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SmashMouth 08-22-2022 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 956903)
Damn isn't that Ruiz pancaking his guy too? Penning might be rubbing off on him.

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 956910)
Fingers crossed

Yes, I believe so... can't believe I missed that little nugget.

SmashMouth 08-22-2022 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 956901)

You sure, DA?


SmashMouth 08-22-2022 03:58 PM

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SmashMouth 08-22-2022 04:00 PM

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AsylumGuido 08-22-2022 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 956923)

Getting a few snaps in the last preseason game doesn't seem like it would knock off any more rust than the next 14-15 practices prior to week one, don't you think? I think Allen would be more concerned with an opposing team looking to lay him out exposing him to an injury in an otherwise meaningless game than getting back to the sharpness he was showing prior to tweaking the foot.

It just seems like the cost/benefit of these games have shifted to the negative recently. The growing trend of teams holding out starters seems to support that thought.

SmashMouth 08-22-2022 04:43 PM

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AsylumGuido 08-22-2022 05:52 PM

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And for something less rosy, there's always Jeff Duncan.

;)


K Major 08-22-2022 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 956939)
And for something less rosy, there's always Jeff Duncan.

;)

https://twitter.com/JeffDuncan_/stat...46874595811330

What’s so bad about what Jeff wrote in the article ?

LB depth, cleaning up penalties, continuity on the back end, the uncertainty (Hurst not healthy) behind Trevor are legitimate concerns atm.

AsylumGuido 08-22-2022 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 956941)
What’s so bad about what Jeff wrote in the article ?

LB depth, cleaning up penalties, continuity on the back end, the uncertainty (Hurst not healthy) behind Trevor are legitimate concerns atm.

Where did I say there was anything wrong with what he wrote, K? :confused: He recently appeared in a voting bracket of "Saints' biggest villains". I was making fun of his reputation. He makes fun of it himself.

saintsfan1976 08-23-2022 06:18 AM

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Truth is, this team is far from rosy.

I look at past performance and to what degree things have to change, if enough change is possible.

Not concerned about the defense. Not concerned about special teams (actually impressed).

My biggest concern is the O line. Yeah, I know we have better coaches this season but the fact remains half of our o line is a big fat question mark and if they can't protect Jameis it won't matter how good our receivers are.

AsylumGuido 08-23-2022 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 956943)
Truth is, this team is far from rosy.

I look at past performance and to what degree things have to change, if enough change is possible.

Not concerned about the defense. Not concerned about special teams (actually impressed).

My biggest concern is the O line. Yeah, I know we have better coaches this season but the fact remains half of our o line is a big fat question mark and if they can't protect Jameis it won't matter how good our receivers are.

I agree the offensive line is the question mark. However, the improvement to the receiving corps (that includes TE) is colossal. We all know that pressure on the QB comes in two ways, the rush and coverage. Having targets that are actually capable of getting open AND catching the ball should take a lot of pressure off the line. Hopefully, if they can stay healthy and play enough games together, they will further gel as the season progresses.

Not to mention, I see us depending more upon the run game than we did last season. Penning is already showing he can be an absolute beast in run blocking and that was a strength of Ruiz, as well, while he did struggle with the passing game. Ramczyk and McCoy can hang with any other center and RT in the entire league. Peat ... just needs to stay healthy.

saintsfan1976 08-23-2022 08:11 AM

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None of that matters if defenders are in the backfield before receivers have time to get open.

I don't get the impression we'll have much if any scrambling from Jameis like we did last season.

So yeah, protecting Jameis is THE key to this team's performance.

SmashMouth 08-23-2022 08:18 AM

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This cat has nine lives...



SmashMouth 08-23-2022 08:20 AM

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K Major 08-23-2022 08:24 AM

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Saints are back at it, bright and early.

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SmashMouth 08-23-2022 08:24 AM

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saintsfan1976 08-23-2022 08:38 AM

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One team's cut, is another team's ......?

K Major 08-23-2022 08:44 AM

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Sounds like coach's really likes the skill set (versatility) of Kirk Merritt.

I had him as my dark horse at the beginning of t/c.

Well, let's see if he makes the squad ...

SmashMouth 08-23-2022 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 956943)
Truth is, this team is far from rosy.

I look at past performance and to what degree things have to change, if enough change is possible.

Not concerned about the defense. Not concerned about special teams (actually impressed).

My biggest concern is the O line. Yeah, I know we have better coaches this season but the fact remains half of our o line is a big fat question mark and if they can't protect Jameis it won't matter how good our receivers are.

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 956961)
Sounds like coach's really likes the skill set (versatility) of Kirk Merritt.

I had him as my dark horse at the beginning of t/c.

Well, let's see if he makes the squad ...

That's where Brees' quick reads and release helped a ton... Jameis needs to do his reads fast too. It's a fair point that we now have more capable talent in the short game. Focusing more on the run game where our new LT seems to already dominate should help some as well. They are trying out Merritt as a RB, who has as it turns out much experience as a RB. Thery must see something a bit elusive about his speed. Merritt seemed surprisingly confident when questioned at the presser about this move. Maybe we get to see some of that in the last preseason game.

AsylumGuido 08-23-2022 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 956963)
That's where Brees' quick reads and release helped a ton... Jameis needs to do his reads fast too. It's a fair point that we now have more capable talent in the short game. Focusing more on the run game where our new LT seems to already dominate should help some as well. They are trying out Merritt as a RB, who has as it turns out much experience as a RB. Thery must see something a bit elusive about his speed. Merritt seemed surprisingly confident when questioned at the presser about this move. Maybe we get to see some of that in the last preseason game.

Exactly!

SmashMouth 08-23-2022 09:33 AM

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AsylumGuido 08-23-2022 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 956952)
None of that matters if defenders are in the backfield before receivers have time to get open.

I don't get the impression we'll have much if any scrambling from Jameis like we did last season.

So yeah, protecting Jameis is THE key to this team's performance.

Yup. Protecting the QB is always the key. In what way that protection is accomplished is the question. Good solid pass blocking is, of course, the best method. So is relying heavily upon the run and the play action pass. So is, as Smash just pointed out, simply getting rid of the ball quickly. It'll be interesting to see which of these, or others, are successful come that 9-11 date.

AsylumGuido 08-23-2022 10:04 AM

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I'll be there, but please don't.


rezburna 08-23-2022 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 956979)

One drive with a maximum of four runs and four passes for the starters wouldn't be too bad.

K Major 08-23-2022 10:50 AM

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Coach wants to see how the continuity looks for a drive or two.

Nothing wrong with that.

Ruiz, Penning, Trautman, and Vannett need as much live competition as possible before it gets real vs the dirty birds.

JW & MT need to be on the same page. It's been a while for both.

AsylumGuido 08-23-2022 11:45 AM

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Here's some really big news!


AsylumGuido 08-23-2022 11:46 AM

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AsylumGuido 08-23-2022 11:48 AM

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This guy is a difference maker much like Darren Sharper back in 2009.


AsylumGuido 08-23-2022 11:50 AM

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AsylumGuido 08-23-2022 11:53 AM

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Penning progressing well.


Sounds like Jameis can still scramble, if need be.


AsylumGuido 08-23-2022 11:54 AM

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Comeback player of the year? Maybe.



AsylumGuido 08-23-2022 12:03 PM

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AsylumGuido 08-23-2022 12:05 PM

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AsylumGuido 08-23-2022 02:16 PM

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K Major 08-23-2022 03:30 PM

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AsylumGuido 08-23-2022 04:12 PM

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Really, really good article here!


AsylumGuido 08-23-2022 04:26 PM

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