Denver Will Be Payton’s Next Job

dizzle88 · 11-25-2022, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

and sustained success of said franchise.

revamped culture. desirable destination.

And a handful of plays from reaching 2 more Superbowls.

Plus overall value of franchise increased tremendously.

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Also developed a few Hall of Fame players

All very valid points, but again, would that team be willing to part with that hefty a sum for 1 guy?

I'm not naysaying, I'd love if they did, but I doubt any team would sign him if it meant paying us that amount.

K Major · 11-23-2022, 04:47 PM

As Ross Jackson eluded to earlier in his video...

"The more teams interested in SP, the merrier".

Let the bidding war begin!

BakoSaint · 11-23-2022, 06:35 PM

An article, I believe on PFT, indicated that whether or not coaching contracts toll when the coach sits out or whether rights are held indefinitely like a player is a legal question that has not been tested. So a team could wait until 2025 to sign Payton and instead of giving up picks they get sued by the Saints and maybe have their head coach sitting out with an injunction. If a team that has some extra picks or extra depth at some positions wants Payton its certainly simpler to make a decent roster offer than to wait until 2025 and get sued.

vpheughan · 11-23-2022, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

An article, I believe on PFT, indicated that whether or not coaching contracts toll when the coach sits out or whether rights are held indefinitely like a player is a legal question that has not been tested. So a team could wait until 2025 to sign Payton and instead of giving up picks they get sued by the Saints and maybe have their head coach sitting out with an injunction. If a team that has some extra picks or extra depth at some positions wants Payton its certainly simpler to make a decent roster offer than to wait until 2025 and get sued.

How did Bill Parcells retire from the Giants, Patriots, Jets and Cowboys? He had one year left on his contracts with the Giants, Patriots and Cowboys. Can't find any information on his Jets contract.

In fact After Parcells’s Giants won the Super Bowl in 1991, he retired and then signed with NBC Sports to serve as an analyst for its football broadcasts. (Sound Familiar?) In 1993 he became head coach of a New England Patriots

BakoSaint · 11-23-2022, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

How did Bill Parcells retire from the Giants, Patriots, Jets and Cowboys? He had one year left on his contracts with the Giants, Patriots and Cowboys. Can't find any information on his Jets contract.

In fact After Parcells’s Giants won the Super Bowl in 1991, he retired and then signed with NBC Sports to serve as an analyst for its football broadcasts. (Sound Familiar?) In 1993 he became head coach of a New England Patriots

The Jets compensated the Patriots for Parcells with draft picks. Then with the Jets Parcells stayed on as GM for one year after resigning as coach so that likely tolled and altered his contract as the Cowboys did not hire him as a GM which was his last job with the Jets. I don’t know the circumstances around him leaving the Giants, that was pre world wide web.

halloween 65 · 11-24-2022, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

An article, I believe on PFT, indicated that whether or not coaching contracts toll when the coach sits out or whether rights are held indefinitely like a player is a legal question that has not been tested. So a team could wait until 2025 to sign Payton and instead of giving up picks they get sued by the Saints and maybe have their head coach sitting out with an injunction. If a team that has some extra picks or extra depth at some positions wants Payton its certainly simpler to make a decent roster offer than to wait until 2025 and get sued.

I agree about a team having extra picks like two 1st rounders and multiple picks afterward. It happens all the time. I"m hoping we get another HC and those picks we get for Payton go to a new HC so there not wasted. We're gonna have to find a franchise qb and those picks for Payton could go a long way by a good HC but if Allen is still here might have give Payton away.

WW_Who_Dat · 11-23-2022, 07:19 PM

Coach is already living in SoCal … lived there for 8 years love the weather, ocean desert loved it all … except 13% income tax and property tax.

Don’t think Denver will be the choice, it been said he wants warm climate. He is currently 25 minutes from SoFi right now.

Would choose Russell Wilson on his downhill run, or Justin Herbert your QB for the next 12-15 years. Don’t think Coach wants reclamation project jumping back into it.

Just saying …

Thinking the coach is gone in LA regardless if the make the playoff or not.

hitta · 11-24-2022, 09:58 AM

We need a way to get back into the first round and select a QB because injuries and QB play are holding this team back. Payton could give us back one last gift. I have a lot of respect for the way Andy Dalton is playing right now, but it's not good enough and we'll have multiple mediocre seasons in a row with him as the QB if we were healthy.

Boston Saint · 11-24-2022, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by hitta

We need a way to get back into the first round and select a QB because injuries and QB play are holding this team back. Payton could give us back one last gift. I have a lot of respect for the way Andy Dalton is playing right now, but it's not good enough and we'll have multiple mediocre seasons in a row with him as the QB if we were healthy.

He’s a FA after this season. Dalton isn’t the plan to lead them forward. I’m rooting for them to sign Minshew and draft Hooker as he could slip to the second round with his injury.

llaguardia81 · 11-29-2022, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

He’s a FA after this season. Dalton isn’t the plan to lead them forward. I’m rooting for them to sign Minshew and draft Hooker as he could slip to the second round with his injury.

rather take Bryce Young from Bama. Hooker is not an NFL caliber QB.

11-25-2022, 11:12 AM	#1
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,546	Re: Denver Will Be Payton’s Next Job Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 and sustained success of said franchise. revamped culture. desirable destination. And a handful of plays from reaching 2 more Superbowls. Plus overall value of franchise increased tremendously. Originally Posted by Boston Saint Also developed a few Hall of Fame players All very valid points, but again, would that team be willing to part with that hefty a sum for 1 guy? I'm not naysaying, I'd love if they did, but I doubt any team would sign him if it meant paying us that amount. Boston Saint likes this.

11-23-2022, 04:47 PM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,845 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Denver Will Be Payton’s Next Job As Ross Jackson eluded to earlier in his video... "The more teams interested in SP, the merrier". Let the bidding war begin! Rugby Saint II likes this.

11-23-2022, 06:35 PM	#3
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,425	Re: Denver Will Be Payton’s Next Job An article, I believe on PFT, indicated that whether or not coaching contracts toll when the coach sits out or whether rights are held indefinitely like a player is a legal question that has not been tested. So a team could wait until 2025 to sign Payton and instead of giving up picks they get sued by the Saints and maybe have their head coach sitting out with an injunction. If a team that has some extra picks or extra depth at some positions wants Payton its certainly simpler to make a decent roster offer than to wait until 2025 and get sued. WW_Who_Dat and halloween 65 like this.
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11-23-2022, 11:08 PM	#4
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,561	Re: Denver Will Be Payton’s Next Job Originally Posted by BakoSaint An article, I believe on PFT, indicated that whether or not coaching contracts toll when the coach sits out or whether rights are held indefinitely like a player is a legal question that has not been tested. So a team could wait until 2025 to sign Payton and instead of giving up picks they get sued by the Saints and maybe have their head coach sitting out with an injunction. If a team that has some extra picks or extra depth at some positions wants Payton its certainly simpler to make a decent roster offer than to wait until 2025 and get sued. How did Bill Parcells retire from the Giants, Patriots, Jets and Cowboys? He had one year left on his contracts with the Giants, Patriots and Cowboys. Can't find any information on his Jets contract. In fact After Parcells’s Giants won the Super Bowl in 1991, he retired and then signed with NBC Sports to serve as an analyst for its football broadcasts. (Sound Familiar?) In 1993 he became head coach of a New England Patriots
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11-23-2022, 11:55 PM	#5
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,425	Re: Denver Will Be Payton’s Next Job Originally Posted by vpheughan How did Bill Parcells retire from the Giants, Patriots, Jets and Cowboys? He had one year left on his contracts with the Giants, Patriots and Cowboys. Can't find any information on his Jets contract. In fact After Parcells’s Giants won the Super Bowl in 1991, he retired and then signed with NBC Sports to serve as an analyst for its football broadcasts. (Sound Familiar?) In 1993 he became head coach of a New England Patriots The Jets compensated the Patriots for Parcells with draft picks. Then with the Jets Parcells stayed on as GM for one year after resigning as coach so that likely tolled and altered his contract as the Cowboys did not hire him as a GM which was his last job with the Jets. I don’t know the circumstances around him leaving the Giants, that was pre world wide web.
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11-24-2022, 08:23 AM	#6
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Denver Will Be Payton’s Next Job Originally Posted by BakoSaint An article, I believe on PFT, indicated that whether or not coaching contracts toll when the coach sits out or whether rights are held indefinitely like a player is a legal question that has not been tested. So a team could wait until 2025 to sign Payton and instead of giving up picks they get sued by the Saints and maybe have their head coach sitting out with an injunction. If a team that has some extra picks or extra depth at some positions wants Payton its certainly simpler to make a decent roster offer than to wait until 2025 and get sued. I agree about a team having extra picks like two 1st rounders and multiple picks afterward. It happens all the time. I"m hoping we get another HC and those picks we get for Payton go to a new HC so there not wasted. We're gonna have to find a franchise qb and those picks for Payton could go a long way by a good HC but if Allen is still here might have give Payton away.

11-23-2022, 07:19 PM	#7
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,280 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Denver Will Be Payton’s Next Job Coach is already living in SoCal … lived there for 8 years love the weather, ocean desert loved it all … except 13% income tax and property tax. Don’t think Denver will be the choice, it been said he wants warm climate. He is currently 25 minutes from SoFi right now. Would choose Russell Wilson on his downhill run, or Justin Herbert your QB for the next 12-15 years. Don’t think Coach wants reclamation project jumping back into it. Just saying … Thinking the coach is gone in LA regardless if the make the playoff or not. Rugby Saint II likes this.

11-24-2022, 09:58 AM	#8
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,342	Re: Denver Will Be Payton’s Next Job We need a way to get back into the first round and select a QB because injuries and QB play are holding this team back. Payton could give us back one last gift. I have a lot of respect for the way Andy Dalton is playing right now, but it's not good enough and we'll have multiple mediocre seasons in a row with him as the QB if we were healthy.
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11-24-2022, 11:02 AM	#9
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Denver Will Be Payton’s Next Job Originally Posted by hitta We need a way to get back into the first round and select a QB because injuries and QB play are holding this team back. Payton could give us back one last gift. I have a lot of respect for the way Andy Dalton is playing right now, but it's not good enough and we'll have multiple mediocre seasons in a row with him as the QB if we were healthy. He’s a FA after this season. Dalton isn’t the plan to lead them forward. I’m rooting for them to sign Minshew and draft Hooker as he could slip to the second round with his injury.

11-29-2022, 01:12 PM	#10
llaguardia81 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 443 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Denver Will Be Payton’s Next Job Originally Posted by Boston Saint He’s a FA after this season. Dalton isn’t the plan to lead them forward. I’m rooting for them to sign Minshew and draft Hooker as he could slip to the second round with his injury. rather take Bryce Young from Bama. Hooker is not an NFL caliber QB.