Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers

BakoSaint · 09-25-2022, 04:46 PM

This is 110% on Mickey Loomis. No QB can win with our lousy oline. We traded nexts years pick to stack our offense and this is our offense. Dalton who couldnt start on the Bears and lost when he filled it wont make it better. To win we need money and picks to rebuild the oline but Loomis wont keep picks and wont clean up the cap, he will just sign Peat and Ruiz to extensions that pass the buck down the road, make them Saints for life. Forget Winston. Forget Allen. Cleanup needs to start on the top.

K Major · 09-25-2022, 04:48 PM

Sorry fam but Jameis Winston ain’t that dude.

We don’t have that type of Oline to give him 5 seconds to survey the field.

Atlanta, Tampa and Carolina ALL BLITZED simply because he does not diagnose what a “hot read” is.

His decisions have been poor & it’s not changing.

Brees truly spoiled us.

K Major · 09-25-2022, 04:57 PM

Pete Carmichael hasn’t been good but he isn’t responsible for stopping the blitz. It’s up to the QB check out of the original play and the Oline to adjust accordingly.

Again, DECISION MAKING at QB is poor through 3 games.

Saints need a spark offensively.

AsylumGuido · 09-25-2022, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Pete Carmichael hasn’t been good but he isn’t responsible for stopping the blitz. It’s up to the QB check out of the original play and the Oline to adjust accordingly.

Again, DECISION MAKING at QB is poor through 3 games.

Saints need a spark offensively.

I guess a spark is hopeless when the ENTIRE o-line is terrible.

subguy · 09-25-2022, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I guess a spark is hopeless when the ENTIRE o-line is terrible.

Your arrogance will cause you to always place blame anywhere but who you have championed for. You will never admit Jameis is not the answer and MT is a glass tiger. I am sure you read my post above and know I think Thomas has caught some passes, but he lacks a certain something.

WW_Who_Dat · 09-25-2022, 06:30 PM

Many here have pointed out all the things that are not going well for the Saints. Oline, offensive play calling and Dennis Allen not up to task.

All valid points but we just don’t stand a chance with a QB with little to no pocket awareness and a reasonable Football IQ. He cannot read defenses and it seems like if his first read, be short or midrange, is not open all bets are off. Besides the block pass interception how many time did he throw straight into raised arms of the defenders. I can’t recall Winston throwing the ball away this year, please correct me if I’m wrong.

Allen needs to make the QB change this week with Winston behind center we might be early first round pick in the next draft.

AsylumGuido · 09-25-2022, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat

Many here have pointed out all the things that are not going well for the Saints. Oline, offensive play calling and Dennis Allen not up to task.

All valid points but we just don’t stand a chance with a QB with little to no pocket awareness and a reasonable Football IQ. He cannot read defenses and it seems like if his first read, be short or midrange, is not open all bets are off. Besides the block pass interception how many time did he throw straight into raised arms of the defenders. I can’t recall Winston throwing the ball away this year, please correct me if I’m wrong.

Allen needs to make the QB change this week with Winston behind center we might be early first round pick in the next draft.

We don't have a first round pick in the next draft.

NewfieSaint · 09-25-2022, 06:51 PM

Sad to say but I’m not excited to watch this team anymore.. just no fire. I will continue to watch but it is hard. And next week is a London game.. oh boy

WW_Who_Dat · 09-26-2022, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

We don't have a first round pick in the next draft.

Yet … Never say never with Loomis.

GeauxForMore · 09-25-2022, 07:08 PM

First off, I want to say I love our defense. Those boys played lights out for us today. Secondly, I have never been a Winston fan and never will be one. He is who he is, a turnover machine and he will never be better. You can blame the o-line, WR, play calling, whatever, but everything starts with the QB. Injury or not the QB play helps everything. Quick decision making helps with the o-line and WR play. KAMARA is the best threat we have as a receiving threat and the ball wont be checked down. Ppl want to blame play calling, but there was a reason Winston had a good year last year before he got hurt. SP held him back and ppl wanted him to air it out. Air it out for Winston means interceptions. With our D, we will be in every game. We need someone who can manage the game. Winston can't do it. There was a reason why DA went for the rapist and Wilson before the start of the season. Without a first round pick in 2023, we are in some trouble boys. Hopefully our D plays lights out for the rest of the season, because that's the only chance we will win.

09-25-2022, 04:46 PM	#1
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,389	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers This is 110% on Mickey Loomis. No QB can win with our lousy oline. We traded nexts years pick to stack our offense and this is our offense. Dalton who couldnt start on the Bears and lost when he filled it wont make it better. To win we need money and picks to rebuild the oline but Loomis wont keep picks and wont clean up the cap, he will just sign Peat and Ruiz to extensions that pass the buck down the road, make them Saints for life. Forget Winston. Forget Allen. Cleanup needs to start on the top.
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09-25-2022, 04:48 PM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,828 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers Sorry fam but Jameis Winston ain’t that dude. We don’t have that type of Oline to give him 5 seconds to survey the field. Atlanta, Tampa and Carolina ALL BLITZED simply because he does not diagnose what a “hot read” is. His decisions have been poor & it’s not changing. Brees truly spoiled us. jnormand, SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

09-25-2022, 04:57 PM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,828 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers Pete Carmichael hasn’t been good but he isn’t responsible for stopping the blitz. It’s up to the QB check out of the original play and the Oline to adjust accordingly. Again, DECISION MAKING at QB is poor through 3 games. Saints need a spark offensively. subguy, jnormand and SmashMouth like this.

09-25-2022, 04:59 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers Originally Posted by K Major Pete Carmichael hasn’t been good but he isn’t responsible for stopping the blitz. It’s up to the QB check out of the original play and the Oline to adjust accordingly. Again, DECISION MAKING at QB is poor through 3 games. Saints need a spark offensively. I guess a spark is hopeless when the ENTIRE o-line is terrible.

09-25-2022, 05:07 PM	#5
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,102	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I guess a spark is hopeless when the ENTIRE o-line is terrible. Your arrogance will cause you to always place blame anywhere but who you have championed for. You will never admit Jameis is not the answer and MT is a glass tiger. I am sure you read my post above and know I think Thomas has caught some passes, but he lacks a certain something. iceshack149 and K Major like this.

09-25-2022, 06:30 PM	#6
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,279 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers Many here have pointed out all the things that are not going well for the Saints. Oline, offensive play calling and Dennis Allen not up to task. All valid points but we just don’t stand a chance with a QB with little to no pocket awareness and a reasonable Football IQ. He cannot read defenses and it seems like if his first read, be short or midrange, is not open all bets are off. Besides the block pass interception how many time did he throw straight into raised arms of the defenders. I can’t recall Winston throwing the ball away this year, please correct me if I’m wrong. Allen needs to make the QB change this week with Winston behind center we might be early first round pick in the next draft.

09-25-2022, 06:34 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat Many here have pointed out all the things that are not going well for the Saints. Oline, offensive play calling and Dennis Allen not up to task. All valid points but we just don’t stand a chance with a QB with little to no pocket awareness and a reasonable Football IQ. He cannot read defenses and it seems like if his first read, be short or midrange, is not open all bets are off. Besides the block pass interception how many time did he throw straight into raised arms of the defenders. I can’t recall Winston throwing the ball away this year, please correct me if I’m wrong. Allen needs to make the QB change this week with Winston behind center we might be early first round pick in the next draft. We don't have a first round pick in the next draft.

09-25-2022, 06:51 PM	#8
NewfieSaint 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 117	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers Sad to say but I’m not excited to watch this team anymore.. just no fire. I will continue to watch but it is hard. And next week is a London game.. oh boy
NewfieSaint 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 117

09-26-2022, 07:42 AM	#9
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,279 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers Originally Posted by AsylumGuido We don't have a first round pick in the next draft. Yet … Never say never with Loomis.

09-25-2022, 07:08 PM	#10
GeauxForMore 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 590	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers First off, I want to say I love our defense. Those boys played lights out for us today. Secondly, I have never been a Winston fan and never will be one. He is who he is, a turnover machine and he will never be better. You can blame the o-line, WR, play calling, whatever, but everything starts with the QB. Injury or not the QB play helps everything. Quick decision making helps with the o-line and WR play. KAMARA is the best threat we have as a receiving threat and the ball wont be checked down. Ppl want to blame play calling, but there was a reason Winston had a good year last year before he got hurt. SP held him back and ppl wanted him to air it out. Air it out for Winston means interceptions. With our D, we will be in every game. We need someone who can manage the game. Winston can't do it. There was a reason why DA went for the rapist and Wilson before the start of the season. Without a first round pick in 2023, we are in some trouble boys. Hopefully our D plays lights out for the rest of the season, because that's the only chance we will win.