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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by BakoSaint I am glad we won, but the fact that we almost lost to what many consider the worst team in the league is strong evidence for why we should have kept our 2023 1st round pick ...

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Old 09-12-2022, 02:31 PM   #91
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I am glad we won, but the fact that we almost lost to what many consider the worst team in the league is strong evidence for why we should have kept our 2023 1st round pick as insurance. If the ball bounces a different way and we start the season with a loss to Atlanta, or if one of those free releases gets Winston injured instead of Prescott, its not hard to see a team that can lose to Atlanta week 1 and depends on a lot of veterans with scary injury histories ending up with the #1 overall pick. Olave was good but was our #3 receiver. Penning fought teammates in camp and then got injured. Having two first round picks was not critical, it wasn't the difference in this game. The salary one was paid could have got us another veteran who might have made similar impact, or a 2nd round pick could have made a few timely catches like Olave made. We have to keep playing to win, but I hate losing that pick because there is no consolation prize if we lose, and realistically Tampa is going to be a lot better than Atlanta. I don't buy any argument that Atlanta is very underrated, maybe they are the worst team in the league or maybe not, but they are definitely bottom 5-10. We are lucky we opened with the homecoming game.

Winston is a high ceiling QB and performed as well as any QB not named Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes. His injury scare reminds us that we need to protect him better. I continue to believe that Dennis Allen is a bigger question mark than Jameis Winston, based on their previous records with the top job in the NFL, and based on their qualifications coming into a top job in the NFL. Winston showed what he can do if the offense is suited to the personnel and the wide receivers are not all undrafted free agents and low level journeymen. Allen ran the wrong offense for 3 quarters, tried to impose a bruising running game with a makeshift oline and dink and and dunk without any dinkers or dunkers. Allen oversaw a team that committed a lot of dumb penalties and poor clock management. I did not see a team that was clean in its execution or wise in its strategy, I saw a team that was coached like a 4-12 Raiders outfit just playing ball and not sweating the details, which was then carried to a win at the end on the backs of Winston's arm and the receivers hands. Hopefully Allen will focus on the details and execution, word on discipline and clock management, and let Winston cook on offense.

Taysom Hill has always been very talented as a ball carrier. But from his history we know he has been made of glass. Every game he suits up we should consider a blessing. Building too much of the offense around him would be a mistake due to his lack of durability. The 4th quarter offense based on trusting our receivers and QB to make big plays is more sustainable. Gadget plays with Taysom will be more effective if we use them sparingly enough that that catch opponents by surprise and leave him fresh, while if we keep going back to those plays when one works, they will stop working and we will lose Hill.

Its not a plus that all of our points were scored by players coming off serious injuries. Its a risk. Maybe next week most of our points will be scored by players facing criminal charges in ongoing investigations. Not good either.

We have a lot of versatile weapons on our offense. Kamara is a threat at WR. Johnson can play TE/WR. Hill can play TE/FB/QB. Given all this versatility we shouldn't need as much depth as other teams at those positions and didn't see much need for Trainwreck Smith or Adam Troutman and neither caught a pass. I wonder if their roster spots might better be utilized on extra depth at oline. We could make Smith available for trade at the cost of a conditional 2025 7th round pick based on blocking statistics and if nobody takes him, we could offer him a job as an assistant WR coach to teach people who can get open and catch how to block better. Juwan Johnson's hurdle was awesome.

Kyle Pitts had 7 targets for 2 receptions. This is why you don't draft a TE that early. Yeah yeah yeah he could change the position blah blah blah. Playing TE in the NFL is different, you are exposed, defenseless, stretched out to make the grab over the middle, with the scariest men on the planet bearing down on you. Nobody can predict who can endure that and still perform well enough to justify that high of a pick. The odds are Pitts wont. He's more likely to change sports medicine with some surgery he has after doing some Michael Jordan bs to make an amazing catch midfield and then getting drilled.

2021 Jameis Winston > 2022 Aaron Rodgers. 2022 Aaron Rodgers is suffering due to lack a proven WR but still has a couple high draft pick WRs and mid level free agents with past success. 2021 Jameis Winston had undrafted free agents and bottom of the barrel failed journeymen who planned to retire and play Lacrosse before the Saints paid them to slap on a uniform. Jameis Winston could have made some noise last year with the receivers Rodgers has this year.
I think Atlanta is better than what they’re being given credit for. They’re really just missing weapons at the WR position and an above average QB. Mariota is just average. More than anything styles make fights, and their style gave our defense issues early on. Offensively it was just a poorly called game until the 4th Quarter. We’re a passing team. Gotta accept that.
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So pray tell... What did happen when JW entered the tent? Did he ingest crab legs juice? Did Drew Brees enter his body for the 4th quarter? Did he get an earful from his old lady?

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16 points. The largest 4th quarter comeback in Saints history.

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Michael Thomas, a man possessed


Michael Thomas, a man possessed

The monster has been unleashed.

By Sterling Mclymont Sep 13, 2022, 8:00am CDT

For the past 2 seasons almost, Michael Thomas has either been playing through injury or on the shelf all together. The wait for Thomas to return has been both a long one for his team and the fans as well. Prior to his return, there were a few who voiced opinions on whether or not Thomas would be the same offensive weapon he was in days of past.

On Sunday, all doubters were put to rest as Thomas would not only return but did so in grand fashion as he exploded in the 4th quarter helping the New Orleans Saints overcome the Atlanta Falcons. Thomas played with such an intensity that some would say he played as if he were a man possessed. The monster has been unleased ladies and gentlemen.



5 receptions for 57 yards & 2 touchdowns may not seem like much but given that there wasn’t much going for the offense until the 4th quarter, these stats still hold weight considering that they came in such a short amount of time. Once the offense began to click, Thomas would switch into a different mode making it a long 4th quarter for AJ Terrell who found out why Thomas is known as “Can’t Guard Mike.”

Thomas played with the intensity that we all knew he had. Not only was he playing to help his team achieve victory, but he was also playing to prove everyone wrong. If Thomas continues playing like this, he very may well be on track to have another record season, making this a comeback for the ages.

“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill
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