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WW_Who_Dat 03-14-2023 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 971308)
JW return does surprise me … does this save all the dead cap hit money was going to be owed JW had he been either Wednesday or designate post June 1 cut.
Replying to
@nick_underhill
Cap hit previously was $15 million. So signing for $4 saves a lot I doubt he will even have a chance to hit the incentives like to see what those are. Being on roster one of them or is it playing time?

Found this does this sounds about right?

AsylumGuido 03-14-2023 08:33 AM
Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 971307)
Annoys me that they can't find 7M per year and adjust the defense to include Kaden as a starter, yet they can pay Jameis 8M to ride the bench.
The defense is what it is because of the five DB's. Changing it to accommodate a third LB could defeat the whole purpose. I feel Elliss excelled because he was playing in the Werner role while Werner was out. Besides, we could be in line for another compensatory pick with Elliss leaving.

As for Jameis, who's paying him 8M to ride the bench? He's getting 4M if he rides the bench. He doesn't get 8M unless he earns incentives and those surely require NOT riding the bench. They call those incentives not likely to be earned (NLTBE) and they do not count against the current year cap. If earned they are applied to the following year's cap.

AsylumGuido 03-14-2023 08:35 AM
Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread
 
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Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 971310)
Replying to
@nick_underhill
Cap hit previously was $15 million. So signing for $4 saves a lot I doubt he will even have a chance to hit the incentives like to see what those are. Being on roster one of them or is it playing time?

Found this does this sounds about right?
Yup. $4M isn't bad at all for a decent backup. Good deal there.

WW_Who_Dat 03-14-2023 08:42 AM
Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread
 
Loomis and Kai strike again 🤣

papz 03-14-2023 08:47 AM
Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread
 
There's a reason why we ranked so poorly in run defense last season. It's like we need to be more balanced on defense or something. It would also be nice to retain quality defensive players we seem to can't afford at the time we're trying to free up cap space every year.

I'm sure we're going to make some moves... in time. One day we're going to get our pick of the litter. Ndamukong Suh and Calais Campbell are both 36 and affordable now. Looks like both may be a perfect match here.

SmashMouth 03-14-2023 08:51 AM
Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread
 
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Originally Posted by papz (Post 971315)
There's a reason why we ranked so poorly in run defense last season. It's like we need to be more balanced on defense or something. It would also be nice to retain quality defensive players we seem to can't afford at the time we're trying to free up cap space every year.

I'm sure we're going to make some moves... in time. One day we're going to get our pick of the litter. Ndamukong Suh and Calais Campbell are both 36 and affordable now. Looks like both may be a perfect match here.
We do need new blood on the DL... It's entirely possible part of the issue on stopping the run are some of the departed DL bodies. We drafting heavy DL in a heavy quality draft

AsylumGuido 03-14-2023 08:56 AM
Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 971314)
Loomis and Kai strike again 🤣

SmashMouth 03-14-2023 08:58 AM
Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 971318)
Hope the Saints are training someone like him. His days here may be numbered since he yearns to be a GM. Maybe Loomis can share some of his duties and Mrs Benson can keep him here.

AsylumGuido 03-14-2023 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 971319)
Hope the Saints are training someone like him. His days here may be numbered since he yearns to be a GM. Maybe Loomis can share some of his duties and Mrs Benson can keep him here.
While Harley helped develop the principles they use and surely deserves that credit, there isn't really anything that couldn't be replicated by someone he has trained. What would be missed is his scouring new CBA's for changes that can be exploited further.

AsylumGuido 03-14-2023 09:50 AM
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:rofl::rofl:


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