Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread

Rugby Saint II · 02-17-2023, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I wouldn't be surprised to see either James Hurst, Granderson or Lutz cut this off-season. If the Saints want to compete on getting DCarr, you're probably going to need 70M+ in the kitty before the start of the league year.

And DCarr is definitely not waiting until early June before signing a new contract.

IMO some of the tough choices should have been made in 2021/22. This "win now " bullshinky nonsense needs to stop. The Saints are years away from truly competing. On the flip side, I understand (win now) because Allen wants to keep his job.

Make it make sense.

I can't make it make sense either. Let me know if you figure it out.

AsylumGuido · 02-17-2023, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I can't make it make sense either. Let me know if you figure it out.

It's only going to take around $12 to $15 million of 2023 cap to bring in Carr. That's including $60 to $70 million signing bonus. We have the means to do it. That doesn't mean we will do it. Personally I hope we do because it may be twenty years until we have a shot at an equivalent QB.

AsylumGuido · 02-17-2023, 04:44 PM

cmike · 02-20-2023, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

https://twitter.com/john_siglerr/sta...10183434125313

I guess this is finally 3Quans breakout season.

AsylumGuido · 02-20-2023, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by cmike

I guess this is finally 3Quans breakout season.

I wouldn't mind him as a WR4 or 5. He's a good blocker and knows the system well. If we don't retain Thomas we'll likely add another legit weapon via free agency or the draft. The fact we are pursuing Carr just shows that they remain in it to win. I'll also take Callaway as that deep depth.

Rugby Saint II · 02-20-2023, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I wouldn't mind him as a WR4 or 5. He's a good blocker and knows the system well. If we don't retain Thomas we'll likely add another legit weapon via free agency or the draft. The fact we are pursuing Carr just shows that they remain in it to win. I'll also take Callaway as that deep depth.

If they are in it to win then why would they bring back Tre Quan Smith? Wide receivers are supposed to be able to catch the ball not just block. They're not called wide blockers for a reason.

AsylumGuido · 02-20-2023, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

If they are in it to win then why would they bring back Tre Quan Smith? Wide receivers are supposed to be able to catch the ball not just block. They're not called wide blockers for a reason.

He's not as bad as you make him out to be. He was targeted 27 times last season and had three drops. He was targeted exactly 100 times the previous two seasons and had only six drops. Tre'Quan has never caught fewer than 63.6 percent of his targets and hauled in 70.4 percent in 2022.

In comparison, Chris Olave had seven drops alone last season. He caught only 60.5 percent of his targets.

You see, Rugs, perception is not always reality.

K Major · 02-20-2023, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

If they are in it to win then why would they bring back Tre Quan Smith? Wide receivers are supposed to be able to catch the ball not just block. They're not called wide blockers for a reason.

He was a swing and a miss but let's give him another shot at blocking

And you wonder why you were 7-10 last season. Michael Gallup was there in the same draft class, same round. Scouts missed that one.

Improve the depth if you want to compete with the Niners, Eagles & Cowboys when it counts.

rezburna · 02-20-2023, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I wouldn't mind him as a WR4 or 5. He's a good blocker and knows the system well. If we don't retain Thomas we'll likely add another legit weapon via free agency or the draft. The fact we are pursuing Carr just shows that they remain in it to win. I'll also take Callaway as that deep depth.

I let him walk. I want D.J. Chark.

K Major · 02-20-2023, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I let him walk. I want D.J. Chark.

Funny how some like to hold on to dead weight, below avg players then complain he's not getting open on Sundays.

Improve the roster every off-season. Trequan should have been replaced 2 seasons ago.

02-17-2023, 02:38 PM	#1
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,187	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by K Major I wouldn't be surprised to see either James Hurst, Granderson or Lutz cut this off-season. If the Saints want to compete on getting DCarr, you're probably going to need 70M+ in the kitty before the start of the league year. And DCarr is definitely not waiting until early June before signing a new contract. IMO some of the tough choices should have been made in 2021/22. This "win now " bullshinky nonsense needs to stop. The Saints are years away from truly competing. On the flip side, I understand (win now) because Allen wants to keep his job. Make it make sense. I can't make it make sense either. Let me know if you figure it out.

02-17-2023, 03:31 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,714	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I can't make it make sense either. Let me know if you figure it out. It's only going to take around $12 to $15 million of 2023 cap to bring in Carr. That's including $60 to $70 million signing bonus. We have the means to do it. That doesn't mean we will do it. Personally I hope we do because it may be twenty years until we have a shot at an equivalent QB. Rugby Saint II likes this.

02-17-2023, 04:44 PM	#3
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02-20-2023, 10:30 AM	#4
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,447	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by AsylumGuido https://twitter.com/john_siglerr/sta...10183434125313 I guess this is finally 3Quans breakout season. SmashMouth likes this.

02-20-2023, 10:51 AM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,714	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by cmike I guess this is finally 3Quans breakout season. I wouldn't mind him as a WR4 or 5. He's a good blocker and knows the system well. If we don't retain Thomas we'll likely add another legit weapon via free agency or the draft. The fact we are pursuing Carr just shows that they remain in it to win. I'll also take Callaway as that deep depth.

02-20-2023, 11:24 AM	#6
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,187	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I wouldn't mind him as a WR4 or 5. He's a good blocker and knows the system well. If we don't retain Thomas we'll likely add another legit weapon via free agency or the draft. The fact we are pursuing Carr just shows that they remain in it to win. I'll also take Callaway as that deep depth. If they are in it to win then why would they bring back Tre Quan Smith? Wide receivers are supposed to be able to catch the ball not just block. They're not called wide blockers for a reason.

02-20-2023, 11:52 AM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,714	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II If they are in it to win then why would they bring back Tre Quan Smith? Wide receivers are supposed to be able to catch the ball not just block. They're not called wide blockers for a reason. He's not as bad as you make him out to be. He was targeted 27 times last season and had three drops. He was targeted exactly 100 times the previous two seasons and had only six drops. Tre'Quan has never caught fewer than 63.6 percent of his targets and hauled in 70.4 percent in 2022. In comparison, Chris Olave had seven drops alone last season. He caught only 60.5 percent of his targets. You see, Rugs, perception is not always reality.

02-20-2023, 02:08 PM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II If they are in it to win then why would they bring back Tre Quan Smith? Wide receivers are supposed to be able to catch the ball not just block. They're not called wide blockers for a reason. He was a swing and a miss but let's give him another shot at blocking And you wonder why you were 7-10 last season. Michael Gallup was there in the same draft class, same round. Scouts missed that one. Improve the depth if you want to compete with the Niners, Eagles & Cowboys when it counts. SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

02-20-2023, 12:26 PM	#9
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,114	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I wouldn't mind him as a WR4 or 5. He's a good blocker and knows the system well. If we don't retain Thomas we'll likely add another legit weapon via free agency or the draft. The fact we are pursuing Carr just shows that they remain in it to win. I'll also take Callaway as that deep depth. I let him walk. I want D.J. Chark. SmashMouth likes this.

02-20-2023, 02:04 PM	#10
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by rezburna I let him walk. I want D.J. Chark. Funny how some like to hold on to dead weight, below avg players then complain he's not getting open on Sundays. Improve the roster every off-season. Trequan should have been replaced 2 seasons ago. subguy, SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and 2 others like this.

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