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MVP!

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We should’ve traded him long ago! The sooner the better!!

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That's all fine and dandy. Just make sure your on the field at game time. Working out is great but it doesn't pay the bills. I'm sure that Thomas wants to hit every single incentive.

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"you know him. You love him". This obviously wasn't written for Bako.

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Or mapcow. :D

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It was written for every physical therapist within 100 miles of New Orleans.

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Okay that was hilarious. Lol. I don’t care what side of the fence you’re on. Lmao!

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Arguably some of the best hands in the biz. If it was in his zip code and he could get a finger on it, he generally was money to bring it in... held onto it pretty well in coverage too. Pissed off a lot of DB's around the league.

Just praying that we get to see some of that for a season in '23.
:bng:

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If Thomas can be healthy and effective on all the underneath stuff and we get one of the TEs to really break out (JJ I'm looking at you) then Olave and Shaheed should be able to take the top off.
All of a sudden that opens up loads of posibilities, makes it much harder for defences to try and make us one dimensional. Running lanes should be easier to get by.
I really really hope he is past his injury problems now, our O would be so much better for it.

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We saw exactly that in the first two games last season before the second completely unrelated fluke injury with the three contested TD's. I honestly see no reason why he wouldn't still have those abilities. Even if one would claim his injuries would hamper him in some way, which I don't believe, they would have to know it wouldn't affect his eyes, his hands, and his strength. That's what makes him so great.

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This could easily be the quote of the day. MT could bring things together nicely this year. They will have to double Thomas or Olave which leaves the rest of the WR's, TE's and RB's to do the damage to their defense. Pick your poison!

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Till Mike got the big contract I was a fan. He was intense, loyal, determined...all the things you want in a teammate and team hero. Put up phenomenal numbers and put on phenomenal performances. Then he got paid...and hurt. That's when it felt like he became a Diva. His attitude seemed in a minor way to reflect his uncle (at least to me). Admitting that all facts are not known to me I will not say he faked or exaggerated his injuries but at times it felt like it. These things brought criticism from some.
Now it appears he has found his way back to his old attitude. Maybe he never lost it. Most of us will never know. Mike at his best was truly phenomenal, hopefully we get to see his best of whatever he's got left. Personally optimistic. Show us Mike! Make us Proud!

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Sorry, but I don't get the "diva" crap claimed about Thomas. Name one thing that he ever did or said that could be defined as being a diva. Seriously. Just one thing. Keep in mind that "divas" are defined by a ongoing pattern of publicly drawing attention to themselves and being demanding.

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Guido,

I'm not sure why you continue wasting your breath arguing with folks over this issue. There are subset of Saints fans who will never be satisfied until they see the 2nd coming of Marcus Colston: Just shows up to work, always available to play, consistently produces, and stays completely humble at all times.

Colston's health was generally lucky. And the rest is just the guy personality. And it's clear there are folks that do not like MT13's personality. They don't like brash on social media. They especially dislike everything about the injuries and the handling of them over the last 3 years. They don't like the lack of production. And they don't like the huge, completely in the market, contract that MT13 received.

So, you hear it from the in the terms: "soft" "broken" "diva" "not a team player" "overpaid" "needs to be traded". The list goes on and on and on and on.

Arguing with them isn't going change their minds about this any more than arguing with you is going to change your mind.

MT13 doesn't need to be defended. He's still likely to end up as the best receiver in Saints history. What we all need to hope for is just a little luck and the avoidance of the injury bug.

SFIAH

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I get everything except for the diva part. The guy almost always appears as quiet, respectful, and unassuming in all interviews. 99.9% of his tweets are song lyrics or praising other athletes.

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Over time Mike seems to be disproving the former narrative pretty soundly.

At this point, if you're rooting against him, it's your own personal issue.

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99.9% of his tweets are injury/‘recovery’ updates. I don’t have any big issue with his personality, it is fine. He should be a talk show host, because its hard to reaggrivate some tear of your personality.

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The three things that bother me in order about Thomas are:
1) He reportedly didn’t return calls to the team and ghosted them about his injury status during the offseason. Payton and company were apparently surprised by his condition when they shouldn’t have been. Thomas kept them in the dark to the detriment of the team.

2) He insulted Brees when Brees made a very personal statement about how he felt about his grandparents serving in the military. Very low class IMO.

3) He can’t stay on the field anymore.

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So, does that mean you've developed a sense of personal dislike that you cannot overcome? I think that's what saintsfan1976 may have been referring to in his last post.

1) There's no evidence of any of this. Just blown out of proportion speculation. As our friend Rugs has pointed out on many occasions, he doesn't blame Thomas one bit for trying to rehab the first injury instead of jumping into surgery based upon the track record of the Saints medical corps. Let's not forget that once he did agree to the surgery the doctors botched it and a second surgery was required. Is this a sound reason to dislike Thomas?

2) Thomas and Brees were both man enough to put this misunderstanding between them behind them and maintain their since re-emphasized admiration for one another. One would hope that those not directly involved could do the same. This was a hot, sensitive topic that got many on edge from both sides of the issue. I believe we all need to move on and respect each other.

3) Injuries are and always will be part of the game. I'll guarantee you that the player wants to be out there worse than you want him to be out there. Let's also not forget that we had dozens of other players miss significant time due to injuries over the same period. How can this truly be a reason to dislike the man?

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1) It was more than speculation. It was widely reported and neither he or the organization denied it. At the time Payton specifically said he was surprised and said it set the team back. Dick move to not keep your employer abreast of your status.

2) It was a jerk thing to do or say about a person expressing feelings about their family. I happen to be sitting with my sick 90 year old dad who served in Korea and Inagree 100% with what he said. Thomas publicly saying he doesn’t know better was an insult to many that have military families. Brees can do what he likes. Kinda like Rugby feels about talking bad about someone’s mother, it’s a dick move on Thomas’ part.

3) Sorry if I prefer players that are actually able to be on the field rather than players who aren’t. One Trequan Smith is better than 10 Michael Thomases if all MT is doing is eating up salary. You also don’t see him on the sidelines often cheering the team on and helping other players by looking at real-time tape.

If you’ve read and understood my posts on the subject at all you wouldn’t have to ask if I’m pulling against him. But pulling for him is a lot different than kissing his ass and denying he has done things that validly rubbed people the wrong way.

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Has he ever done anything to you personally to warrant this apparent serious dislike, Boston? I'm sorry, but I believe most of us have had others they know personally do or say far worse things and have been able to move on and let it go. In all seriousness, why hold onto this bitterness, especially when it is in no way personal? It really can't be healthy.

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1) I remember the initial reports and the feeling I got. I was pi$$ed. And I found it easy to believe. But as time goes on I ask myself - would a guy who treated his coaches and teammates that way be welcomed back the way MT has been? I doubt it. Which leads me to "feel" like the story was overblown... Again, with the benefit of hindsight.

2) I didn't like ANY of the backlash Brees received. Not just from MT. This is a great example of a conversation to be had NOT on social media but face to face, like men. But that's not many people do today apparently

3) At this point I can only look at the totality of tenure in New Orleans. Came into the league and became a DOMINANT force for several years. A freak injury, compounded by several factors (debatably his fault but also the team has a poor history..) followed by continued communication with Allen and from what we can see, a ton of hard work that all culminates to September 2023. I'm left with one feeling and that is of hope.

We are a better team with Thomas ON the field and MAKING PLAYS than without.

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So what exactly did Thomas say that was so bad?

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First in an interview:

Highlight: @readdanwrite asks @drewbrees what the star NFL quarterback thinks about "players kneeling again when the NFL season starts."

@drewbrees: “I will never agree with anybody disrespecting the flag of the United States of America or our country.”

Not long after that clip started making the rounds on Twitter, Saints receiver Michael Thomas fired off two tweets that seemed to be aimed at his quarterback.

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Exactly. I wanted to know from that other poster what did Thomas say that was so wrong. I mean, it seems like that whole movement was perverted by those who don't agree with it into something that it wasn't. It wasn't anti military. I did 13 years in the USAF and I found nothing wrong with anything from that time, as did many vets that I know. It's kinda like what the far right has done with the term "woke". Taken something that was originally aimed at keeping aware of police brutality and turning into any number of non related topics.

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Thank you for your service and your input. When all this was going on I mentioned that my late father, a 30 year USAF veteran (served two tours of duty in the Viet Nam "conflict"), would have been in support of those athletes. I was lambasted by some that said there's no way he'd feel that way and no real veteran would feel that way. I think I know my late father better than them. ;)

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Well, I know plenty of veterans that feel the same way. It’s a shame that wanting equality can be so divisive in this day and age. Here’s to a great season of Saints football!

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The problem I have with how Michael Thomas is that he should have talked with his friend in private before raking him over the coals. This topic is personal to Drew and Thomas did not show him any respect when he called him out. It was actually, deeply disrespectful.

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Did you read above what he said? What part of that was "raking him over the coals", Rugs? Thomas only made two comments in reference to the whole thing.

"He don’t know no better." <--- That's telling others that he believed Brees didn't understand the issue. That's actually defending Brees who had already received flack from others by that time including Malcolm Jenkins.

"We don’t care if you don’t agree and whoever else how about that." <--- This was not directed at Brees directly but at others who had commented on the subject. The lack of correct punctuation makes it hard to understand. To make it more clear, "We don’t care if you don’t agree, and whoever else (doesn't agree). How about that?"

To the best of my knowledge that's all that Thomas ever said that could be tied to Brees' interview answer. This was so blown out of proportion. I believe that's what Big_L was trying to point out earlier in this thread. People were blasting Thomas over things they thought he said without ever even knowing what he did, or more precisely didn't say.

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Dreamers and the delusional.....:beatnik:

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Amazing how Guido is always personally involved in conversations between Saints coaches and players alike.

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Exactly where did I ever say or even vaguely imply that I was personally involved in conversations? Brees himself said that he talked with Thomas and Jenkins soon after and cleared the air.

And why does it seem like every other post by you involves trying to ride my ass? Go back and look at your last 100 posts. Can we not just be as adult as Thomas and Brees here? Other than a couple of posters we're all Saints fans.

:bng: