|
this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Thank You bako. You bring up good questions and valid points. I know I don’t have the answers. I will say this though… I’ve lived in a lot of areas in the gold old USA that followed a lot of ...
![]() |
|
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools | Display Modes |
|
![]() |
#1 |
5000 POSTS! +
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 5,137
|
Re: Has the light come on for Ruiz?
Thank You bako. You bring up good questions and valid points. I know I don’t have the answers. I will say this though…
I’ve lived in a lot of areas in the gold old USA that followed a lot of different teams in a lot of different sports. It’s a cliché to say they all want to win. I don’t believe that; some want to win more than others. Some area fans care more. Some take it for granted more. I spent 25+ years in the Bay area. I’ve seen the Niners and the raiders win Super Bowls while living amongst their fans. I saw the Giants and the A’s win championships and the Golden State Warriors bring home a trophy. Likewise, here in Boston, I watched the Celtics, Pats, Red Sox, and Bruins all either play for or win a title. During all of this in both areas I got to observe with and interact with their fans. Just like I saw all those teams win, I saw them lose! I saw them struggle. All those teams (pats aside) struggled through years that got them too 5 draft pics repeatedly. Saw fan interest rise and fall. I guess my rambling point is I’m thankful for what we’ve had and to be competitive and to appreciate how tough it is to compete at this level. Lots of very wealthy owners try their best to win it in the NFL and they can’t get it done. Lots of times they don’t even come close. A good friend of mine up here is a Jets fan. Can you imagine the crap he takes? At least fans outside of Louisiana give the saints and their fans respect. Let’s hope it continues. |
You think you know, but you don’t know...and you never will! Coach Jim Mora
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#2 |
10000 POST CLUB
|
Re: Has the light come on for Ruiz?
Originally Posted by BakoSaint
I seem to recall Peat's father was a close friend of Payton's?![]()
Ruiz felt like a reach maybe after the Saints just missed out on Justin Jefferson and Kenneth Murray in back to back picks. Just my opinion |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#3 |
5000 POSTS! +
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 5,137
|
Re: Has the light come on for Ruiz?
Originally Posted by BakoSaint
Again. You bring up good questions. The answers are hard to find.
![]()
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#4 |
10000 POST CLUB
|
Re: Has the light come on for Ruiz?
Originally Posted by BakoSaint
I like this take. Certainly not a player's fault for being over-drafted. ![]()
Still. A bust is a bust, blame is harder to determine for certain. |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#5 |
5000 POSTS! +
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 5,137
|
Re: Has the light come on for Ruiz?
Over drafted, no. The last player that was over drafted I recall was Baptiste. I.e he was a reach in that drafted before he was predicted to be drafted. Turner and Davenport may have been too. I don’t think Peat fits that description though. He went about where he was supposed to.
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#6 |
Site Donor 2015
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia
Posts: 4,963
|
Re: Has the light come on for Ruiz?
I'm not saying that I don't personally do this myself, but I'm just wondering if I too am in the wrong when placing the blame on the player for not fulfilling the expectations that come with their draft status.
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#7 |
10000 POST CLUB
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Bossier City, LA
Posts: 26,484
|
Re: Has the light come on for Ruiz?
There seems to be a case of differing expectations. I never "expect" rookies to hit the field running especially in positions that take a lot of practice and cohesion. That may be the reason why I really don't get overly excited by the draft itself. There's always hope, but not really any special expectations as far as I'm concerned over any of the players once they are rostered. None more than any other.
To be honest, I couldn't name the draft round of any player if it wasn't for someone complaining about where they were taken over and over again. ![]() |
“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#9 |
Resident Swede
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Märsta, Sweden
Posts: 8,030
|
Re: Has the light come on for Ruiz?
I kept watching Ruiz during the game and while I'm not ready to anoint him an all-pro yet he looks a whole lot better thatn the sack of boiled **** that was his play last season. Some really good snaps in one on one passrush situations and som good stuff in the run too.
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#10 |
10000 POST CLUB
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Cypress Tx.
Posts: 19,039
|
Re: Has the light come on for Ruiz?
All interesting questions but I am not seeing one consideration.
A player performing to their best is only half the equation isn't it? Draft round is not determined solely on ability, and evaluation is both isolated to player and again against the class. Draft round is determined by where a player falls within the class... This years 1st might have been last years 3rd. To put it bluntly the best QB in next years draft could be mediocre at best but go in the 1st round because he is the best in the draft and a team is drafting PON. Even if we draft BPA for the first round the A stands for available not All American. An entire draft class could be absolute horse crap but 32 still need to go in the first round and I have yet to see a single player decline being picked in the 1st round because he didn't want to get paid.. even though he knew he was going to get trucked on the field. No one is innocent and comparing 1st round picks from different years is apples to oranges. ![]() |
It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
|
|