Observation from the Saints loss to Bengals

Rugby Saint II · 10-17-2022, 10:51 AM

If this was Dallas or another big Market team Dennis Allen and Carmichael would be gone by now. I know that Loomis will not fire either one of them because this is a family-run business and we don't have that corporate mentality. However, it is time for a change in leadership and getting a fresh face in here would do wonders.

Boston Saint · 10-17-2022, 11:39 AM

In their first season as head coach of the team with the injuries they have had? I don’t think they’d be gone for any other franchise.

AsylumGuido · 10-17-2022, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

In their first season as head coach of the team with the injuries they have had? I don’t think they’d be gone for any other franchise.

Exactly what I was about to post, Boston. This isn't on Allen or Carmichael nor would any respectable franchise see it that way. Could there have been a bit more aggressive playcalling? Perhaps. But fielding a team littered with backups in place of key starters is not conducive to winning close games. Just as with Payton's great job last season facing much of the same, let's see what happens once we finally start getting some frontline players back. Every game has been close enough to have been a victory with a better bounce, or call, here or there.

Boston Saint · 10-17-2022, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

If this was Dallas or another big Market team Dennis Allen and Carmichael would be gone by now. I know that Loomis will not fire either one of them because this is a family-run business and we don't have that corporate mentality. However, it is time for a change in leadership and getting a fresh face in here would do wonders.

Case in point Rugby…McCarthy was 2-7 going into the bye week is first Season in Dallas. He went on to a 6-10 record. This was after two losing seasons in GB. Dallas didn’t fire him quickly.

AsylumGuido · 10-17-2022, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Case in point Rugby…McCarthy was 2-7 going into the bye week is first Season in Dallas. He went on to a 6-10 record. This was after two losing seasons in GB. Dallas didn’t fire him quickly.

Yup. And where is McCarthy now? Sitting with one of the better records in the entire league.

10-17-2022, 10:51 AM	#1
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Observation from the Saints loss to Bengals If this was Dallas or another big Market team Dennis Allen and Carmichael would be gone by now. I know that Loomis will not fire either one of them because this is a family-run business and we don't have that corporate mentality. However, it is time for a change in leadership and getting a fresh face in here would do wonders.

10-17-2022, 11:39 AM	#2
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Observation from the Saints loss to Bengals Originally Posted by Boston Saint In their first season as head coach of the team with the injuries they have had? I don’t think they’d be gone for any other franchise. Exactly what I was about to post, Boston. This isn't on Allen or Carmichael nor would any respectable franchise see it that way. Could there have been a bit more aggressive playcalling? Perhaps. But fielding a team littered with backups in place of key starters is not conducive to winning close games. Just as with Payton's great job last season facing much of the same, let's see what happens once we finally start getting some frontline players back. Every game has been close enough to have been a victory with a better bounce, or call, here or there.
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10-17-2022, 11:43 AM	#4
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Observation from the Saints loss to Bengals Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II If this was Dallas or another big Market team Dennis Allen and Carmichael would be gone by now. I know that Loomis will not fire either one of them because this is a family-run business and we don't have that corporate mentality. However, it is time for a change in leadership and getting a fresh face in here would do wonders. Case in point Rugby…McCarthy was 2-7 going into the bye week is first Season in Dallas. He went on to a 6-10 record. This was after two losing seasons in GB. Dallas didn’t fire him quickly. AsylumGuido likes this.

10-17-2022, 11:51 AM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Observation from the Saints loss to Bengals Originally Posted by Boston Saint Case in point Rugby…McCarthy was 2-7 going into the bye week is first Season in Dallas. He went on to a 6-10 record. This was after two losing seasons in GB. Dallas didn’t fire him quickly. Yup. And where is McCarthy now? Sitting with one of the better records in the entire league.