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It just makes me laugh when our best offensive player fumbles twice and Dennis Allen is blamed…..I admit I could be 100% wrong. But that makes no sense to me.

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Honestly, I think people would have more respect for Allen, if he made a move like that, to show that no one is without accountability.

What's the worst they could do, fire him? Thats likely going to happen if the team doesn't show improvement anyway, go for broke, make the team realise that no one is too good to not get an earful.

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But for who dizz? You are trying to win every game as a head coach. People are saying Kamara isn't involved enough. He fumbles on the first drive and you are gonna sit him for Ingram to make a point?

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Again, I'm not blaming Allen for Alvin's fumbles.
I'm blaming Allen for the fact that the offense has been inept all season, and he's made zero changes.

If Alvin fumbles, show him it's not okay and sit him.

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Payton wouldn't care for who, as evidenced when he benched Ingram for Hightower.

The message should be, you want to get more playing time, you do the job right and hang onto the ball.

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Cool. I think some do blame Kamara's fumbles on Allen. As well as other things that aren't his fault.

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Refresh my memory. When is this point you re referring to ?

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It was 31/10/2016.

Based on our record, I want to say week 8?

Ingram fumbled in the first quarter which Earl Thomas returned for a TD.
He didn't get another carry after that and Hightower ran 26 times.

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Ok, so in a season that ended up 7-9 on a Halloween game, Payton, who was already established as the HC benched Ingram (whom I believe he drafted).

In my mind that is different from Allen as first year coach who did not draft Kamara trying to stay in the playoff hunt not benching the All Pro Kamara. If he had benched him, to "make a point" then all hell would have come down on his head. He went with Kamara, Kamara let him down.

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I think there's a very fine line, I think both players and coaches are guilty of a lot this season.

In my view, players need to be held accountable for their BS.

On the other hand, a lot of people here say Dalton is awful and he just might be, but only one person makes the call to keep playing him. So that person obviously thinks there's no better player on the roster to take Dalton's spot. Which I think brings in the right for his decision making to be questioned.

I guess it varies on which way you view it.