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AsylumGuido 07-11-2023 01:16 PM

Re: Michael Thomas agrees to restructured contract
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 975884)
I read it was triggered by Saints doctors detecting lymph node swelling during his Saints physical

It was. Amoss is a Saints staff doctor who happens to be affiliated with LSU and specializes in Internal Medicine. He's the same Saints doctor that found the heart problem with Jon Dorenbos, the long snapper and magician, who we were looking at signing.

The ortho docs (handling Thomas' case) were from a totally different practice and affiliated with Oschner. No telling where our eye doctors are from.

Rugby Saint II 07-12-2023 12:16 PM

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What is the over/under for games played by Michael Thomas? I'm thinking nine games would be fantastic to see.

AsylumGuido 07-12-2023 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 975920)
What is the over/under for games played by Michael Thomas? I'm thinking nine games would be fantastic to see.

I see no reason why his should be less than any other WR in the league. Two freak injuries are not chronic. You give me nine game as an over/under and I'll put down money on that for sure.

K Major 07-12-2023 02:11 PM

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Yawn 🥱 …

TC can’t get here soon enough.

CheramieIII 07-12-2023 06:17 PM

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As I’ve said before he better deliver or we can move on!!!

AsylumGuido 07-13-2023 02:07 PM

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Speaking of Cie Grant. He show up in a tweet today.


AsylumGuido 07-14-2023 07:12 PM

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More Cie Grant ...


Rugby Saint II 07-16-2023 01:01 PM

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Michal Thomas has a lot to prove this year. He reworked his contract for less money and has an incentive laden contract this year. He is highly motivated to stay out of the hot tub. If anyone thinks he's not motivated or trying, then maybe they should read his contract details. If he's healthy, he can make good money and set himself up for a healthy contract next year. I doubt that Loomis will commit a lot of money to a third Thomas contract, but we'll see.

BakoSaint 07-16-2023 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 976011)
Michal Thomas has a lot to prove this year. He reworked his contract for less money and has an incentive laden contract this year. He is highly motivated to stay out of the hot tub. If anyone thinks he's not motivated or trying, then maybe they should read his contract details. If he's healthy, he can make good money and set himself up for a healthy contract next year. I doubt that Loomis will commit a lot of money to a third Thomas contract, but we'll see.

I don’t agree with your assumptions. $10 million of Thomas’ 2023 salary is base salary, only 3.8 million is incentives, so ~75% of his money is base no incentives. He took a pay cut but it may be the smallest pay cut in history for a guy who has barely done his job in 4 years and way above market of what anyone would have offered him as a free agent. I think a more accurate way to look at it is that Thomas and his agent took Loomis for a ride like classic loan sharks. The Saints were desperate to get under the cap for 2023 and would sign anything to save $5-10 million on the 2023 cap. Thomas’ contract charges the Saints what is effectively exorbitant interest to borrow a few million toward the 2023. Not only do the Saints pay $10-14 million in new money for a year of a player who has missed 80% of his games the past 3 years, essentially valuing him at $54 million for a year if fully healthy, but the contract also sets up the Saints for a $18 million dead cap hit if they don’t restructure Thomas again and bring him back for 2024. Thomas and his agent know Loomis will be back in 2024 begging for another restructure even if Thomas doesn’t play a down. Loomis is basically like some sort of tennant farmer in debt to the company store and borrowing to make the payments, and if Thomas plays his cards right he has a lunch ticket for life even if he never plays another down.

mapcow 07-19-2023 10:03 AM

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cut bait..... drop the dead weight, and chum the waters for a classier team player.

SaintFanInATLHELL 07-19-2023 11:27 AM

Re: Michael Thomas agrees to restructured contract
 
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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 976065)
cut bait..... drop the dead weight, and chum the waters for a classier team player.

You do know that ship has already sailed off into the sunset months ago right? Continuing to ask for this post after post when it's clear the Saints have decided to do the opposite by negotiating a restructured contract with MT13 for 2023 is pretty counterproductive.

We can revisit what to do after this season. MT13 is a Saint for 2023. All we can hope now is that he is healthy and productive as a member of the 2023 squad.

SFIAH

Rugby Saint II 07-19-2023 05:22 PM

Re: Michael Thomas agrees to restructured contract
 
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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 976069)
You do know that ship has already sailed off into the sunset months ago right? Continuing to ask for this post after post when it's clear the Saints have decided to do the opposite by negotiating a restructured contract with MT13 for 2023 is pretty counterproductive.

We can revisit what to do after this season. MT13 is a Saint for 2023. All we can hope now is that he is healthy and productive as a member of the 2023 squad.

SFIAH

True Dat!:doh:

Crusader 07-25-2023 02:10 AM

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SmashMouth 07-25-2023 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 976131)

https://i.postimg.cc/FKxFxkHp/GCSIwtwq-AMBTq.gif

mapcow 07-25-2023 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 976069)
You do know that ship has already sailed off into the sunset months ago right? Continuing to ask for this post after post when it's clear the Saints have decided to do the opposite by negotiating a restructured contract with MT13 for 2023 is pretty counterproductive.

We can revisit what to do after this season. MT13 is a Saint for 2023. All we can hope now is that he is healthy and productive as a member of the 2023 squad.

SFIAH

....

cut bait... lose the prima donna:smokin:

productive ..... :rofl:

Boston Saint 07-25-2023 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 976184)
....

cut bait... lose the prima donna:smokin:

productive ..... :rofl:

Good point …🧐

Rugby Saint II 07-25-2023 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 976189)
Good point …🧐

The hatred is strong in this one. :lightsabres:

K Major 07-25-2023 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 976131)

https://media0.giphy.com/media/Ki9ZN...giphy.gif&ct=g

SaintFanInATLHELL 07-25-2023 05:34 PM

Re: Michael Thomas agrees to restructured contract
 
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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 976184)
....

cut bait... lose the prima donna:smokin:

productive ..... :rofl:

The wishful thinking is strong in this one.

You may want to ride off into the sunset and come back next offseason. As I said before, there's no way you're going to get what you want. So, why do you torture yourself... and us?

SFIAH

Rugby Saint II 07-26-2023 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 976198)
The wishful thinking is strong in this one.

You may want to ride off into the sunset and come back next offseason. As I said before, there's no way you're going to get what you want. So, why do you torture yourself... and us?

SFIAH

Positive thinking doesn't make me torture myself. Reading negative thoughts like these is depressing though.

SaintFanInATLHELL 07-26-2023 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 976215)
Positive thinking doesn't make me torture myself. Reading negative thoughts like these is depressing though.

My comment wasn't directed towards you Rugs. Mapcow has made it clear that he wants MT13 gone. The Saints had the chance to do exactly that in the offseason, but instead chose to restructure. So, MT13 is on the 2023 Saints Roster.

There's nothing that can done about that now. The decision has been made. But Mapcow continues to post that he wants MT13 gone, even though it isn't going to (and pretty much can't) happen at this point. It's not negative thoughts. It's just reality.

So, I just wonder why Mapcow continues to press for what cannot happen. Seems like torture to me. My best guess is that because he can't get what he wants, that he's going to spend the season antagonizing the rest of us with this BS.

SFIAH

AsylumGuido 07-27-2023 10:07 AM

Re: Michael Thomas agrees to restructured contract
 
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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 976238)
My comment wasn't directed towards you Rugs. Mapcow has made it clear that he wants MT13 gone. The Saints had the chance to do exactly that in the offseason, but instead chose to restructure. So, MT13 is on the 2023 Saints Roster.

There's nothing that can done about that now. The decision has been made. But Mapcow continues to post that he wants MT13 gone, even though it isn't going to (and pretty much can't) happen at this point. It's not negative thoughts. It's just reality.

So, I just wonder why Mapcow continues to press for what cannot happen. Seems like torture to me. My best guess is that because he can't get what he wants, that he's going to spend the season antagonizing the rest of us with this BS.

SFIAH


Simple answer, hater’s gonna hate. Logic does not come into play. The obsession controls what is left of the normally functioning brain.

mapcow 07-28-2023 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 976238)
My comment wasn't directed towards you Rugs. Mapcow has made it clear that he wants MT13 gone. The Saints had the chance to do exactly that in the offseason, but instead chose to restructure. So, MT13 is on the 2023 Saints Roster.

There's nothing that can done about that now. The decision has been made. But Mapcow continues to post that he wants MT13 gone, even though it isn't going to (and pretty much can't) happen at this point. It's not negative thoughts. It's just reality.

So, I just wonder why Mapcow continues to press for what cannot happen. Seems like torture to me. My best guess is that because he can't get what he wants, that he's going to spend the season antagonizing the rest of us with this BS.

SFIAH

No... just pointing out a fact. He's a prima donna, and not needed.:smokin:

mapcow 07-28-2023 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 976251)
Simple answer, hater’s gonna hate. Logic does not come into play. The obsession controls what is left of the normally functioning brain.


No hate here.... just pointing out the fact....deal with it.:smokin:

mapcow 07-28-2023 10:38 AM

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Here's an idea....
Kill the thread, and chill on discussing POSSIBLE :rofl: greatness from the prima donna.

But as long as the prima donna is the topic, i wil tell it like it is. :beatnik:

rezburna 07-28-2023 10:58 AM

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I'd put the over/under for MT around 1,100 for yards and 6 for TD's.

SmashMouth 07-28-2023 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 976283)
I'd put the over/under for MT around 1,100 for yards and 6 for TD's.

If he's healthy, it's the over. :bng:

SaintFanInATLHELL 07-28-2023 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 976280)
No... just pointing out a fact. He's a prima donna, and not needed.:smokin:

Neither of these are facts. They are your opinion. The facts are that the Saints have a different opinion and restructured MT13's contract to keep him on the team.

You are of course welcome to your opinion. But the fact is that he is a Saint for 2023 whether you believe he needs to be here or not.

SFIAH

SaintFanInATLHELL 07-28-2023 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 976282)
Here's an idea....
Kill the thread, and chill on discussing POSSIBLE :rofl: greatness from the prima donna.

But as long as the prima donna is the topic, i wil tell it like it is. :beatnik:

Finally something I can actually agree with. No one really knows how productive MT13 is going to be in 2023. Unfortunately fans are going to project and speculate... because that's what they do.

In my original post I stated I hoped that MT13 would be healthy and productive in 2023. That's not a projection, just wishful thinking. What will happen, no one knows yet.

SFIAH

mapcow 07-28-2023 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 976290)
Neither of these are facts. They are your opinion. The facts are that the Saints have a different opinion and restructured MT13's contract to keep him on the team.

You are of course welcome to your opinion. But the fact is that he is a Saint for 2023 whether you believe he needs to be here or not.

SFIAH

....uh... beg to differ. :beatnik:

mapcow 07-28-2023 02:02 PM

Re: Michael Thomas agrees to restructured contract
 
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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 976290)
Neither of these are facts. They are your opinion. The facts are that the Saints have a different opinion and restructured MT13's contract to keep him on the team.

You are of course welcome to your opinion. But the fact is that he is a Saint for 2023 whether you believe he needs to be here or not.

SFIAH



,,,,, prediction...coming from the prima donna...."man.. my toe hurts. can't play today. probably not for the rest of the season, either." :beatnik:

Rugby Saint II 07-28-2023 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 976317)
,,,,, prediction...coming from the prima donna...."man.. my toe hurts. can't play today. probably not for the rest of the season, either." :beatnik:

Man, you must really love listening to the blues.....

mapcow 07-28-2023 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 976325)
Man, you must really love listening to the blues.....

rock n roll.... brother.... rock n roll :beatnik:

Boston Saint 07-28-2023 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 976327)
rock n roll.... brother.... rock n roll :beatnik:

When I mesh Rock and the Saints I get...


Boston Saint 07-28-2023 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 976317)
,,,,, prediction...coming from the prima donna...."man.. my toe hurts. can't play today. probably not for the rest of the season, either." :beatnik:

He wouldn't do that map...he'd ghost them

dizzle88 07-28-2023 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 976339)
He wouldn't do that map...he'd ghost them

But then be active all over Twitter, posting some cryptic tweets and claiming they are "just song lyrics."

jnormand 07-28-2023 05:33 PM

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Bahahaha!

AsylumGuido 07-30-2023 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 976341)
But then be active all over Twitter, posting some cryptic tweets and claiming they are "just song lyrics."


I don’t think Thomas has ever claimed what he posts most often are just song lyrics. They just are. Mostly hip hop songs. Probably has some relevance that only his friends would understand.

AsylumGuido 08-01-2023 10:04 AM

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From every indication I get from camp reports and watching highlights from the first five days of practice it appears like Thomas is looking just like his elite self. I'm sure this comes as a tremendous disappointment to the cow dude, but I expect the rest of us real fans are excited to see this.

AsylumGuido 08-01-2023 10:17 AM

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