Best and worst Saints PFF player grades from Week 2 vs. Buccaneers

Boston Saint · 09-20-2022, 12:33 PM

Agree mostly papz. To his credit in post game Winston admitted he needs to be better. The run game was great!....until the fumble and then we struggled.

The Jekyll/Hyde nature you describe of Winston may be par for the course for NFL QBs. Look at Cousins last week vs this week. Look at Murray. Burroughs is still finding his way. Hell, Brady had a mediocre week. Just food for thought.

Lord_Saint83 · 09-20-2022, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Agree mostly papz. To his credit in post game Winston admitted he needs to be better. The run game was great!....until the fumble and then we struggled.

The Jekyll/Hyde nature you describe of Winston may be par for the course for NFL QBs. Look at Cousins last week vs this week. Look at Murray. Burroughs is still finding his way. Hell, Brady had a mediocre week. Just food for thought.

Cousins has always been a mixed bag. Until he plays us for some damn reason but I still say not playing starters in the preseason will have this chemistry and timing issue. KC started their starters and they look in sync.

shawnkytonk · 09-20-2022, 01:05 PM

Winston gives us the best chance to win. Plain and simple. I'm not ready to write him off after this one game. It's evident he's still developing chemistry with the WRs. Thomas and Olave are about to go off.

papz · 09-20-2022, 01:50 PM

I don't think any one of us wants to see Jameis fail. He does give us our best chance at making the playoffs. We just can't be reliant on his arm in doing so. Bad things happen when Jameis throws the ball a lot. It didn't work in Tampa and it won't here. That's something I hope Allen and Carmichael realize sooner than later. Nothing wrong with managing a game, running the football, and playing defense.

The Dude · 09-20-2022, 01:57 PM

About the only positive I can take from this game is the major improvement along the offensive line against one of the leagues best defenses. Winston and Olave should be working overtime this week to get their timing down. Some of those balls were so off target I have a hard time putting the blame on Olave.
I’ve been a Winston supporter and admire the hell out of his toughness, leadership, and attitude but I hope DA doesn’t wait until it’s too late to make a switch if it comes to that. I think Dalton could have a good year with us .

Budsdrinker · 09-21-2022, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

About the only positive I can take from this game is the major improvement along the offensive line against one of the leagues best defenses. Winston and Olave should be working overtime this week to get their timing down. Some of those balls were so off target I have a hard time putting the blame on Olave.
I’ve been a Winston supporter and admire the hell out of his toughness, leadership, and attitude but I hope DA doesn’t wait until it’s too late to make a switch if it comes to that. I think Dalton could have a good year with us .

They did get their timing right on the last pass and Olave fumbled the ball hitting the ground. This was lack of playing together in preseason. Game speed and practice speed are 2 completely different speeds. I just don't think we need to throw this 6 times a game.

K Major · 09-20-2022, 02:03 PM

LB Pete Werner: 88.4

Another outstanding game ^^ & is good in coverage.

Not a lot of talking, just does his job well.

Pete · 09-20-2022, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

LB Pete Werner: 88.4

Another outstanding game ^^ & is good in coverage.

Not a lot of talking, just does his job well.

That dude is Old School Legit and to watch his demeanor makes me have hope that real football is not dead!

We need 3 more of him

Lord_Saint83 · 09-20-2022, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

LB Pete Werner: 88.4

Another outstanding game ^^ & is good in coverage.

Not a lot of talking, just does his job well.

I was sooo wrong about Pete. I’m glad to eat crow on that. Looks like I’ll have to eat some crow for Alontae too

K Major · 09-20-2022, 03:55 PM

The bottom line is Winston needs to play better. He's performed poorly for two straight weeks. Lack of pocket awareness, holding the ball too long whatever, do better.

Now if he's injured and needs to get healthy, have a seat. Dalton is more than capable vs Carolina.

We all just want to win.

09-20-2022, 12:33 PM	#1
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Best and worst Saints PFF player grades from Week 2 vs. Buccaneers Agree mostly papz. To his credit in post game Winston admitted he needs to be better. The run game was great!....until the fumble and then we struggled. The Jekyll/Hyde nature you describe of Winston may be par for the course for NFL QBs. Look at Cousins last week vs this week. Look at Murray. Burroughs is still finding his way. Hell, Brady had a mediocre week. Just food for thought. Lord_Saint83 likes this.

09-20-2022, 12:54 PM	#2
Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Best and worst Saints PFF player grades from Week 2 vs. Buccaneers Originally Posted by Boston Saint Agree mostly papz. To his credit in post game Winston admitted he needs to be better. The run game was great!....until the fumble and then we struggled. The Jekyll/Hyde nature you describe of Winston may be par for the course for NFL QBs. Look at Cousins last week vs this week. Look at Murray. Burroughs is still finding his way. Hell, Brady had a mediocre week. Just food for thought. Cousins has always been a mixed bag. Until he plays us for some damn reason but I still say not playing starters in the preseason will have this chemistry and timing issue. KC started their starters and they look in sync. Boston Saint likes this.

09-20-2022, 01:05 PM	#3
shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: Best and worst Saints PFF player grades from Week 2 vs. Buccaneers Winston gives us the best chance to win. Plain and simple. I'm not ready to write him off after this one game. It's evident he's still developing chemistry with the WRs. Thomas and Olave are about to go off. cmike, K Major and Boston Saint like this.

09-20-2022, 01:50 PM	#4
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,768	Re: Best and worst Saints PFF player grades from Week 2 vs. Buccaneers I don't think any one of us wants to see Jameis fail. He does give us our best chance at making the playoffs. We just can't be reliant on his arm in doing so. Bad things happen when Jameis throws the ball a lot. It didn't work in Tampa and it won't here. That's something I hope Allen and Carmichael realize sooner than later. Nothing wrong with managing a game, running the football, and playing defense. iceshack149, Pete, cmike and 2 others like this.

09-20-2022, 01:57 PM	#5
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Best and worst Saints PFF player grades from Week 2 vs. Buccaneers About the only positive I can take from this game is the major improvement along the offensive line against one of the leagues best defenses. Winston and Olave should be working overtime this week to get their timing down. Some of those balls were so off target I have a hard time putting the blame on Olave. I’ve been a Winston supporter and admire the hell out of his toughness, leadership, and attitude but I hope DA doesn’t wait until it’s too late to make a switch if it comes to that. I think Dalton could have a good year with us . Pete and Boston Saint like this.
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09-21-2022, 10:53 AM	#6
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Best and worst Saints PFF player grades from Week 2 vs. Buccaneers Originally Posted by The Dude About the only positive I can take from this game is the major improvement along the offensive line against one of the leagues best defenses. Winston and Olave should be working overtime this week to get their timing down. Some of those balls were so off target I have a hard time putting the blame on Olave. I’ve been a Winston supporter and admire the hell out of his toughness, leadership, and attitude but I hope DA doesn’t wait until it’s too late to make a switch if it comes to that. I think Dalton could have a good year with us . They did get their timing right on the last pass and Olave fumbled the ball hitting the ground. This was lack of playing together in preseason. Game speed and practice speed are 2 completely different speeds. I just don't think we need to throw this 6 times a game. Lord_Saint83 likes this.

09-20-2022, 02:03 PM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Best and worst Saints PFF player grades from Week 2 vs. Buccaneers LB Pete Werner: 88.4 Another outstanding game ^^ & is good in coverage. Not a lot of talking, just does his job well. Lord_Saint83 and Boston Saint like this.

09-20-2022, 02:08 PM	#8
Pete • Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Patterson, LA Posts: 1,756	Re: Best and worst Saints PFF player grades from Week 2 vs. Buccaneers Originally Posted by K Major LB Pete Werner: 88.4 Another outstanding game ^^ & is good in coverage. Not a lot of talking, just does his job well. That dude is Old School Legit and to watch his demeanor makes me have hope that real football is not dead! We need 3 more of him Lord_Saint83 likes this.

09-20-2022, 02:09 PM	#9
Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Best and worst Saints PFF player grades from Week 2 vs. Buccaneers Originally Posted by K Major LB Pete Werner: 88.4 Another outstanding game ^^ & is good in coverage. Not a lot of talking, just does his job well. I was sooo wrong about Pete. I’m glad to eat crow on that. Looks like I’ll have to eat some crow for Alontae too Pete and K Major like this.

09-20-2022, 03:55 PM	#10
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Best and worst Saints PFF player grades from Week 2 vs. Buccaneers The bottom line is Winston needs to play better. He's performed poorly for two straight weeks. Lack of pocket awareness, holding the ball too long whatever, do better. Now if he's injured and needs to get healthy, have a seat. Dalton is more than capable vs Carolina. We all just want to win. Pete likes this.

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