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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by SmashMouth Again, it seems to me Johnson just launched himself at Penning’s hip. No attempt to hit a defender at all. Very strange play. Bako should blame Goodell!...

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Old 08-28-2022, 11:46 AM   #21
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Re: Observation from the Saints win vs Chargers

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Again, it seems to me Johnson just launched himself at Penning’s hip. No attempt to hit a defender at all. Very strange play. Bako should blame Goodell!
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Old 08-28-2022, 01:37 PM   #22
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Team all looking good. Glad to get a win in preseason. It is still preseason. Reserving judgement till the real bullets fly.
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Damn...I miss JPs take on stuff. Damn...
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We'll see... it's not it's like it's an achilles injury. Depending on severity, there is an outside chance for a return late n the football year.
Per the reports I've read, it's a completely torn ligament.

6 months minimum.

Ice up Trevor.
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Old 08-29-2022, 05:02 PM   #26
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I've just rewatched the play and it was such an unnecessary move made by Johnson.

His only job there is to seal the backside edge, but theres 2 things in play here;

- Penning basically took 2 players out of the equation due to his size anyway. There was 100% no need to dive low at anyone at all, by the time Johnson has dove, Ingram is already past him and in the end zone.
Why not just stand up and read the defenders, rather than just diving with no thought and taking out your own teammate?

- The ball was snapped on the 2 yard line and with Penning creating the shield he does, it's unlikely that the outside defender gets even close to Ingram in any way shape or form, when Ingram is only reading the A or B gap.

Such a stupid, unnecessary move that Johnson should lose game time for.
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Old 08-29-2022, 05:49 PM   #27
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I've just rewatched the play and it was such an unnecessary move made by Johnson.

His only job there is to seal the backside edge, but theres 2 things in play here;

- Penning basically took 2 players out of the equation due to his size anyway. There was 100% no need to dive low at anyone at all, by the time Johnson has dove, Ingram is already past him and in the end zone.
Why not just stand up and read the defenders, rather than just diving with no thought and taking out your own teammate?

- The ball was snapped on the 2 yard line and with Penning creating the shield he does, it's unlikely that the outside defender gets even close to Ingram in any way shape or form, when Ingram is only reading the A or B gap.

Such a stupid, unnecessary move that Johnson should lose game time for.
I was saying something similar in the Penning thread dizz.
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Old 08-30-2022, 06:34 AM   #28
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Reported Turf Toe injury. What's the healing time for something like this?
Ingram was diagnosed with Turf Toe December 4th 2011 Surgery in Jan 2012 then missed 5 games in 2013 for the same pedal area.

I found this and as you pointed out, it seems that it depends on the severity: "Grade 1 injuries may resolve partially or fully within one week. Grade 2 injuries may take around 2 weeks to resolve. Grade 3 injuries may require anywhere from 2 to 6 months before healing is complete."

So to Boston's point, expect him back sometime between Friday and February.
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Ingram was diagnosed with Turf Toe December 4th 2011 Surgery in Jan 2012 then missed 5 games in 2013 for the same pedal area.

I found this and as you pointed out, it seems that it depends on the severity: "Grade 1 injuries may resolve partially or fully within one week. Grade 2 injuries may take around 2 weeks to resolve. Grade 3 injuries may require anywhere from 2 to 6 months before healing is complete."

So to Boston's point, expect him back sometime between Friday and February.
I'm hoping for Friday but betting money on February. My guess is the Saints are too.
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Old 08-30-2022, 04:15 PM   #30
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Again, it seems to me Johnson just launched himself at Penning’s hip. No attempt to hit a defender at all. Very strange play. Bako should blame Goodell!
I thought the same exact thing when I watched the replay. Pissed me off.

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