Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread

rezburna · 06-17-2023, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

13.5M?

I hope they use some of that cash on a quality vet LB.

As Underhill & Mike have mentioned several times …. it’s very thin @ the position & Demarco is a complete unknown.

Jadeveon Clowney, EDGE
Yannick Ngakoue, EDGE
Dalton Risner, G
Anthony Barr, LB
Jaylon Smith, LB
Kwon Alexander, LB

With that cap space we could probably bring in multiple vets. I’d grab Clowney and Kwon if possible.

AsylumGuido · 06-17-2023, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Jadeveon Clowney, EDGE
Yannick Ngakoue, EDGE
Dalton Risner, G
Anthony Barr, LB
Jaylon Smith, LB
Kwon Alexander, LB

With that cap space we could probably bring in multiple vets. I’d grab Clowney and Kwon if possible.

I have read and heard that they are pretty high on both D'Marco Jackson and Anfernee Orji at LB. I have a feeling all the vets are going to want to wait until after training camp to commit anywhere. I don't blame them.

K Major · 06-17-2023, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Jadeveon Clowney, EDGE
Yannick Ngakoue, EDGE
Dalton Risner, G
Anthony Barr, LB
Jaylon Smith, LB
Kwon Alexander, LB

With that cap space we could probably bring in multiple vets. I’d grab Clowney and Kwon if possible.

I'm good with any of those selections EXCEPT Jaylon Smith.

He's pretty bad. Slow & the burst is nonexistent. Honestly, he's not the same player after the injury.

Kwon? Knows the system & would be great depth but I don't see it happening.

Not a popular choice but I'd take a flyer on Rueben Foster

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SmashMouth · 06-17-2023, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'm good with any of those selections EXCEPT Jaylon Smith.

He's pretty bad. Slow & the burst is nonexistent. Honestly, he's not the same player after the injury.

Kwon? Knows the system & would be great depth but I don't see it happening.

Not a popular choice but I'd take a flyer on Rueben Foster .

Not until we need someone during the season do I think it's prudent to consider these guys.

AsylumGuido · 06-17-2023, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Not unless we need someone during the season do I think it's prudent to consider these guys.

Fixed it for you.

It's clear we have no intention of moving away from the 4-2 scheme since that's what they've been using throughout OTA's and minicamp. Any LB beyond Davis and Werner are expected to 1) be there as a backup for the two of them, 2) come in on a situational 4-3 alignment (very rare in the Dennis Allen scheme), and 3) to be very involved in special teams.

I just can't see us or those vets themselves wanting that scenario. I could be wrong, but it just doesn't make sense right now.

It could also be that one of the other eight LB's we have on the 90 man roster can fill that role with no further financial outlay. If we sign anyone else at LB right now it will mean cutting one, or more, of these.

K Major · 06-17-2023, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Not until we need someone during the season do I think it's prudent to consider these guys.

Smash

Demario Davis is 34 years of age. A quality LB but after him, there is no proven depth (Ellis is gone). Pete Werner is an up-and-comer but he hasn't played (battled injuries in 2022) a full season yet. Then come to the playoffs (assuming we get there).

I remember there were 2 individuals (actually it was one homer here

) on this board who thought our WR depth was "fine" when Sean P was here .. Callaway, Lil J and Tre (good lord). OK ...

rezburna · 06-17-2023, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Smash

Demario Davis is 34 years of age. A quality LB but after him, there is no proven depth (Ellis is gone). Pete Werner is an up-and-comer but he hasn't played (battled injuries in 2022) a full season yet. Then come to the playoffs (assuming we get there).

I remember there were 2 individuals (actually it was one homer here ) on this board who thought our WR depth was "fine" when Sean P was here .. Callaway, Lil J and Tre (good lord). OK ...

We could try to trade for Devin White. 🤷🏽*♂️

SmashMouth · 06-18-2023, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Smash

Demario Davis is 34 years of age. A quality LB but after him, there is no proven depth (Ellis is gone). Pete Werner is an up-and-comer but he hasn't played (battled injuries in 2022) a full season yet. Then come to the playoffs (assuming we get there).

I remember there were 2 individuals (actually it was one homer here ) on this board who thought our WR depth was "fine" when Sean P was here .. Callaway, Lil J and Tre (good lord). OK ...

We had this discussion already. Saints must like who's in the house already, Jackson prolly . I think they pick up someone when all the cuts are made .

Rugby Saint II · 06-18-2023, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

We had this discussion already. Saints must like who's in the house already, Jackson prolly . I think they pick up someone when all the cuts are made .

That's right. This team loves bringing in the scraps an left overs. Our scouting department is better than most and should know if a player fits the system based on our initial evaluation of him.

06-17-2023, 12:24 PM	#1
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,097	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by K Major 13.5M? I hope they use some of that cash on a quality vet LB. As Underhill & Mike have mentioned several times …. it’s very thin @ the position & Demarco is a complete unknown. Jadeveon Clowney, EDGE Yannick Ngakoue, EDGE Dalton Risner, G Anthony Barr, LB Jaylon Smith, LB Kwon Alexander, LB With that cap space we could probably bring in multiple vets. I’d grab Clowney and Kwon if possible.

06-17-2023, 12:49 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by rezburna Jadeveon Clowney, EDGE Yannick Ngakoue, EDGE Dalton Risner, G Anthony Barr, LB Jaylon Smith, LB Kwon Alexander, LB With that cap space we could probably bring in multiple vets. I’d grab Clowney and Kwon if possible. I have read and heard that they are pretty high on both D'Marco Jackson and Anfernee Orji at LB. I have a feeling all the vets are going to want to wait until after training camp to commit anywhere. I don't blame them.

06-17-2023, 12:58 PM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by rezburna Jadeveon Clowney, EDGE Yannick Ngakoue, EDGE Dalton Risner, G Anthony Barr, LB Jaylon Smith, LB Kwon Alexander, LB With that cap space we could probably bring in multiple vets. I’d grab Clowney and Kwon if possible. I'm good with any of those selections EXCEPT Jaylon Smith. He's pretty bad. Slow & the burst is nonexistent. Honestly, he's not the same player after the injury. Kwon? Knows the system & would be great depth but I don't see it happening. Not a popular choice but I'd take a flyer on Rueben Foster .

06-17-2023, 02:08 PM	#4
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,805 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by K Major I'm good with any of those selections EXCEPT Jaylon Smith. He's pretty bad. Slow & the burst is nonexistent. Honestly, he's not the same player after the injury. Kwon? Knows the system & would be great depth but I don't see it happening. Not a popular choice but I'd take a flyer on Rueben Foster . Not until we need someone during the season do I think it's prudent to consider these guys.

06-17-2023, 02:22 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by SmashMouth Not unless we need someone during the season do I think it's prudent to consider these guys. Fixed it for you. It's clear we have no intention of moving away from the 4-2 scheme since that's what they've been using throughout OTA's and minicamp. Any LB beyond Davis and Werner are expected to 1) be there as a backup for the two of them, 2) come in on a situational 4-3 alignment (very rare in the Dennis Allen scheme), and 3) to be very involved in special teams. I just can't see us or those vets themselves wanting that scenario. I could be wrong, but it just doesn't make sense right now. It could also be that one of the other eight LB's we have on the 90 man roster can fill that role with no further financial outlay. If we sign anyone else at LB right now it will mean cutting one, or more, of these.
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06-17-2023, 04:30 PM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by SmashMouth Not until we need someone during the season do I think it's prudent to consider these guys. Smash Demario Davis is 34 years of age. A quality LB but after him, there is no proven depth (Ellis is gone). Pete Werner is an up-and-comer but he hasn't played (battled injuries in 2022) a full season yet. Then come to the playoffs (assuming we get there). I remember there were 2 individuals (actually it was one homer here ) on this board who thought our WR depth was "fine" when Sean P was here .. Callaway, Lil J and Tre (good lord). OK ...

06-17-2023, 05:19 PM	#7
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,097	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by K Major Smash Demario Davis is 34 years of age. A quality LB but after him, there is no proven depth (Ellis is gone). Pete Werner is an up-and-comer but he hasn't played (battled injuries in 2022) a full season yet. Then come to the playoffs (assuming we get there). I remember there were 2 individuals (actually it was one homer here ) on this board who thought our WR depth was "fine" when Sean P was here .. Callaway, Lil J and Tre (good lord). OK ... We could try to trade for Devin White. 🤷🏽*♂️

06-18-2023, 11:27 AM	#8
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,805 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by K Major Smash Demario Davis is 34 years of age. A quality LB but after him, there is no proven depth (Ellis is gone). Pete Werner is an up-and-comer but he hasn't played (battled injuries in 2022) a full season yet. Then come to the playoffs (assuming we get there). I remember there were 2 individuals (actually it was one homer here ) on this board who thought our WR depth was "fine" when Sean P was here .. Callaway, Lil J and Tre (good lord). OK ... We had this discussion already. Saints must like who's in the house already, Jackson prolly . I think they pick up someone when all the cuts are made .

06-18-2023, 01:28 PM	#9
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by SmashMouth We had this discussion already. Saints must like who's in the house already, Jackson prolly . I think they pick up someone when all the cuts are made . That's right. This team loves bringing in the scraps an left overs. Our scouting department is better than most and should know if a player fits the system based on our initial evaluation of him.