece like Odell Beckham or Jarvis Landry to seal the deal. It gives you the depth to make it through injuries and also makes you close to unstoppable when everybody is fully healthy because most teams don't have a good enough DB room to handle all that. However...we do.

I read an article that basically ended with the question "Can Dennis Allen win the type of games Brees / Payton seemingly won for the team?"

I wonder how many games DA will win by following a less predictable gameplan and stubbornness.

K Major · 05-03-2022, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

To Rez's point we've done the "let's see who steps up" for some time now. It's no coincidence that the Rams with three bad ass WRs went to one SB with a mediocre QB and won it with a real QB.

I think Jarvis is imperative and without checking dead money, would think we'd cut 2-3 WRs to make room for him.

Easop, White, Merritt, Baker.... all candidates to be cut

I’m with you here.

Enough of the development guys. Brees is long gone.

You need legit threats 1-3 in the NFL.

Boston Saint · 05-03-2022, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I’m with you here.

Enough of the development guys. Brees is long gone.

You need legit threats 1-3 in the NFL.

IDK Major, Callaway had 45 receptions for 700 yards and 6 TDs going against number one CBs with Hill, Book, and Semien throwing to him for over half the season. I’d say that’s pretty legit if that’s your third guy. That’s about what Kupp had in his first year of starting.

stickman · 05-03-2022, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

This.

Sean Payton was just saying the Saints don't need a WR in the 1st Round. Dennis Allen obviously disagreed. Payton was too stuck in his ways while the NFL was changing around him.

Drew had Payton spoiled. He could make any WR they picked up look good.

turbo_dog · 05-03-2022, 01:21 PM

If nobody else signs we'll have Thomas, Olave, Smith/Callaway. Plus Deonte Harris, who showed last season that he can play receiver as well. Not to mention Kawaan Baker from the practice squad who I hope gets another shot in camp this season. And we have UDFA to check out.

Trequan and Callaway as number three receivers should be very different than when they were trying to play number one receiver.

My bigger concern is at the TE position.

SmashMouth · 05-03-2022, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

To Rez's point we've done the "let's see who steps up" for some time now. It's no coincidence that the Rams with three bad ass WRs went to one SB with a mediocre QB and won it with a real QB.

I think Jarvis is imperative and without checking dead money, would think we'd cut 2-3 WRs to make room for him.

Easop, White, Merritt, Baker.... all candidates to be cut

Originally Posted by K Major

I’m with you here.

Enough of the development guys. Brees is long gone.

You need legit threats 1-3 in the NFL.

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

IDK Major, Callaway had 45 receptions for 700 yards and 6 TDs going against number one CBs with Hill, Book, and Semien throwing to him for over half the season. I’d say that’s pretty legit if that’s your third guy. That’s about what Kupp had in his first year of starting.

Do the Lambs have three expensive WRs as we speak right this very second? Asking for a friend...

neugey · 05-03-2022, 01:58 PM

I'm cool with Landry, but worried about the price. Thinking a more cost-efficient veteran WR might be out there - Cole Beasley or perhaps bringing back Emmanuel Sanders.

Rell&Gold · 05-03-2022, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

This.

Sean Payton was just saying the Saints don't need a WR in the 1st Round. Dennis Allen obviously disagreed. Payton was too stuck in his ways while the NFL was changing around him. The Rams at their peak had Cooper Kupp, Robert Woods, and Odell Beckham. That's without mentioning Van Jefferson. That's three #1's. Now they have Kupp and Allen Robinson. Still two #1 options.

The Bengals had Ja'Marr Chase, Tee Higgins, and Tyler Boyd. The year before you had Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, and Antonio Brown vs Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins, and Travis Kelce. That receiver/tight end room has to go crazy to compete. In truth, we still need one more moving piece like Odell Beckham or Jarvis Landry to seal the deal. It gives you the depth to make it through injuries and also makes you close to unstoppable when everybody is fully healthy because most teams don't have a good enough DB room to handle all that. However...we do.

I get where you coming from I agree to an extent though. I think Sean has a point that there as well that there was quality impact Day 1 WR talent in the second. Feel like we ain't have to jump to 11 at minimum. Brand New Ferrari DA did 100 of the lot.

05-03-2022, 12:05 PM	#11
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints Originally Posted by SmashMouth Mebbe.... we'll see if one of the rooks step up. If Landry is a WR3 , it's an expensive WR3. Not sure it's worth the price, even if we have the cap space. This is kind of how I see it too. Between Callaway, Smith, White, Harris, Lil Jordan and the undrafted FAs we’ve signed I feel confident they can come up with players that will be viable 3rd, 4th and 5th options without taking on a Landry sized contract. I’d almost rather see that money used on D line depth or maybe Ebron as TE help or even a bet RB like Lindsay to help when Kamara misses games. SmashMouth likes this.

05-03-2022, 12:12 PM	#12
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints Originally Posted by SmashMouth Mebbe.... we'll see if one of the rooks step up. If Landry is a WR3 , it's an expensive WR3. Not sure it's worth the price, even if we have the cap space. To Rez's point we've done the "let's see who steps up" for some time now. It's no coincidence that the Rams with three bad ass WRs went to one SB with a mediocre QB and won it with a real QB. I think Jarvis is imperative and without checking dead money, would think we'd cut 2-3 WRs to make room for him. Easop, White, Merritt, Baker.... all candidates to be cut jnormand, AsylumGuido and K Major like this.

05-03-2022, 12:14 PM	#13
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints Originally Posted by rezburna This. Sean Payton was just saying the Saints don't need a WR in the 1st Round. Dennis Allen obviously disagreed. Payton was too stuck in his ways while the NFL was changing around him. The Rams at their peak had Cooper Kupp, Robert Woods, and Odell Beckham. That's without mentioning Van Jefferson. That's three #1's. Now they have Kupp and Allen Robinson. Still two #1 options. The Bengals had Ja'Marr Chase, Tee Higgins, and Tyler Boyd. The year before you had Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, and Antonio Brown vs Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins, and Travis Kelce. That receiver/tight end room has to go crazy to compete. In truth, we still need one more moving piece like Odell Beckham or Jarvis Landry to seal the deal. It gives you the depth to make it through injuries and also makes you close to unstoppable when everybody is fully healthy because most teams don't have a good enough DB room to handle all that. However...we do. I read an article that basically ended with the question "Can Dennis Allen win the type of games Brees / Payton seemingly won for the team?" I wonder how many games DA will win by following a less predictable gameplan and stubbornness. rezburna likes this.

05-03-2022, 12:19 PM	#14
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 To Rez's point we've done the "let's see who steps up" for some time now. It's no coincidence that the Rams with three bad ass WRs went to one SB with a mediocre QB and won it with a real QB. I think Jarvis is imperative and without checking dead money, would think we'd cut 2-3 WRs to make room for him. Easop, White, Merritt, Baker.... all candidates to be cut I’m with you here. Enough of the development guys. Brees is long gone. You need legit threats 1-3 in the NFL. jnormand and rezburna like this.

05-03-2022, 12:49 PM	#15
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints Originally Posted by K Major I’m with you here. Enough of the development guys. Brees is long gone. You need legit threats 1-3 in the NFL. IDK Major, Callaway had 45 receptions for 700 yards and 6 TDs going against number one CBs with Hill, Book, and Semien throwing to him for over half the season. I’d say that’s pretty legit if that’s your third guy. That’s about what Kupp had in his first year of starting. jnormand and Thirty3 like this.

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05-03-2022, 01:19 PM	#16
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,680	Re: Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints Originally Posted by rezburna This. Sean Payton was just saying the Saints don't need a WR in the 1st Round. Dennis Allen obviously disagreed. Payton was too stuck in his ways while the NFL was changing around him. Drew had Payton spoiled. He could make any WR they picked up look good. SmashMouth and Boston Saint like this.

05-03-2022, 01:21 PM	#17
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,592	Re: Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints If nobody else signs we'll have Thomas, Olave, Smith/Callaway. Plus Deonte Harris, who showed last season that he can play receiver as well. Not to mention Kawaan Baker from the practice squad who I hope gets another shot in camp this season. And we have UDFA to check out. Trequan and Callaway as number three receivers should be very different than when they were trying to play number one receiver. My bigger concern is at the TE position. SmashMouth and Boston Saint like this.

05-03-2022, 01:30 PM	#18
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 To Rez's point we've done the "let's see who steps up" for some time now. It's no coincidence that the Rams with three bad ass WRs went to one SB with a mediocre QB and won it with a real QB. I think Jarvis is imperative and without checking dead money, would think we'd cut 2-3 WRs to make room for him. Easop, White, Merritt, Baker.... all candidates to be cut Originally Posted by K Major I’m with you here. Enough of the development guys. Brees is long gone. You need legit threats 1-3 in the NFL. Originally Posted by Boston Saint IDK Major, Callaway had 45 receptions for 700 yards and 6 TDs going against number one CBs with Hill, Book, and Semien throwing to him for over half the season. I’d say that’s pretty legit if that’s your third guy. That’s about what Kupp had in his first year of starting. Do the Lambs have three expensive WRs as we speak right this very second? Asking for a friend...

05-03-2022, 01:58 PM	#19
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints I'm cool with Landry, but worried about the price. Thinking a more cost-efficient veteran WR might be out there - Cole Beasley or perhaps bringing back Emmanuel Sanders. Rell&Gold likes this.

05-03-2022, 02:43 PM	#20
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints Originally Posted by rezburna This. Sean Payton was just saying the Saints don't need a WR in the 1st Round. Dennis Allen obviously disagreed. Payton was too stuck in his ways while the NFL was changing around him. The Rams at their peak had Cooper Kupp, Robert Woods, and Odell Beckham. That's without mentioning Van Jefferson. That's three #1's. Now they have Kupp and Allen Robinson. Still two #1 options. The Bengals had Ja'Marr Chase, Tee Higgins, and Tyler Boyd. The year before you had Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, and Antonio Brown vs Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins, and Travis Kelce. That receiver/tight end room has to go crazy to compete. In truth, we still need one more moving piece like Odell Beckham or Jarvis Landry to seal the deal. It gives you the depth to make it through injuries and also makes you close to unstoppable when everybody is fully healthy because most teams don't have a good enough DB room to handle all that. However...we do. I get where you coming from I agree to an extent though. I think Sean has a point that there as well that there was quality impact Day 1 WR talent in the second. Feel like we ain't have to jump to 11 at minimum. Brand New Ferrari DA did 100 of the lot.