Everything Must Go?

BakoSaint · 10-28-2022, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

So now the Falcons are a model of how to do things? A team that hasn’t had a winning season in 5 years? It’s Loomis’s fault Payton decided to retire rather than play out his contract? You are reaching to find reasons to be critical. You admit a team might have to rebuild then complain that the Saints might have to do so. You excuse the troubles that Steelers and Pats are going through by using how close to the Cap they are. Like it’s Ok to be the Pats losing but not the Saints because the Pats have more cap room? That’s nonsense and that’s not how football works.

I am not complaining that we might have to rebuild. I am complaining that we do have to rebuild and are not doing it. Instead we are doing everything to win now for a lost cause, trading future picks, restructuring contracts to sign aging vets, maxing out next years cap now, destroying 2023 and 2024 and further, with denial. I am not mad we are losing and therefore wanting to lose more. I realize we are losing and therefore think it is futile to focus on winning now. Meanwhile the homer crowd is saying make it happen Loomis and wanting to max the 2024 cap and trade more draft picks, maybe give up every pick in 2024-2025 to get back into the late 1st in 2023 and restructure Andrus Peat with a 10 year extension to free up cash to sign OBJ. Thats how we get to 0-17 by 2025.

You have to realize the cap means something. Money is money. Draft picks mean something to. You can’t draft a franchise qb without a pick in the round they are drafted. Other teams are losing too. The falcons, pats, steelers. But they all have more cap space and picks than us for similar wins. We sold the farm and we didnt come home with the cow.

mapcow · 10-29-2022, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I am not complaining that we might have to rebuild. I am complaining that we do have to rebuild and are not doing it. Instead we are doing everything to win now for a lost cause, trading future picks, restructuring contracts to sign aging vets, maxing out next years cap now, destroying 2023 and 2024 and further, with denial. I am not mad we are losing and therefore wanting to lose more. I realize we are losing and therefore think it is futile to focus on winning now. Meanwhile the homer crowd is saying make it happen Loomis and wanting to max the 2024 cap and trade more draft picks, maybe give up every pick in 2024-2025 to get back into the late 1st in 2023 and restructure Andrus Peat with a 10 year extension to free up cash to sign OBJ. Thats how we get to 0-17 by 2025.

You have to realize the cap means something. Money is money. Draft picks mean something to. You can’t draft a franchise qb without a pick in the round they are drafted. Other teams are losing too. The falcons, pats, steelers. But they all have more cap space and picks than us for similar wins. We sold the farm and we didnt come home with the cow.

Cuz i have the cow

Boston Saint · 10-29-2022, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I am not complaining that we might have to rebuild. I am complaining that we do have to rebuild and are not doing it. Instead we are doing everything to win now for a lost cause, trading future picks, restructuring contracts to sign aging vets, maxing out next years cap now, destroying 2023 and 2024 and further, with denial. I am not mad we are losing and therefore wanting to lose more. I realize we are losing and therefore think it is futile to focus on winning now. Meanwhile the homer crowd is saying make it happen Loomis and wanting to max the 2024 cap and trade more draft picks, maybe give up every pick in 2024-2025 to get back into the late 1st in 2023 and restructure Andrus Peat with a 10 year extension to free up cash to sign OBJ. Thats how we get to 0-17 by 2025.

You have to realize the cap means something. Money is money. Draft picks mean something to. You can’t draft a franchise qb without a pick in the round they are drafted. Other teams are losing too. The falcons, pats, steelers. But they all have more cap space and picks than us for similar wins. We sold the farm and we didnt come home with the cow.

You are way over exaggerating and looking at things with the benefit of hindsight. Only thing that took this team out of contention is injuries. Penning hurt on a freak, stupid block by his own player. Thomas looked great early then had a turf toe. Lattimore is young and didn't have an injury history. Other players fit the same theme. Last year with injuries and COVID the team played severally undermanned but at one point were winning with Winston. This year has been similar with injuries and the team could easily have 2 more wins with a little fair treatment from the refs. That is a fact.

The future money is mostly Tied into Ram, Latt, Kamara, (I'm happy with them on the team for the next few years) Thomas, and Peat (When healthy they are good players. We have to accept their contracts and hope they can get on the field).

We have a young stud WR. We have young stud LB. Taylor and Adebo look like players. We Probably have a stud tackle. If things go as bad as you think, we will have pick 33-40. Likely a promising QB will be available in the 25-35 range. We will see what happens.

10-28-2022, 11:58 PM	#111
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,757	Re: Everything Must Go? Originally Posted by Boston Saint So now the Falcons are a model of how to do things? A team that hasn’t had a winning season in 5 years? It’s Loomis’s fault Payton decided to retire rather than play out his contract? You are reaching to find reasons to be critical. You admit a team might have to rebuild then complain that the Saints might have to do so. You excuse the troubles that Steelers and Pats are going through by using how close to the Cap they are. Like it’s Ok to be the Pats losing but not the Saints because the Pats have more cap room? That’s nonsense and that’s not how football works. I am not complaining that we might have to rebuild. I am complaining that we do have to rebuild and are not doing it. Instead we are doing everything to win now for a lost cause, trading future picks, restructuring contracts to sign aging vets, maxing out next years cap now, destroying 2023 and 2024 and further, with denial. I am not mad we are losing and therefore wanting to lose more. I realize we are losing and therefore think it is futile to focus on winning now. Meanwhile the homer crowd is saying make it happen Loomis and wanting to max the 2024 cap and trade more draft picks, maybe give up every pick in 2024-2025 to get back into the late 1st in 2023 and restructure Andrus Peat with a 10 year extension to free up cash to sign OBJ. Thats how we get to 0-17 by 2025. You have to realize the cap means something. Money is money. Draft picks mean something to. You can’t draft a franchise qb without a pick in the round they are drafted. Other teams are losing too. The falcons, pats, steelers. But they all have more cap space and picks than us for similar wins. We sold the farm and we didnt come home with the cow.
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10-29-2022, 10:06 AM	#112
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,334	Re: Everything Must Go? Originally Posted by BakoSaint I am not complaining that we might have to rebuild. I am complaining that we do have to rebuild and are not doing it. Instead we are doing everything to win now for a lost cause, trading future picks, restructuring contracts to sign aging vets, maxing out next years cap now, destroying 2023 and 2024 and further, with denial. I am not mad we are losing and therefore wanting to lose more. I realize we are losing and therefore think it is futile to focus on winning now. Meanwhile the homer crowd is saying make it happen Loomis and wanting to max the 2024 cap and trade more draft picks, maybe give up every pick in 2024-2025 to get back into the late 1st in 2023 and restructure Andrus Peat with a 10 year extension to free up cash to sign OBJ. Thats how we get to 0-17 by 2025. You have to realize the cap means something. Money is money. Draft picks mean something to. You can’t draft a franchise qb without a pick in the round they are drafted. Other teams are losing too. The falcons, pats, steelers. But they all have more cap space and picks than us for similar wins. We sold the farm and we didnt come home with the cow. Cuz i have the cow K Major and Boston Saint like this.
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10-29-2022, 11:37 AM	#113
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,874	Re: Everything Must Go? Originally Posted by BakoSaint I am not complaining that we might have to rebuild. I am complaining that we do have to rebuild and are not doing it. Instead we are doing everything to win now for a lost cause, trading future picks, restructuring contracts to sign aging vets, maxing out next years cap now, destroying 2023 and 2024 and further, with denial. I am not mad we are losing and therefore wanting to lose more. I realize we are losing and therefore think it is futile to focus on winning now. Meanwhile the homer crowd is saying make it happen Loomis and wanting to max the 2024 cap and trade more draft picks, maybe give up every pick in 2024-2025 to get back into the late 1st in 2023 and restructure Andrus Peat with a 10 year extension to free up cash to sign OBJ. Thats how we get to 0-17 by 2025. You have to realize the cap means something. Money is money. Draft picks mean something to. You can’t draft a franchise qb without a pick in the round they are drafted. Other teams are losing too. The falcons, pats, steelers. But they all have more cap space and picks than us for similar wins. We sold the farm and we didnt come home with the cow. You are way over exaggerating and looking at things with the benefit of hindsight. Only thing that took this team out of contention is injuries. Penning hurt on a freak, stupid block by his own player. Thomas looked great early then had a turf toe. Lattimore is young and didn't have an injury history. Other players fit the same theme. Last year with injuries and COVID the team played severally undermanned but at one point were winning with Winston. This year has been similar with injuries and the team could easily have 2 more wins with a little fair treatment from the refs. That is a fact. The future money is mostly Tied into Ram, Latt, Kamara, (I'm happy with them on the team for the next few years) Thomas, and Peat (When healthy they are good players. We have to accept their contracts and hope they can get on the field). We have a young stud WR. We have young stud LB. Taylor and Adebo look like players. We Probably have a stud tackle. If things go as bad as you think, we will have pick 33-40. Likely a promising QB will be available in the 25-35 range. We will see what happens.
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