Potentially Available QB's for 2023

K Major · 01-05-2023, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I might be a little intrigued by Jordan Love right now. I’d bring Jameis Winston back and let him compete for the job. If he loses he goes from an average starter to a great back up. I believe if we broke the bank on Lamar Jackson Payton would come back…but eh. I guess we’ll see.

Crazy to me that some people are "ok" with an offense that averages 14 ppg. That is a direct result of Pete Carmichael

Total dysfunctional system.

As for Winston, he'll end up as a cap casualty in 2023.

IMO nothing will change until the coaching staff is re-shuffled. Otherwise, they could ruin a high draft pick at QB.

Again, I'm just a couch coach though

turbo_dog · 01-05-2023, 12:46 PM

I'm not sure why, but I keep having visions of Payton as the Chicago Bears head coach. It goes against the warm weather theory, but he did grow up in Illinois and played at Eastern Illinois University.

I could see him want the challenge of bringing one of the most historic teams in the NFL back to greatness. They have a young QB who many think could be a star, and one who you could say is a better version of Taysom Hill.

The biggest problem is they just hired a new coach last year. But it's the NFL, which stand for 'not for long' if you don't win.

saintsfan1976 · 01-05-2023, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

I'm not sure why, but I keep having visions of Payton as the Chicago Bears head coach. It goes against the warm weather theory, but he did grow up in Illinois and played at Eastern Illinois University.

I could see him want the challenge of bringing one of the most historic teams in the NFL back to greatness. They have a young QB who many think could be a star, and one who you could say is a better version of Taysom Hill.

The biggest problem is they just hired a new coach last year. But it's the NFL, which stand for 'not for long' if you don't win.

You're not alone in that thought.

Papa Voodoo · 01-05-2023, 04:13 PM

I think Dalton will be the starter next year. Draft safety/DL and hope for much less injuries.

Thirty3 · 01-05-2023, 05:12 PM

Keep Dalton and Hill on the reasonable and INVEST in the offensive line. keep Defense if possible.

AsylumGuido · 01-05-2023, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Thirty3

Keep Dalton and Hill on the reasonable and INVEST in the offensive line. keep Defense if possible.

I can absolutely support that, and draft a QB in mid rounds until we get a keeper. Use higher draft choices on more trustworthy positions.

SmashMouth · 01-05-2023, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I can absolutely support that, and draft a QB in mid rounds until we get a keeper. Use higher draft choices on more trustworthy positions.

Is the Tulane QB worthy of consideration in the later rounds or even UDFA? He seems like he comes through in the clutch, even if his numbers aren't eye popping.

AsylumGuido · 01-05-2023, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Is the Tulane QB worthy of consideration in the later rounds or even UDFA? He seems like he comes through in the clutch, even if his numbers aren't eye popping.

No telling when actually facing NFL talent. So many that do "eye pop" end up being busts. I trust Jeff Ireland and his crew to take those gambles, but not in the earliest rounds.

BakoSaint · 01-07-2023, 11:54 AM

Keep Dalton if he is cheap.

Trade Hill to whoever Sean Payton coaches or whoever will take him. Hill is a very fun player to watch but his production is never consistent and tends to be against weak teams and defenses. Some float stats where we win if we use him enough, but the truth is we use him enough when we get more than 1 yard and a cloud of dust attempting to use him, and against better defenses we would not do well getting 1 yard and cloud of dust more times. Also unfortunately Hill is too old for a running QB or Tight End with his playing style and will not be reliable. He is a fun player, I agree, but he is a fragile novelty when we need depth, durability, and youth.

Draft a QB without trading up somewhere in round 1-4.

Cut Winston. He needs a QB guru coach if there is any chance.

Find a Lamont Murray replacement and don't put them on the practice squad.

Draft oline depth. Find the next Evans or Nicks in the middle rounds.

Consider moving Alvin Kamara at the 2023 trading deadline if we don't have a winning record and his suspension is behind him. As we develop a younger QB a more powerful running back might aid more in their development than a 4th or 5th option for passing.

Rugby Saint II · 01-14-2023, 04:37 PM

With whatever trade assets you have this year pick a quarterback and let Andy Dalton groom him. No, I don't want Andy Dalton starting but he is a good Bridge quarterback I believe. There are some quarterbacks available in the second round like Hendon Hooker that looks promising. I don't want to pay the money to Derek Carr or Jimmy Garoppolo or anybody else who will not be the future. Let's invest that money in young Talent.

01-05-2023, 12:46 PM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,830 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Potentially Available QB's for 2023 Originally Posted by rezburna I might be a little intrigued by Jordan Love right now. I’d bring Jameis Winston back and let him compete for the job. If he loses he goes from an average starter to a great back up. I believe if we broke the bank on Lamar Jackson Payton would come back…but eh. I guess we’ll see. Crazy to me that some people are "ok" with an offense that averages 14 ppg. That is a direct result of Pete Carmichael Total dysfunctional system. As for Winston, he'll end up as a cap casualty in 2023. IMO nothing will change until the coaching staff is re-shuffled. Otherwise, they could ruin a high draft pick at QB. Again, I'm just a couch coach though MatthewT, Rugby Saint II and rezburna like this.

01-05-2023, 12:46 PM	#2
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,701	Re: Potentially Available QB's for 2023 I'm not sure why, but I keep having visions of Payton as the Chicago Bears head coach. It goes against the warm weather theory, but he did grow up in Illinois and played at Eastern Illinois University. I could see him want the challenge of bringing one of the most historic teams in the NFL back to greatness. They have a young QB who many think could be a star, and one who you could say is a better version of Taysom Hill. The biggest problem is they just hired a new coach last year. But it's the NFL, which stand for 'not for long' if you don't win. iceshack149, MatthewT, Crusader and 1 others like this.

01-05-2023, 02:33 PM	#3
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,021 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Potentially Available QB's for 2023 Originally Posted by turbo_dog I'm not sure why, but I keep having visions of Payton as the Chicago Bears head coach. It goes against the warm weather theory, but he did grow up in Illinois and played at Eastern Illinois University. I could see him want the challenge of bringing one of the most historic teams in the NFL back to greatness. They have a young QB who many think could be a star, and one who you could say is a better version of Taysom Hill. The biggest problem is they just hired a new coach last year. But it's the NFL, which stand for 'not for long' if you don't win. You're not alone in that thought.

01-05-2023, 04:13 PM	#4
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: Potentially Available QB's for 2023 I think Dalton will be the starter next year. Draft safety/DL and hope for much less injuries.

01-05-2023, 05:12 PM	#5
Thirty3 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 1,255	Re: Potentially Available QB's for 2023 Keep Dalton and Hill on the reasonable and INVEST in the offensive line. keep Defense if possible. AsylumGuido likes this.
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01-05-2023, 05:58 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Potentially Available QB's for 2023 Originally Posted by Thirty3 Keep Dalton and Hill on the reasonable and INVEST in the offensive line. keep Defense if possible. I can absolutely support that, and draft a QB in mid rounds until we get a keeper. Use higher draft choices on more trustworthy positions.

01-05-2023, 06:01 PM	#7
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,792 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Potentially Available QB's for 2023 Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I can absolutely support that, and draft a QB in mid rounds until we get a keeper. Use higher draft choices on more trustworthy positions. Is the Tulane QB worthy of consideration in the later rounds or even UDFA? He seems like he comes through in the clutch, even if his numbers aren't eye popping.

01-05-2023, 06:38 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Potentially Available QB's for 2023 Originally Posted by SmashMouth Is the Tulane QB worthy of consideration in the later rounds or even UDFA? He seems like he comes through in the clutch, even if his numbers aren't eye popping. No telling when actually facing NFL talent. So many that do "eye pop" end up being busts. I trust Jeff Ireland and his crew to take those gambles, but not in the earliest rounds.

01-07-2023, 11:54 AM	#9
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,389	Re: Potentially Available QB's for 2023 Keep Dalton if he is cheap. Trade Hill to whoever Sean Payton coaches or whoever will take him. Hill is a very fun player to watch but his production is never consistent and tends to be against weak teams and defenses. Some float stats where we win if we use him enough, but the truth is we use him enough when we get more than 1 yard and a cloud of dust attempting to use him, and against better defenses we would not do well getting 1 yard and cloud of dust more times. Also unfortunately Hill is too old for a running QB or Tight End with his playing style and will not be reliable. He is a fun player, I agree, but he is a fragile novelty when we need depth, durability, and youth. Draft a QB without trading up somewhere in round 1-4. Cut Winston. He needs a QB guru coach if there is any chance. Find a Lamont Murray replacement and don't put them on the practice squad. Draft oline depth. Find the next Evans or Nicks in the middle rounds. Consider moving Alvin Kamara at the 2023 trading deadline if we don't have a winning record and his suspension is behind him. As we develop a younger QB a more powerful running back might aid more in their development than a 4th or 5th option for passing.
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01-14-2023, 04:37 PM	#10
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,151	Re: Potentially Available QB's for 2023 With whatever trade assets you have this year pick a quarterback and let Andy Dalton groom him. No, I don't want Andy Dalton starting but he is a good Bridge quarterback I believe. There are some quarterbacks available in the second round like Hendon Hooker that looks promising. I don't want to pay the money to Derek Carr or Jimmy Garoppolo or anybody else who will not be the future. Let's invest that money in young Talent.