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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; While entertaining ... This sucks as the team choked. It is what it is and we are what we are, an average team that could win and could lose on any given Sunday. Time to lick your wounds and regroup. ...

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Old 10-16-2022, 04:02 PM   #1
 
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Observation from the Saints loss to Bengals

While entertaining ... This sucks as the team choked.

It is what it is and we are what we are, an average team that could win and could lose on any given Sunday.

Time to lick your wounds and regroup. Doubt we have any worthwhile answers the rest of the way, albeit we are hopeful .

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Old 10-16-2022, 04:08 PM   #2
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Re: Observation from the Saints loss to Bengals

I don't care what PFF says, Mathieu is awful.
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Old 10-16-2022, 04:14 PM   #3
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It's a "Management" issue. From top down.
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Old 10-16-2022, 04:15 PM   #4
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The Falcons are rebuilding and dumped aging veterans just before father time inevitably caught up. They will have cap to get stars. They got rid of Julio and Matt just in time and even managed to get value for Deion Jones while he was injured. Now the Panthers are entertaining offers for McCaffery. We need to realize we are in the same class as these teams now except we have less cap space and less draft picks so we need to rebuild more. All our veterans should be available for trade. We should clear enough cap space to afford the cap hits to get out of bad contracts like Peat, Hill, and Thomas. This is not our year. Next year with no top pick, no QB, and cap hell again wont be either.

Unfortunately our GM is Mickey Loomis so I expect we will make moves to shock the world and win now. Perhaps we will restructure and extend Peats contract to make space to sign OBJ and trade Sean Payton to the Panthers for Christian McCaffery. They both fit our system because they are old, injury prone, can be given backloaded new long term contracts, and when they inevitably get injured we can blame losses on bad luck despite having one of the oldest most brittle teams in the league and keep paying Loomis and Allen for bad results at max salary costs.
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Old 10-16-2022, 04:20 PM   #5
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A lot of work needed for sure. I do think it’s time to shed some players and rebuild. MT, AK, JW, and a bunch of defensive backs can go.
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Old 10-16-2022, 04:25 PM   #6
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A lot of work needed for sure. I do think it’s time to shed some players and rebuild. MT, AK, JW, and a bunch of defensive backs can go.
This team needs an actual "rebuild" season. They always try to hide the need for a rebuild, and just get into worse position salary cap wise.

This season isn't even a rebuilding one, we just suck.
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Old 10-16-2022, 04:34 PM   #7
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The defense stinks right now.

Honey Badger and Roby were chilling today.

Dennis Allen (can't motivate men) gets no pass from me, he's not a quality HC. Pete C play calling remains to be stale. I don't think the Bungalows punted today.

The Saints are just a bad NFL team & poorly coached.
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Old 10-16-2022, 04:42 PM   #8
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* It was overly clear that we were missing our #1-3 WRs. The passing game having a total of 53% completions.
* Protection as a whole was pretty good. Hurst should have had help on the second to last drive where Dalton got hit. That had a huge impact on the game.
* Roby played absolutely horrendous today.
* The bad news about Trautman is that he is no Jimmy Graham in the passing game. The good news about Trautman is that he is no Jimmy Graham in the running game. We had a harder time running after his injury.
* Play calling was decently creative in the first half but got really vanilla in the second. We know since som many years back that as soon as we start relaxing and just running base plays the offence fizzles.
* Tyrann Mathieu has been quite a disapointment so far.
* One of Smith's better games catching the ball. He is only a #4 WR in my book at the moment thou.
* Ruiz is groving as a player. The difference to the player he was last year is becoming quite visible.
* 3 Sacks looks good on paper but the pressure isn't consistent enough. It's mainly just spurts but Burrow is too good to have that much time in the pocket.
* If Olave can become something like Chase I'd be quite happy.

W.T. Sherman is my favorite General. After all he did order Atlanta to be burned to the ground.
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Old 10-16-2022, 04:54 PM   #9
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I’m actually encouraged. The dumb pre snap penalties were gone. Team held onto the ball. Running game clicked. Perfect on FGs. Younger guys stepping up.

It’s a long season. We went toe to toe with a team that made it to the SB last year. They have very talented offensive weapons. We had none of our top WRs. We caught 2 bad calls from the refs that kept their drives going.

I watched Eli Manning get 2 rings because his team caught fire at the right time. I’m not predicting a SB win, but I ain’t throwing in the towel.

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Old 10-16-2022, 04:56 PM   #10
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All that buzz about "Adebo having an amazing training camp" appears to be all BS.
Maybe he looked so good because our O is so inept, but he's been awful nearly every week.
He's getting abused by offenses.

I questioned why we drafted Alontae Taylor but I now have my answer.

Missed tackles are par for the season with this defense.
Way too much talent lost on defense, especially at Defensive Back.

Dennis Allen and Pete C are terrible.
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