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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I agree that Jameis has more upside than Dalton but the odds have become too stacked against realizing that upside if it was ever possible. He has bad habits. He isn't reading the field well. We don't have Sean Payton ...
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Re: Lance Moore input on Dalton versus Winston
I agree that Jameis has more upside than Dalton but the odds have become too stacked against realizing that upside if it was ever possible. He has bad habits. He isn't reading the field well. We don't have Sean Payton to develop him anymore, we have Hue Jackson at head coach, except without the offensive background. Even if we had Sean Payton, Payton was better working with a QB who was already better. And to make it all harder we have injury prone receivers and no good TE to dump the ball off to because we spent all our TE money on a glass swiss army knife who gets everyone super excited against bad defenses in a game or two here or there between injuries and mediocre play against better defenses. So in Winston we have a QB with lots of upside who is injured and needs coaching, and we don't have the oline to protect him or the coaching to fix him, if either of those things are possible.
In our circumstances Dalton is better than Winston, but Dalton has a low ceiling, we are not getting a ring with Dalton, we are just keeping the bags off our heads and keeping Philly out of the top 5 picks maybe. If Winston gets fully healthy we can give him a shot if Dalton is not winning, which he probably won't be, but I don't think the shot is likely to go anywhere. Probably Winston is the next Aaron Brooks. If Aaron Brooks had not played under Jim Haslett, maybe Brooks would have been great. If Winston was initially drafted by Sean Payton and developed in a stable system with good protection, maybe Winston would have been great. Maybe Winston will sign as a backup with the Chiefs and Maholmes will go down one year with an injury and Andy Reid will fix Winston, unlikely, but possible. I don't think we are fixing Winston. Yes, we would all prefer Brees over Dalton and Winston. But at the same time, we would all prefer Sean Payton over Dennis Allen and Jahri Evans and Carl Nicks over Andrus Peat and Carlos Ruiz. Peat and Ruiz were first round picks. Evans and Nicks were 4th and 5th round picks. If we want to win, its not just getting a QB and getting a head coach, although we need both. Its getting back to finding talent like that in the middle rounds instead of scrapping our middle round picks to trade up in the first to draft scrubs who we will be committed to start for life whether they succeed or fail. We need to stop outsmarting ourselves in the middle rounds, stop trading the picks, stop drafting weird projects, and get younger and better. Then when we can protect a QB, we can find another one. |
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