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Has the light come on for Ruiz?

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Perhaps if you compare it to Little League. I would expect more from the first player drafted in a Little League baseball draft than the last few left. On the other hand, you should have similar ...

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Old 09-26-2022, 03:05 PM   #31
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
Perhaps if you compare it to Little League. I would expect more from the first player drafted in a Little League baseball draft than the last few left.

On the other hand, you should have similar expectations if you are making the comparisons in a top professional league where everyone is an elite athlete. McLaren-Honda has a similar level of competitiveness as Ferrari in Formula One, do they not?

Draft status expectations are media and fan biased. Coaches undoubtedly have far more access to the individual athletes and see them as such. Individual athletes. They shouldn't care when, where, or how a player was acquired. They should only want the best performer available to them on the field.
BS.

Then why have rounds at all?

Why not draw names out of a hat instead??
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Old 09-26-2022, 03:10 PM   #32
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Is it the player's fault if his skills and potential have been incorrectly evaluated by the scouts and the front office?

Is it the player's responsibility to live up to the expectations that come with those evaluations and the following draft capital that is spent on acquiring him?

If the player is trying his best to perform to the best of his abilities - most if not all of the blame for him not meeting these expectations lay on the organization that drafted him and/or were unable to coach him up to reach his potential.

I don't see the connection between cars and steakes and a human being playing football.
I wouldn't say improper evaluation is the fault of anyone necessarily. Like any relationship one side may see more than is really there out of need or want from the athlete.

the real question is this - would you eat a flank steak while driving a ferrari???
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Old 09-26-2022, 03:17 PM   #33
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BS.

Then why have rounds at all?

Why not draw names out of a hat instead??
Because it wouldn't be a "draft".

I "expect" many players picked high to do well. I also "expect" some not to do well. Same with all rookies whenever they are acquired. Each team selects who they hope to be the best for them when their turn arrives in a draft. They hope their pre-draft evaluations are correct, but there is no guarantee and no one will know how it turns out until later. "Later" varies greatly from player to player, however, it seems.
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Old 09-26-2022, 03:24 PM   #34
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I wouldn't say improper evaluation is the fault of anyone necessarily. Like any relationship one side may see more than is really there out of need or want from the athlete.

the real question is this - would you eat a flank steak while driving a ferrari???
Nope. Too dangerous.

But, when it comes to flank steak, how you prepare it matters. It makes a great tacos al carbon. It can be melt in your mouth tender.
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Old 09-26-2022, 03:24 PM   #35
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Because it wouldn't be a "draft".

I "expect" many players picked high to do well. I also "expect" some not to do well. Same with all rookies whenever they are acquired. Each team selects who they hope to be the best for them when their turn arrives in a draft. They hope their pre-draft evaluations are correct, but there is no guarantee and no one will know how it turns out until later. "Later" varies greatly from player to player, however, it seems.
Nothing is a guarantee. In fact most 1st rounders probably don't pan out.

They're still considered a wasted pick.

Period.
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Old 09-26-2022, 03:33 PM   #36
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Nothing is a guarantee. In fact most 1st rounders probably don't pan out.

They're still considered a wasted pick.

Period.
That is an absolute. No guarantee, for sure. Nobody knows what to "expect" until until the eventual success or failure is realized. That sometimes takes several seasons.
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the real question is this - would you eat a flank steak while driving a ferrari???
I've always been more partial to consuming my meats in a Lambo.
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Old 09-27-2022, 06:43 AM   #38
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That is an absolute. No guarantee, for sure. Nobody knows what to "expect" until until the eventual success or failure is realized. That sometimes takes several seasons.
And Ruiz is on the doorstep of poor draft choice.
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Old 09-27-2022, 07:55 AM   #39
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I've always been more partial to consuming my meats in a Lambo.
I'll eat jerky in anything derivable. Never in a box with a fox though...
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I'll eat jerky in anything derivable. Never in a box with a fox though...
Just make sure you don’t drink and derive!
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