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Old 10-16-2022, 07:43 PM   #21
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Re: Observation from the Saints loss to Bengals

At least the Bucs lost today. All we have to do is just suck a little less than TB or ATL to make the playoffs. Of all the years for CSP to leave
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Old 10-16-2022, 10:31 PM   #22
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I wonder if the two interceptions Chauncey Gardner Johnson had tonight could have made a difference for us today if he was still on the team. I hope Dennis Allen and the other coaches had some wonderful conversations with Justin Evans, Courtney Roby, etc about not intercepting footballs and not winning games and who they won’t select in the first round to not improve the team.
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Old 10-17-2022, 07:38 AM   #23
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Positives:
Sustained drives
Rushing attack
Early conversions on 3rd down
Less of the sloppy penalties
Backups played well


Negatives:
Atrocious tackling
Stalling in the red zone repeatedly
Q4 seemed like playing to preserve the lead, not to win the game
Peat down again...

In the end this team still has a chance. For now.
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Old 10-17-2022, 09:56 AM   #24
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My Post Mortem Monday Review:

The Uppers
- Ingram came to life and ran through people instead of trying to nifty run around them
- Ruiz is finally pulling his weight and is a solid presence on the O line
- Lutz is back to being Ol’ Reliable
- Trequan. Where the hell has this version been since the beginning of the season?
- Shaheed. Give me more of him. Especially on Returns.
- Keep using Go Go Gadget Hill in the hybrid role, but feed him with some passes in the slot too!

The Downers
- Injuries. We played with back ups and as game as they were, it shows.
- Giving up Big Plays at crucial moments must be in our team DNA. Beastquake. Minneapolis Miracle. Tampa Bay game. Carolina game. Minnesota game. Now, Cincinnati? It’s like being stuck in the effing Twilight Zone! What in the blue hell is up with our safety coverage on deep routes when we KNOW their best receiver is running them?
- Tackling. Trying to make the big impact hit instead of wrapping the runner up! Sweet Baby Jesus and the Grown One too! It’s midget football 101 guys! Seriously.
- Coaching. When you give Burrow (or any other decent NFL QB) 5+ seconds in the pocket, they will eventually make you pay. The DL is getting pressure but they need help. Stubbornly rushing 4 on 3 and longs is not working. It’s not really rocket science why this D only has 1 INT through the first 6 games!!! Create some heat on these QB’s to force some throwing mistakes.

The Mixed Bag
- Again, Coaching. Kudos for some creative play calling in the first half. WTF for going back to Run-Run-Pass when it got close to Crunch Time. Predictable and easy to game plan. Pete, grow a pair or step aside for someone who has already has them.
- Dalton. Good decision making and spreading the ball is a pleasure to watch. Inconsistent with quick reads and getting rid of the ball fast seems to be an issue. If you see the pressure is coming, dump it. Live to fight another battle.
- Red Zone. Yes, the team had several great drives, but coming away with FG's don't cut it. On more TD in this game makes all the difference in the world.

On to Arizona. I’m looking at that window again. Not ready to get on the ledge, but I’m thinking about it.
Praying to see some healthy players back on the field.

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Old 10-17-2022, 10:06 AM   #25
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Negatives:

Peat down again...
Wait, what? ... I must have missed that.

When? I hope not another concussion. He's already had 2 this year.
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Old 10-17-2022, 10:09 AM   #26
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.....man, all that money just sitting the bench scratching his athlete feet fungus. Get RID of the prima donna and get a couple players that WANT to win signed
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Old 10-17-2022, 10:18 AM   #27
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Lots of things went on in that game. Let’s not forget Burrough pulled 2 amazing plays out of his….hat to win that game. That was Mahomes/Allen level stuff. That’s what Jamar friggin Chase does. People think we are the first team to give up plays to them? Jeepers, seems like some users have very unrealistic expectations IMO. Playing without our top 3 WRs and it’s surprising we struggled in the red zone??!! Playing without top CBs and Safties and it’s a shock that Cincy had big offense plays? SMH. Again, take away the BS roughing the passer that helped keep their drive going and/or call the PI where Kamara got knocked off his feet and we got a different outcome.

Three biggest problems this year IMO are:
1) Lack of practice time together as I’ve pointed out is a result of shorter preseason and new players. As the season has gone on that continuity has gotten better.

2) Injuries. Enough said.

3). Refs. I firmly believe that a min of 2 and likely all 4 losses would have been Ws with even FAIR treatment by the zebras. Tampa is 1-5 without Refs help.
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Old 10-17-2022, 10:49 AM   #28
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Lots of things went on in that game. Let’s not forget Burrough pulled 2 amazing plays out of his….hat to win that game. That was Mahomes/Allen level stuff. That’s what Jamar friggin Chase does. People think we are the first team to give up plays to them? Jeepers, seems like some users have very unrealistic expectations IMO. Playing without our top 3 WRs and it’s surprising we struggled in the red zone??!! Playing without top CBs and Safties and it’s a shock that Cincy had big offense plays? SMH. Again, take away the BS roughing the passer that helped keep their drive going and/or call the PI where Kamara got knocked off his feet and we got a different outcome.

Three biggest problems this year IMO are:
1) Lack of practice time together as I’ve pointed out is a result of shorter preseason and new players. As the season has gone on that continuity has gotten better.

2) Injuries. Enough said.


3). Refs. I firmly believe that a min of 2 and likely all 4 losses would have been Ws with even FAIR treatment by the zebras. Tampa is 1-5 without Refs help.
We are 2-4. Not 3-3. I know that Loomis won't fire DA or Carmichael during the season. Jerry Jones would do it in a heart beat. It probably won't happen though because we are a family run business and not run by a "corporate mentality" that would clean house now. All I know is that DA's system doesn't work as a head coach. Cut bait now. We need fresh leadership!
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Old 10-17-2022, 10:51 AM   #29
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If this was Dallas or another big Market team Dennis Allen and Carmichael would be gone by now. I know that Loomis will not fire either one of them because this is a family-run business and we don't have that corporate mentality. However, it is time for a change in leadership and getting a fresh face in here would do wonders.
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Old 10-17-2022, 11:39 AM   #30
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In their first season as head coach of the team with the injuries they have had? I don’t think they’d be gone for any other franchise.
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