Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints

rezburna · 05-03-2022, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Dennis Allen’s team now.

Going up & grabbing Olave is moving in the right direction at WR.

Looking forward to camp and seeing different (coaches too) faces compete.

This.

Sean Payton was just saying the Saints don't need a WR in the 1st Round. Dennis Allen obviously disagreed. Payton was too stuck in his ways while the NFL was changing around him. The Rams at their peak had Cooper Kupp, Robert Woods, and Odell Beckham. That's without mentioning Van Jefferson. That's three #1's. Now they have Kupp and Allen Robinson. Still two #1 options.

The Bengals had Ja'Marr Chase, Tee Higgins, and Tyler Boyd. The year before you had Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, and Antonio Brown vs Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins, and Travis Kelce. That receiver/tight end room has to go crazy to compete. In truth, we still need one more moving piece like Odell Beckham or Jarvis Landry to seal the deal. It gives you the depth to make it through injuries and also makes you close to unstoppable when everybody is fully healthy because most teams don't have a good enough DB room to handle all that. However...we do.

SmashMouth · 05-03-2022, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

This.

Sean Payton was just saying the Saints don't need a WR in the 1st Round. Dennis Allen obviously disagreed. Payton was too stuck in his ways while the NFL was changing around him. The Rams at their peak had Cooper Kupp, Robert Woods, and Odell Beckham. That's without mentioning Van Jefferson. That's three #1's. Now they have Kupp and Allen Robinson. Still two #1 options.

The Bengals had Ja'Marr Chase, Tee Higgins, and Tyler Boyd. The year before you had Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, and Antonio Brown vs Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins, and Travis Kelce. That receiver/tight end room has to go crazy to compete. In truth, we still need one more moving piece like Odell Beckham or Jarvis Landry to seal the deal. It gives you the depth to make it through injuries and also makes you close to unstoppable when everybody is fully healthy because most teams don't have a good enough DB room to handle all that. However...we do.

Mebbe.... we'll see if one of the rooks step up. If Landry is a WR3 , it's an expensive WR3. Not sure it's worth the price, even if we have the cap space.

Boston Saint · 05-03-2022, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Mebbe.... we'll see if one of the rooks step up. If Landry is a WR3 , it's an expensive WR3. Not sure it's worth the price, even if we have the cap space.

This is kind of how I see it too. Between Callaway, Smith, White, Harris, Lil Jordan and the undrafted FAs we’ve signed I feel confident they can come up with players that will be viable 3rd, 4th and 5th options without taking on a Landry sized contract. I’d almost rather see that money used on D line depth or maybe Ebron as TE help or even a bet RB like Lindsay to help when Kamara misses games.

saintsfan1976 · 05-03-2022, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Mebbe.... we'll see if one of the rooks step up. If Landry is a WR3 , it's an expensive WR3. Not sure it's worth the price, even if we have the cap space.

To Rez's point we've done the "let's see who steps up" for some time now. It's no coincidence that the Rams with three bad ass WRs went to one SB with a mediocre QB and won it with a real QB.

I think Jarvis is imperative and without checking dead money, would think we'd cut 2-3 WRs to make room for him.

Easop, White, Merritt, Baker.... all candidates to be cut

K Major · 05-03-2022, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

To Rez's point we've done the "let's see who steps up" for some time now. It's no coincidence that the Rams with three bad ass WRs went to one SB with a mediocre QB and won it with a real QB.

I think Jarvis is imperative and without checking dead money, would think we'd cut 2-3 WRs to make room for him.

Easop, White, Merritt, Baker.... all candidates to be cut

I’m with you here.

Enough of the development guys. Brees is long gone.

You need legit threats 1-3 in the NFL.

saintsfan1976 · 05-03-2022, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

This.

Sean Payton was just saying the Saints don't need a WR in the 1st Round. Dennis Allen obviously disagreed. Payton was too stuck in his ways while the NFL was changing around him. The Rams at their peak had Cooper Kupp, Robert Woods, and Odell Beckham. That's without mentioning Van Jefferson. That's three #1's. Now they have Kupp and Allen Robinson. Still two #1 options.

The Bengals had Ja'Marr Chase, Tee Higgins, and Tyler Boyd. The year before you had Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, and Antonio Brown vs Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins, and Travis Kelce. That receiver/tight end room has to go crazy to compete. In truth, we still need one more moving piece like Odell Beckham or Jarvis Landry to seal the deal. It gives you the depth to make it through injuries and also makes you close to unstoppable when everybody is fully healthy because most teams don't have a good enough DB room to handle all that. However...we do.

I read an article that basically ended with the question "Can Dennis Allen win the type of games Brees / Payton seemingly won for the team?"

I wonder how many games DA will win by following a less predictable gameplan and stubbornness.

stickman · 05-03-2022, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

This.

Sean Payton was just saying the Saints don't need a WR in the 1st Round. Dennis Allen obviously disagreed. Payton was too stuck in his ways while the NFL was changing around him.

Drew had Payton spoiled. He could make any WR they picked up look good.

Rell&Gold · 05-03-2022, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

This.

Sean Payton was just saying the Saints don't need a WR in the 1st Round. Dennis Allen obviously disagreed. Payton was too stuck in his ways while the NFL was changing around him. The Rams at their peak had Cooper Kupp, Robert Woods, and Odell Beckham. That's without mentioning Van Jefferson. That's three #1's. Now they have Kupp and Allen Robinson. Still two #1 options.

The Bengals had Ja'Marr Chase, Tee Higgins, and Tyler Boyd. The year before you had Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, and Antonio Brown vs Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins, and Travis Kelce. That receiver/tight end room has to go crazy to compete. In truth, we still need one more moving piece like Odell Beckham or Jarvis Landry to seal the deal. It gives you the depth to make it through injuries and also makes you close to unstoppable when everybody is fully healthy because most teams don't have a good enough DB room to handle all that. However...we do.

I get where you coming from I agree to an extent though. I think Sean has a point that there as well that there was quality impact Day 1 WR talent in the second. Feel like we ain't have to jump to 11 at minimum. Brand New Ferrari DA did 100 of the lot.

AsylumGuido · 05-03-2022, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

I get where you coming from I agree to an extent though. I think Sean has a point that there as well that there was quality impact Day 1 WR talent in the second. Feel like we ain't have to jump to 11 at minimum. Brand New Ferrari DA did 100 of the lot.

The point you are missing is that they didn't want just ANY WR, they wanted THAT WR and according to Loomis himself they didn't feel he would be there at #16 or #19. They may have been able to get him at #12 or #13, but that would require those teams being willing to move down. It appears #11 was their only shot where they felt confident they could get him. Loomis said today that there were other WR's that they liked, but Olave was the one that they wanted above all for several reasons. If Washington wasn't willing to make the trade from #11 they would have had to settle for what they felt was less.

turbo_dog · 05-03-2022, 12:21 PM

If nobody else signs we'll have Thomas, Olave, Smith/Callaway. Plus Deonte Harris, who showed last season that he can play receiver as well. Not to mention Kawaan Baker from the practice squad who I hope gets another shot in camp this season. And we have UDFA to check out.

Trequan and Callaway as number three receivers should be very different than when they were trying to play number one receiver.

My bigger concern is at the TE position.

05-03-2022, 10:45 AM	#1
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,126	Re: Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints Originally Posted by K Major Dennis Allen’s team now. Going up & grabbing Olave is moving in the right direction at WR. Looking forward to camp and seeing different (coaches too) faces compete. This. Sean Payton was just saying the Saints don't need a WR in the 1st Round. Dennis Allen obviously disagreed. Payton was too stuck in his ways while the NFL was changing around him. The Rams at their peak had Cooper Kupp, Robert Woods, and Odell Beckham. That's without mentioning Van Jefferson. That's three #1's. Now they have Kupp and Allen Robinson. Still two #1 options. The Bengals had Ja'Marr Chase, Tee Higgins, and Tyler Boyd. The year before you had Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, and Antonio Brown vs Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins, and Travis Kelce. That receiver/tight end room has to go crazy to compete. In truth, we still need one more moving piece like Odell Beckham or Jarvis Landry to seal the deal. It gives you the depth to make it through injuries and also makes you close to unstoppable when everybody is fully healthy because most teams don't have a good enough DB room to handle all that. However...we do. turbo_dog, saintsfan1976, AsylumGuido and 6 others like this.
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05-03-2022, 10:50 AM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,062 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints Originally Posted by rezburna This. Sean Payton was just saying the Saints don't need a WR in the 1st Round. Dennis Allen obviously disagreed. Payton was too stuck in his ways while the NFL was changing around him. The Rams at their peak had Cooper Kupp, Robert Woods, and Odell Beckham. That's without mentioning Van Jefferson. That's three #1's. Now they have Kupp and Allen Robinson. Still two #1 options. The Bengals had Ja'Marr Chase, Tee Higgins, and Tyler Boyd. The year before you had Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, and Antonio Brown vs Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins, and Travis Kelce. That receiver/tight end room has to go crazy to compete. In truth, we still need one more moving piece like Odell Beckham or Jarvis Landry to seal the deal. It gives you the depth to make it through injuries and also makes you close to unstoppable when everybody is fully healthy because most teams don't have a good enough DB room to handle all that. However...we do. Mebbe.... we'll see if one of the rooks step up. If Landry is a WR3 , it's an expensive WR3. Not sure it's worth the price, even if we have the cap space. MatthewT, Rell&Gold and Boston Saint like this.

05-03-2022, 11:05 AM	#3
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints Originally Posted by SmashMouth Mebbe.... we'll see if one of the rooks step up. If Landry is a WR3 , it's an expensive WR3. Not sure it's worth the price, even if we have the cap space. This is kind of how I see it too. Between Callaway, Smith, White, Harris, Lil Jordan and the undrafted FAs we’ve signed I feel confident they can come up with players that will be viable 3rd, 4th and 5th options without taking on a Landry sized contract. I’d almost rather see that money used on D line depth or maybe Ebron as TE help or even a bet RB like Lindsay to help when Kamara misses games. SmashMouth likes this.

05-03-2022, 11:12 AM	#4
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,068 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints Originally Posted by SmashMouth Mebbe.... we'll see if one of the rooks step up. If Landry is a WR3 , it's an expensive WR3. Not sure it's worth the price, even if we have the cap space. To Rez's point we've done the "let's see who steps up" for some time now. It's no coincidence that the Rams with three bad ass WRs went to one SB with a mediocre QB and won it with a real QB. I think Jarvis is imperative and without checking dead money, would think we'd cut 2-3 WRs to make room for him. Easop, White, Merritt, Baker.... all candidates to be cut jnormand, AsylumGuido and K Major like this.

05-03-2022, 11:19 AM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,853 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 To Rez's point we've done the "let's see who steps up" for some time now. It's no coincidence that the Rams with three bad ass WRs went to one SB with a mediocre QB and won it with a real QB. I think Jarvis is imperative and without checking dead money, would think we'd cut 2-3 WRs to make room for him. Easop, White, Merritt, Baker.... all candidates to be cut I’m with you here. Enough of the development guys. Brees is long gone. You need legit threats 1-3 in the NFL. jnormand and rezburna like this.

05-03-2022, 11:14 AM	#6
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,068 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints Originally Posted by rezburna This. Sean Payton was just saying the Saints don't need a WR in the 1st Round. Dennis Allen obviously disagreed. Payton was too stuck in his ways while the NFL was changing around him. The Rams at their peak had Cooper Kupp, Robert Woods, and Odell Beckham. That's without mentioning Van Jefferson. That's three #1's. Now they have Kupp and Allen Robinson. Still two #1 options. The Bengals had Ja'Marr Chase, Tee Higgins, and Tyler Boyd. The year before you had Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, and Antonio Brown vs Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins, and Travis Kelce. That receiver/tight end room has to go crazy to compete. In truth, we still need one more moving piece like Odell Beckham or Jarvis Landry to seal the deal. It gives you the depth to make it through injuries and also makes you close to unstoppable when everybody is fully healthy because most teams don't have a good enough DB room to handle all that. However...we do. I read an article that basically ended with the question "Can Dennis Allen win the type of games Brees / Payton seemingly won for the team?" I wonder how many games DA will win by following a less predictable gameplan and stubbornness. rezburna likes this.

05-03-2022, 12:19 PM	#7
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,815	Re: Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints Originally Posted by rezburna This. Sean Payton was just saying the Saints don't need a WR in the 1st Round. Dennis Allen obviously disagreed. Payton was too stuck in his ways while the NFL was changing around him. Drew had Payton spoiled. He could make any WR they picked up look good. SmashMouth and Boston Saint like this.

05-03-2022, 01:43 PM	#8
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints Originally Posted by rezburna This. Sean Payton was just saying the Saints don't need a WR in the 1st Round. Dennis Allen obviously disagreed. Payton was too stuck in his ways while the NFL was changing around him. The Rams at their peak had Cooper Kupp, Robert Woods, and Odell Beckham. That's without mentioning Van Jefferson. That's three #1's. Now they have Kupp and Allen Robinson. Still two #1 options. The Bengals had Ja'Marr Chase, Tee Higgins, and Tyler Boyd. The year before you had Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, and Antonio Brown vs Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins, and Travis Kelce. That receiver/tight end room has to go crazy to compete. In truth, we still need one more moving piece like Odell Beckham or Jarvis Landry to seal the deal. It gives you the depth to make it through injuries and also makes you close to unstoppable when everybody is fully healthy because most teams don't have a good enough DB room to handle all that. However...we do. I get where you coming from I agree to an extent though. I think Sean has a point that there as well that there was quality impact Day 1 WR talent in the second. Feel like we ain't have to jump to 11 at minimum. Brand New Ferrari DA did 100 of the lot.

05-03-2022, 02:37 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,797	Re: Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints Originally Posted by Rell&Gold I get where you coming from I agree to an extent though. I think Sean has a point that there as well that there was quality impact Day 1 WR talent in the second. Feel like we ain't have to jump to 11 at minimum. Brand New Ferrari DA did 100 of the lot. The point you are missing is that they didn't want just ANY WR, they wanted THAT WR and according to Loomis himself they didn't feel he would be there at #16 or #19. They may have been able to get him at #12 or #13, but that would require those teams being willing to move down. It appears #11 was their only shot where they felt confident they could get him. Loomis said today that there were other WR's that they liked, but Olave was the one that they wanted above all for several reasons. If Washington wasn't willing to make the trade from #11 they would have had to settle for what they felt was less.
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05-03-2022, 12:21 PM	#10
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,709	Re: Jarvis Landry Signing With Saints If nobody else signs we'll have Thomas, Olave, Smith/Callaway. Plus Deonte Harris, who showed last season that he can play receiver as well. Not to mention Kawaan Baker from the practice squad who I hope gets another shot in camp this season. And we have UDFA to check out. Trequan and Callaway as number three receivers should be very different than when they were trying to play number one receiver. My bigger concern is at the TE position. SmashMouth and Boston Saint like this.