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See! You agree that there are presumptions but no one knows.

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Does anyone have news about Michael Thomas' physical? It was supposed to be on or about yesterday 4/21.

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With the reports that Michael Thomas was randomly drug tested for PEDs, if we performed a physical on 4/21 but haven't officially passed or failed him, we should PED drug test any specimens we have from that physical and fail him if he tests positive. If would be a disaster if we pass his physical and a day later the league fails his PED test and we pay him $10-15 million for being suspended.

I don't think he is on PEDs but it would not be that surprising. If he could not get fully healed and was worried about failing the physical, being cut, and ending up out of the league, it would be tempting to use PEDs, pass the physical, have a better chance at a monster season, get another long term deal, quit the PEDs, and coast off into the sunset with a lot more money.

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The P D on P E D.... now that is funny :beatnik:

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They are pushing the envelope with the sciences used for "undetectable" performance enhancement techniques. Who's to say one way or another?


The Oak has a point.

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I’m sorry, did I miss something? Thomas failed a PED test?

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Nawhhh... it's just been insinuated in light of no reporting on his scheduled recent physical. :popcorn:

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Haters gonna hate, y'all. It's as sure as death and taxes.

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I did not mean to insinuate he was on PEDs. He has been injured for a long time. He posted a video lifting an incredible amount of weight. The NFL called him in for a PED test. I don't know the results of that test so I think its most fair and neutral and unbiased to consider that it could be either negative or positive, and ideally we would protect ourselves in both scenarios. I think the best way to do that would be for the team to test any blood samples they have from his physical so they can know for sure and get ahead of it. If he tested positive, the team could fail his physical and save $10 million. If he passed, great. I do not want a repeat of the Nick Fairly issue where the team gives a bunch of money to a risky player and weeks later they have a medical issue that could have been uncovered at their physical but wasnt and the team spends a bunch of money on an empty locker.

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Ready to rock and roll with Thomas, Olave, and Shaheed!

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If Thomas can slowly work back through training camp then the back ups will get in work with Carr while Thomas eases back in. That sounds like a win/win scenario for everybody. Thomas was the man against Atlanta last year, and we need him to play more games this year by not over using him and reinjuring him rushing back when he's not fully healthy. Not to mention, his injuries are not the only concern. He hasn't really played in years, his body is older, and other injuries sneak up on you when attempting a come back. I'm speaking from experience. It's not always the old injuries that get you. Sometimes you overcompensate for an injury, which sometimes causes anther injury.

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It's sounding like he's going to be 100% go by training camp (ie. fully healthy). Allen basically said they'll be doing that slow work back leading up to training camp.

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Loomis says he expects Thomas to be every bit the player he was before the injuries. Also says that Thomas has "worked so hard" to get back over the past two, three years to get back.

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I’d rather hear about Moreau who is battling cancer and trying to get on the field then another “He’s doing everything he can to get back” story on Thomas. It’s just redundant. Until the guy gets on the field and produces regularly, I’m pretty disinterested. I’m kind of over it all. Lol.

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+1.

I've focused my attention on these young guys @ camp. The Wake Forest kid as well as Bryan Edwards could use the extra reps anyway.

Maybe we sign the vet (James Washington) who is in for a visit today 5/15 (WR). Very productive with the Steelers, however battled injuries last season in Dallas. I'm glad we're kicking the tires on him.

I like his vertical game & could be good insurance.

If Mike is ready by September, GREAT. If not, it is what it is.

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Was she trying to be informing or insightful in someway? Honest question not trying to be a jerk.

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Watch Thomas earn every dime this year.

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I like the way you think Rugby 😎

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I believe it was more of a commentary about uninformed fans insinuating that Thomas hasn't been doing his best to get back on the field.

Here's the entire interview.

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Talk is cheap, get on the field.

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Watch the entire video. They all expound on how hard he works. It's at the 25:00 point if you don't want to take the time to watch it all. They compare his work ethic to that of Drew Brees.

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Pass. Nothing he says nor anything anyone says about him means a bill of beans at this point. If he can and does play then great. Until then it’s smoke and mirrors.

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90% of the video is about the rookie camp and gives good insight on all the rookies. Damned you are stubborn to a fault. It's fans like you that they address in their limited discussion concerning Thomas's work ethic. Those fans are going to believe what they want to believe and will ignore any and all meaningful and accurate insight. So be it. You are who you are and will continue to believe what you wish.

Moving on.

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I’m stubborn because I say until he is back on the field then anything else is just talk? How is this a stubborn statement? Please enlighten me brown-noser.

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I was talking about refusing to even watch a very informative video that is maybe 5% Thomas related and the rest talking about the rookies. That is stubborn. :D But, no skin off my back. You can stick your fingers in your ears when it gets to the 25:00 points and talks about Thomas. ;)

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I'm pretty stubborn too. Sometimes, I have to actually see it for myself before I'm willing to change my mind. No matter how many times people present me with relevant information I still feel the need to verify it with my own eyes. I've slowly come around to supporting Thomas but I was a hater too.

I'm willing to give other people time to do the same. :duel:

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Ok, but this all started with you posting a tweet from NOFA that was a short clip of a lady saying “MT is working out and if he comes back he could be good”. I was simply scoffing at that clip being of any real value.

Sorry if I didn’t feel like listening to a 25 minute video pertaining to his recovery. Proof will be if he is ready to play, not what this video says.

I have never pulled against Thomas despite what you think. It is simple fact he missed the final 13+ games last year and somewhere around 40 out of last 50 I believe. Any talk about his progress is total speculation until he steps back on the field. You call that stubborn but I call it realistic. What’s stubborn is to stick your fingers in your ear whenever anyone points out anything about Can’t Play Mike’s injuries and act like he’s been productive the last two seasons while also throwing shade on anyone who has a doubt. But like you say, that’s just my opinion. I hope he plays and is comeback POTY. I have my doubts. You are ignorant of the meaning of the words if you confuse doubt with Stubbornness

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Lmfao @ him calling you "stubborn to a fault." That might be the most stunning example of a total lack of self awareness I've ever witnessed.

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It isn't a 25 minute video pertaining to his recovery. :rolleyes: It is a 32 minute video talking about the rookies at rookie camp. It is at the 25th minute of the video that they spend a couple of minutes or so talking Thomas and his commitment.

If you don't want to watch it, that's fine. You simply said, "Was she trying to be informing or insightful in someway? Honest question not trying to be a jerk." You questioned the short clip of Brooke so I simply pointed out the part of the video from which the 26 seconds was clipped to better understand the context of the clip. You said it was an honest question. Perhaps I misunderstood and shouldn't have shared the info.

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Fair enough. But This thread is about Michael Thomas. The initial clip you posted that I responded to was only about MT. My comment was only about MT. Your response to my comment only mentioned the uninformed about MT.

It’s at post 65 where you FIRST bring up Rookies and call me stubborn. If you would have said anything about her covering rookies before that in the video it would be different. But you didn’t until then because this was a thread about Thomas. I Can’t see why you needed to insult me because I said the initial clip provided, and anything else she says regarding Thomas (not Rookies) is speculation until he actually plays.

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As you wish.

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Fair enough.

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If Thomas, Olave, Shaheed, Edwards, and Washington are healthy for say…an average 14 out of 17 for each player then I feel very confident in our WR group.

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If Ingram and Williamson are healthy for say…an average 70 out of 82 for each player then I feel very confident in the Pelicans forwards group.

I think AT Perry will play more games than Thomas.

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You could easily be correct.

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Although this is for the Pelicans section, Zion is a walking healthy scratch. He's not a baby and this IS the NBA. I think the fans are a little sick of his mooching. Wasn't his windmill practice dunk enough for all to see at the end of the season?

Can't wait to see Perry and Thomas on the field together.

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Hate is a strong word. I bet me pointing out that Thomas has missed a lot of games over the past three seasons makes me “Saintsphobic” according to Guido.