I don't think we could actually catch refs fixing games. Its possible but unlikely. But a private investigator can find lots of other things. I think some refs have intergrity and others lack it, and those that lack integrity are more likely the ones following Goodell's unspoken grudge against us from bountygate, and their own ref grudge against us from the no call, and being biased against us. The key it to pressure or remove the refs that lack integrity, and to do that we don't need to catch them fixing games. We can catch them cheating on their wives. We can catch them drinking and driving. We can catch them doing meth. Anything is good that gets a morally questionable ref fired from the NFL, causes them to quit the NFL (wife says no more road trips after they are caught cheating, or divorce leads to a child custody fight where they can't tell the court they are gone every weekend half the year), or causes them to stop making so many bad calls against us for fear of being investigated in their personal lives. The idea is that if refs make our seasons difficult, we try to investigate them fixing games, but in the process we end up making their personal lives much more difficult. Goodell has a lot of power, he has billions, but he can't make a refs wife stay if we get pictures of the ref with a stripper on the road. If we force enough 'sinner' refs out of the league, we will get more 'saint' refs who have a strong sense of personal integrity in how they call games, and the rest of the sinner refs may back off in order to sin in private. The point is not to influence the league, its to influence the refs directly to call a fair game or have their personal life under a lens.

Are you for real?

Yes I don't think Saints fans should allow referees to abuse us forever with no consequences. I think we should create consequences for them using any legal means.

Okie dokie then. I wish you and yours good luck with those windmills.

And I wish you good luck waiting for those totally unbiased but of course occasionally debatable calls to start breaking our way in the 4th quarter and playoffs. Should be happening any time now right? We are due? But still, might want to invest in a comfy chair while you wait.

I repeat, EVERY fanbase have people that believe the same biases exist against their teams and they all have some instance in which they base that bias. Are you right and all of them wrong? Or are all of you right? Or are all of you wrong?

We, as humans, tend to forget those things that work out in our favor as opposed to those things that cause us pain. Point of view is powerful in the way we see events.

The statistics are right: the Saints have finished 30th, 31st, 32nd, and tied for 31st in penalties called (both accepted and declined) against their opponents in 2018, 2019, 2020, and 20201. Four straight seasons.

We, as humans, tend to be divided into individuals who are submissive and accept abuse and individuals who are assertive and fight abuse. Enjoy your comfy chair. When the bad things happen to you, tell yourself you deserve them, and its all perspective. I will continue to feel we don't deserve these bad calls. You can side with the Falcons Fans that we do.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...eir-opponents/

The statistics are right: the Saints have finished 30th, 31st, 32nd, and tied for 31st in penalties called (both accepted and declined) against their opponents in 2018, 2019, 2020, and 20201. Four straight seasons.

We, as humans, tend to be divided into individuals who are submissive and accept abuse and individuals who are assertive and fight abuse. Enjoy your comfy chair. When the bad things happen to you, tell yourself you deserve them, and its all perspective. I will continue to feel we don't deserve these bad calls. You can side with the Falcons Fans that we do.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...eir-opponents/